K-state To Denton

[NT03]

http://www.cfbpalace.net/index.php?module=...les&tid=122

This site is the most reliable I've ever seen on future schedules over the past few years.

I guess our new stadium will one day be a reality!!!

[NT80]

http://www.cfbpalace.net/index.php?module=...les&tid=122

This site is the most reliable I've ever seen on future schedules over the past few years.

I guess our new stadium will one day be a reality!!!

Nice find. Looks like a 2-1 deal with K-State. Opening a new stadium with K-State would be a nice crowd, although I wish it was the first game of that season.

NationalChamps still shows us hosting Air Force in 2009:

http://nationalchamps.net/NCAA/future_sche...exas_future.htm

Edited March 18, 2007 by NT80

[SouthBendGreen]

Also how cool is that if we go play at Clemson? By my calculation NT will be at the Boise range competing for a BCS Bowl. Does that sound right to you guys?

[shaft]

Also how cool is that if we go play at Clemson? By my calculation NT will be at the Boise range competing for a BCS Bowl. Does that sound right to you guys?

That makes absolutely no sense, Boise doesn't play anyone good.

And I think SMU has already proven the stadium doesn't make the team.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

That makes absolutely no sense, Boise doesn't play anyone good.

And I think SMU has already proven the stadium doesn't make the team.

---A stadium does not make a team BUT a better more modern one and one that is LARGE ENOUGH will allow us to schedule a lot of teams that will not come to Denton or even to the fairly small Ford stadium now because of poor revenues and not enough of their fans can attend. ......and better well known teams mean more revenue and more fan interest. ...We can not compare much to SMU which is a private school that has ONE-THIRD our enrollment and is really disliked by a lot of people near Dallas (not just UNT people). They have fixed it so they do not appeal a lot to the "masses" as most state supported schools can largely because of their attitude to others.

[Green Mean]

New stadiums and facilities doesnt mean jack crap if the product on the field sucks.....in 2009 or 2010 if we still pull out 3-9, 4-8 seasons then it doesnt matter if we play Michigan every year....we still stink. And who says Boise State doesnt play anybody? They play Hawaii, Nevada consistently and beat the tar out of Pac 10 Washington State. They may not play anybody but whoever they play they frankly beat the crap out of them.....oh and last time I checked they won the Fiesta Bowl by beating OU. We need to envy BSU because they've beaten the critics and thats what we ned to strive on. Before criticizing BSU we need to look at their own team and criticize them.

[SouthBendGreen]

That makes absolutely no sense, Boise doesn't play anyone good.

And I think SMU has already proven the stadium doesn't make the team.

You are missing my point, dude. I was being optimistic saying that we will be at the Boise level where we are nationally ranked and getting to a BCS bowl by the time NT plays at Clemson in a few years. It was a grand idea for fun that you didn't get.

BTW, Boise played Oklahoma. they're good.

Edited March 19, 2007 by SouthBendGreen

[runt96]

---A stadium does not make a team BUT a better more modern one and one that is LARGE ENOUGH will allow us to schedule a lot of teams that will not come to Denton or even to the fairly small Ford stadium now because of poor revenues and not enough of their fans can attend. ......and better well known teams mean more revenue and more fan interest. ...We can not compare much to SMU which is a private school that has ONE-THIRD our enrollment and is really disliked by a lot of people near Dallas (not just UNT people). They have fixed it so they do not appeal a lot to the "masses" as most state supported schools can largely because of their attitude to others.

you got it, we need the larger stadium to get the KSU, OSU, TXTchs to come to denton.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

That makes absolutely no sense, Boise doesn't play anyone good.

And I think SMU has already proven the stadium doesn't make the team.

It doesn't make sense, but for reasons other than Boise State doesn't play anyone good. The reason it doesn't makes sense is that Boise State's upperclassmen came to the program when the WAC still had no barrier to signing non-qualifiers, whereas every other conference did. Some conferences had complete bans, others limited schools to signing one or two. Until recently, WAC schools could sign as many as they wanted, no limits.

Therefore, until a couple of seasons ago, if a top Division I-A prospect out West did not qualify for a Pac-10 program, he could simply go to a regional WAC school without having to lose any eligibility. The vast number of California players on Boise State's roster had nothing to do with them loving potatoes - it had to do with being able to play and to do so immediately.

