Three Point Line Moving

[MCMLXXX]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2859065

[JesseMartin]

I just keep getting a dead link. Can you summarize it?

[GreenBat]

Updated: May 3, 2007, 10:12 PM ET

Committee extends men's 3-point line to 20-9By Andy Katz

ESPN.com

Twenty years ago, the NCAA made one of the most significant rules changes in its history when it instituted the 3-point shot.

In the year of the 20-year anniversary, the NCAA men's basketball rules committee decided the line needed a makeover.

So, beginning with the 2008-09 season, assuming the measure is approved May 25 by the Playing Rules Oversight Committee, the line will move back a full foot to 20 feet, 9 inches. The committee chose, however, not to expand the size of the lane.

The change could dramatically affect post play, who takes and makes a 3-point shot and at what percentage, and possibly lead to an increase in mid-range shot attempts.

"I'm not surprised, this is something that has been talked about for quite some time," said coach Billy Donovan of Florida, whose two-time defending national champion Gators were ninth in the country in 3-point field goal percentage at 40.9 percent. "I still feel that teams will continue to utilize the 3-point line as a key component of the college game. That being said, I think the next discussion needs to be about widening the lane in conjunction with moving the 3-point line back."

The women's committee decided to keep its line at 19 feet, 9 inches, meaning there will be two distances and, possibly, two different lines on courts that men's and women's programs share.

Larry Keating, who chairs the rules committee and is also an associate athletic director at Kansas, said he didn't foresee the oversight committee rejecting the measure. In the past, he said, rules changes went through the board of directors and got caught up in other legislation. He said that's not the case anymore.

Keating said the lane width won't be changed. So, the line will now be three inches longer than the international line, giving high school players an ability to graduate to an international line, a college line and, perhaps, in some cases, to the NBA line of 23 feet, 9 inches.

For the most part Thursday, reaction to the change was favorable.

"Players are good enough that they will adjust," said BYU coach Dave Rose, whose Cougars ranked fifth nationally in 3-point percentage (41.5). "The purpose was to open up the space on the floor. But I don't think a foot will make that much of a difference. Players will figure it out."

"I think it would be a good change," said Texas A&M sophomore guard Josh Carter, who led the nation in 3-point percentage last season, making 50 percent (86-of-172). "I would have no problem stepping out and shooting a little longer shot. Everybody wants to go on to the NBA and the pros shoot it from farther out, so I think it would be fine."

His new coach, Mark Turgeon, said the distance will help coaches who are preaching shot selection.

"Too many players think they can hit that shot and it was hurting shot selection," Turgeon said. "It was getting to where all five guys were shooting it. Now [the 3-point shot] will go back to being more of a specialty role."

Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim, who is the current president of the National Association of Basketball Coaches, said he was surprised the committee adopted the change without altering the width of the lane.

"I thought you had to do both," Boeheim said. "Moving the line back is good and I wanted that, but I almost thought you had to do both. We've definitely helped the low-post guy. We've created space in there. We'll have to see how it plays out."

Bruce Pearl of Tennessee wasn't in favor of the change. He has one of the top returning 3-point shooters in the country in Chris Lofton, who made 106 3-point field goals and shot 41.9 percent as a junior.

"[2008-09] could be a tough year for the Vols for two reasons: We won't have Chris Lofton and it will be a bit farther for the rest of our guys," Pearl said, adding he believes "if it's not broke, don't fix it."

"I don't know if it's going to open the lane up more," Pearl added. "I think this will make zone defenses much more effective. The matchup zone will make a comeback. Teams that play a lot of zone should be real happy with this."

Charlotte coach Bobby Lutz, who was serving on the committee for the first time, said he plans on marking the new distance on his practice court by the spring of 2008 to ready for individual workouts. Lutz said he is doing that since most of the time lines are put on the courts only one time. The cost of changing the lines on courts across the country is the main reason the distance won't be in place until 2008-09.

Lutz said his players usually shot well beyond the existing 3-point line, so he doesn't see the added foot as a big distraction. But he said players still gravitate toward the line when they take their shots.

"This should allow for more mid-range games and spreading the floor," Lutz said. "It will force coaches to make a decision on defense. It remains to be seen what will happen with 3-point percentages."

Lutz said he wasn't in favor of widening the lane so that the mid-range game could be preserved.

"The criticism was that there was too much jammed-up play," Lutz said of the current configuration on the floor. "That led to physical play."

