Tight ends, fullbacks and H-backs

[Buford_Julep]

The high school spread offenses that I have seen do not use tight ends, fullbacks or H-backs. I assume that is true with Coach Dodge's offense also.

If the above is true, someone needs to meet with David Collins, Charlie Brown, Bryant Sedle, Victor Gill, Kerona Henderson, Ryan Davenport and perhaps others to discuss their future with the Mean Green. It looks like they will have to convert to another position or transfer.

GMG

Edited December 13, 2006 by Buford_Julep

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Look at what Kragthrope does at Tulsa; he also runs a spread offense. What used to be TEs and FBs are generally spread out, playing in the slots, and close to the line.

Also, in his press conference last night, Dodge said that Southlake basically ran out of only three sets and that UNT was already running far more offensive sets. So, having better TEs/FBs on the roster may be a plus for Dodge; more pieces to work with than he needed at the high school level.

No pure spread team has ever burned up the NCAA. You either score so quickly that your defense never gets to rest (Texas Tech) or you stubbornly leave your QB to be pummeled because you're too married to your system to adjust to quicker opposing defenses (Houston in the early 1990s).

I think Dodge uses the TEs and FBs in a similar way to Kragthorpe at Tulsa.

Edited December 13, 2006 by The Fake Lonnie Finch

[Green Crazy]

Seidle ran a 4.51 last year, he could probably drop 15-20 lbs. and move to receiver.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Look at former Tulsa TE Garrett Mills. Before Kragthorpe arrived, he was basically playing the traditional tight end role. Kragthorpe split him out and he caught a ton of passes. The New Emgland Patriots took him on the fourth round of the draft this year and he made the roster. He's not a huge kid. He goes 225-230, run about a 4.6 40. But, he can catch.

I think Dodge does similar things with our TEs/FBs.

[soonerdon]

Look at former Tulsa TE Garrett Mills.  Before Kragthorpe arrived, he was basically playing the traditional tight end role.  Kragthorpe split him out and he caught a ton of passes.  The New Emgland Patriots took him on the fourth round of the draft this year and he made the roster.  He's not a huge kid.  He goes 225-230, run about a 4.6 40.  But, he can catch.

I think Dodge does similar things with our TEs/FBs.

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Ditto your comments.....I believe Charley will be a great fit with Coach Dodges system...I can see him being a bigger better version of Mills. Charley has great hands and is very fast. I'm too old for skipping ahead in time but I can't wait for August 07

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Ditto your comments.....I believe Charley will be a great fit with Coach Dodges system...I can see him being a bigger better version of Mills. Charley has great hands and is very fast. I'm too old for skipping ahead in time but I can't wait for August 07

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He and Seidle both will benefit. Also, David Collins, the other returning TE who is 6-4, 220 and ran on the 4x100 sprint team in high school. That guy may be the sleeper of the bunch depending on his hands.

[Charlie NT 73]

I suggest that all the arm chair QB's let Coach Dodge evaluate the current players.

Coach Dodge knows talent, and he will use the talent to his best advantage. I see

a wealth of talented players on the team now. ( thank Coach Dickey for geting the

Green Team on the field, as well as many Fres/RS players gaining experience).

Coach Dodge likes to use miss-matches in attacking a defense. Can you see

Colins/Brown/Seidle/Gill, stacked on the line--something like the Saints did to the

Cowboys! Beleive me, Coach Dodge will use all the current players. Coach Dodge

is an inovator on offense, and a inovator with personell.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

It'd be nice to see what Collins does. He played tight end, split end, and defensive end as a prep. With his speed, I hope we split him back out. A 6-4, 220+ pound receiver with speed is a nice thought - like the kid from Hofstra that New Orleans has, Colston.

[island eagle]

Seidle ran a 4.51 last year, he could probably drop 15-20 lbs. and move to receiver.

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Collins runs in the 4.5-4.6 range. He could make a wide-out also.

[Texas Stranger]

SLC runs Twins (about 85 %, probably), Trips and Power (short-yardage) sets. I've seen them use a larger player at one twin slot and motion him inside to lead. There'll be a role for those guys.