The myth of Boise State is played out in the coaching careers of Dirk Koetter and Dan Hawkins. Both won tons of games for the Broncos and were hailed as master recruiters, program builders, etc. The myths were busted once they began coaching in conferences with non-qualifier rules. Koetter did nothing in six years at Arizona State and was eventually sacked. Hawkins took a Colorado program which had competed for conference titles in four of the previous five seasons and turned them into a 2-10 doormat who lost at home to Montana State, a run-of-the-mill Division I-AA program.

The process that temporarily "made" Boise State and Fresno State has never been in place in the Sun Belt Conference. Therefore, if a top national prospect from Texas did not qaulify, he could not simply drop down to another school in another regional Division I-A conference without non-qualifier rules. He had to go the junior college route, usually ending up at NEO A&M in Oklahoma or one of the Texas or Kansas JUCOs. We saw this with a linebacker during this recruiting period.

Further, the process that made Boise State and Fresno State has been gone for a couple of seasons now. The effect is already being seen at Fresno State. Boise State loses most those non-qualified seniors that led them to the Fiesta Bowl. Their program will fade back to run-of-the-mill just as Fresno State's has.

Finally, college athletic directors have taken notice of the Dirk Koetter and Dan Hawkins fiascos. Thus, it is no surprise that Boise State head coach Chris Peterson received no offer to even interview for other jobs despite taking his team to the Fiesta Bowl and upsetting Oklahoma. There were plenty of good job openings out there. But, the myth is dead. ADs now know that success in the WAC doesn't translate into success in places where far stricter recruiting rules have long been in place.

[Charlie NT 73]

Fake Lonnie-

Good story, I did not know BSU, and FSU were picking up the non qualifiers.

I was wondering why Koetter was not successful at Az State.

[TIgreen01]

It doesn't make sense, but for reasons other than Boise State doesn't play anyone good. The reason it doesn't makes sense is that Boise State's upperclassmen came to the program when the WAC still had no barrier to signing non-qualifiers, whereas every other conference did. Some conferences had complete bans, others limited schools to signing one or two. Until recently, WAC schools could sign as many as they wanted, no limits.

Therefore, until a couple of seasons ago, if a top Division I-A prospect out West did not qualify for a Pac-10 program, he could simply go to a regional WAC school without having to lose any eligibility. The vast number of California players on Boise State's roster had nothing to do with them loving potatoes - it had to do with being able to play and to do so immediately.

The myth of Boise State is played out in the coaching careers of Dirk Koetter and Dan Hawkins. Both won tons of games for the Broncos and were hailed as master recruiters, program builders, etc. The myths were busted once they began coaching in conferences with non-qualifier rules. Koetter did nothing in six years at Arizona State and was eventually sacked. Hawkins took a Colorado program which had competed for conference titles in four of the previous five seasons and turned them into a 2-10 doormat who lost at home to Montana State, a run-of-the-mill Division I-AA program.

The process that temporarily "made" Boise State and Fresno State has never been in place in the Sun Belt Conference. Therefore, if a top national prospect from Texas did not qaulify, he could not simply drop down to another school in another regional Division I-A conference without non-qualifier rules. He had to go the junior college route, usually ending up at NEO A&M in Oklahoma or one of the Texas or Kansas JUCOs. We saw this with a linebacker during this recruiting period.

Further, the process that made Boise State and Fresno State has been gone for a couple of seasons now. The effect is already being seen at Fresno State. Boise State loses most those non-qualified seniors that led them to the Fiesta Bowl. Their program will fade back to run-of-the-mill just as Fresno State's has.

Finally, college athletic directors have taken notice of the Dirk Koetter and Dan Hawkins fiascos. Thus, it is no surprise that Boise State head coach Chris Peterson received no offer to even interview for other jobs despite taking his team to the Fiesta Bowl and upsetting Oklahoma. There were plenty of good job openings out there. But, the myth is dead. ADs now know that success in the WAC doesn't translate into success in places where far stricter recruiting rules have long been in place.

Seems like your sensationalizing this a bit...got some numbers to show what percentage of BSU's 2006 squad were non-qualifiers?