The rules committee also eliminated the first lane space nearest the basket on each side during free-throw alignment and added two situations in which referees will be allowed to use courtside monitors to determine whether a flagrant foul has occurred. They may also use monitors to determine who may have played a role in a fight.

Andy Katz is a senior writer at ESPN.com.

[UNTLifer]

So, the current line will stay on the court for the women, and a new line will be painted on for the men? Seems this will lead to a lot of confusion.

[greenjoe]

Leave the 3 point line where it is and eliminate the "slam dunk."

[Quoner]

So, the current line will stay on the court for the women, and a new line will be painted on for the men? Seems this will lead to a lot of confusion.

That's why they never have NCAA games in pro arenas. Too many lines.

[UNTFan23]

Leave the 3 point line where it is and eliminate the "slam dunk."

Right, layups are so much fun to watch.

I wish they'd lower the basket for the girls so they'd have a chance to dunk.

[UNTFan23]

That's why they never have NCAA games in pro arenas. Too many lines.

Memphis Tigers and Grizzlies both play in the FedEx Forum. They each have their own floor that they play on however.

[Keith7]

Memphis Tigers and Grizzlies both play in the FedEx Forum. They each have their own floor that they play on however.

don't forget about villanova and Philadelphia too

[Quoner]

Memphis Tigers and Grizzlies both play in the FedEx Forum. They each have their own floor that they play on however.

Sarcasm is a tough thing

[UNTFan23]

Sarcasm is a tough thing

Especially when it is just text, but coming from you I should have known better.

[Quoner]

Especially when it is just text, but coming from you I should have known better.

I know - especially on this particular board it didn't seem like an unreasonable point for someone to try to make.

I kind of like that someone took me seriously for 5 minutes.

[UNTLifer]

That's why they never have NCAA games in pro arenas. Too many lines.

We don't play in a pro arena, and don't have the money for two seperate floors, one for the men and one for the women.

[Quoner]

We don't play in a pro arena, and don't have the money for two seperate floors, one for the men and one for the women.

I guess they need to change the NIT semifinals, preseason NIT, and Big East Conference Tournament then until Madison Square Garden can stop wasting time painting an extra line.

[UNTLifer]

I guess they need to change the NIT semifinals, preseason NIT, and Big East Conference Tournament then until Madison Square Garden can stop wasting time painting an extra line.

"I guess" that Madison Square Garden has the resources, like many other arenas that host both NCAA and pro basketball, to have separate floors. For example, one floor is installed for an NCAA game then pulled up and another installed for the NBA game. Again, this is not feasible at North Texas where the men and women play on the same floor causing additional lines to be painted on the only court available.

[Keith7]

maybe there should be a asterick by Calvin Watson's 3 point record since the distance was shorter for him then people in the future

Edited May 7, 2007 by Keith7

[KRAM1]

Glad to see the change...let's move it to the NBA 3-point line...eliminate the extra lines on the court...slam dunks are soooooo much more fun to watch. Yep, move the women's out too...equal rights you know...would't want to say that women in sports were any different than the men...oops...there's that Title IX thuing again! Yep, sarcasm reigns supreme!

[KRAM1]

Man, got to watch my typing.....too many typos!

[Quoner]

"I guess" that Madison Square Garden has the resources, like many other arenas that host both NCAA and pro basketball, to have separate floors. For example, one floor is installed for an NCAA game then pulled up and another installed for the NBA game. Again, this is not feasible at North Texas where the men and women play on the same floor causing additional lines to be painted on the only court available.

Something is being lost in translation. Separate floors or not, when they host many, many college games there, they play on a floor with an NBA AND college line painted on. No one freaks out or gets confused. If we carried two sets of lines here, it is not that big a deal.

That is all I meant.

Additional lines = basketball apocalypse!

[Quoner]

TWO - you happy?

[MootPoint]

Keep the 3-point line! The new line should be worth 3.5 points! We can have scores of 99.5 to 99! Yay!

[NT80]

Keep the 3-point line! The new line should be worth 3.5 points! We can have scores of 99.5 to 99! Yay!

I always thought a half-court shot worth 5 points would be good for the game. Anything to give the losing team a chance.

[MCMLXXX]

And if you throw a newspaper through the rim from half court you should win $100.

[GoMeanGreen1999]

I think this is a much needed change to the college game. I applaud it.