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They don't take Vince Young and he beats them today. And makes running through their defense look easy.

They don't take Reggie Bush either. All he's done is make the Cowboys defense look silly.

But hey, Mario is leading the NFL in sacks right? Ohhh, that's too bad...

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The Texans fan base took the largest blow in franchise history this past Sunday- one from which they will not soon recover (think "1993 Oiler loss to Bills" proportions).

This is what happens when you pass on a winner- one that on the radio practically begged the Texans to take him- to keep a loser. I'm glad Vince is proving all the critics wrong. People in Houston are proud of the hometown kid and it showed on Sunday. It was a hard thing to watch. You wish the guy well, but you want your team to win.

The Texans have largely been a stupid organization from the get-go, so I suppose it shouldn't be a surprise to me anymore. I honestly don't know why I am a fan anymore, aside from being from Houston.

5 years and counting, nothing to show for it.

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If the Texans had not been so ridiculously attached to David Carr, they could of traded him for at least two quality defensive guys and had Young to build around at QB. I was an Oiler fan all my life and it's no wonder that I have yet to warm to the Texans. One of the dumbest moves in NFL history from both a personnel and public relations standpoint.

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Young can't play in the NFL.  Bad throwing mechanics.  NFL linebackers are too fast for him.

This is what I actually thought about Vince Young. Especially the fact that he could get killed running the ball with the fast LBs. I did think that Houston should have taken either Matt Leinert or Reggie Bush. Yes, Matt Leinert. They could have traded Carr for a couple of offensive linemen.

Something I realized after seeing the tireless replays of Vince Young running or throwing for winning TDs the past few weeks- Carr came from a decent mid-level, non-BCS program from the MWC in Fresno State. Vince Young came from the a National Championship BCS program in the Texas Longhorns.

Houston really screwed up.

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1 interception and 1 touchdown...rushing.

not sure if you watched the game, but his wide receivers leave much to be desired. One of them dropped a deep, well-thrown ball in the first drive of the game. Not sure if it would have been a TD pass or not, but his supporting cast is pretty lousy, aside from RB.

either way, the guy wins. Better yet, he refuses to lose. Plain and simple. They have now won 6 of their last 8 games. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Titans sneak into the play off picture.

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Name Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Sack YdsL Fum FumL

1. Drew Brees NOR 13 101.2 318 479 66.4 4033 310.2 8.4 25 10 15 88 6 3

Carson Palmer CIN 13 98.7 269 414 65.0 3399 261.5 8.2 24 11 30 187 10 6

Damon Huard KAN 9 97.6 146 241 60.6 1824 202.7 7.6 11 1 16 106 9 5

Tony Romo DAL 13 96.6 161 247 65.2 2162 166.3 8.8 14 9 11 66 3 1

Philip Rivers SDG 13 96.3 247 383 64.5 2879 221.5 7.5 18 6 23 119 7 2

Peyton Manning IND 13 95.9 290 457 63.5 3628 279.1 7.9 22 9 13 86 2 1

Donovan McNabb PHI 10 95.5 180 316 57.0 2647 264.7 8.4 18 6 21 140 3 2

Marc Bulger STL 12 90.2 281 443 63.4 3172 264.3 7.2 16 7 41 302 4 3

David Carr HOU 13 87.5 261 376 69.4 2391 183.9 6.4 10 7 36 203 14 7

Mark Brunell WAS 9 86.5 162 260 62.3 1789 198.8 6.9 8 4 12 92 5 1

Tom Brady NWE 13 84.9 260 430 60.5 2946 226.6 6.9 20 12 23 159 12 4

J.P. Losman BUF 13 84.8 216 342 63.2 2348 180.6 6.9 14 10 38 280 12 6

Steve McNair BAL 13 83.1 251 398 63.1 2578 198.3 6.5 13 9 14 84 7 1

Matt Hasselbeck SEA 9 81.6 156 268 58.2 1817 201.9 6.8 16 11 24 187 3 2

Eli Manning NYG 13 80.3 252 431 58.5 2787 214.4 6.5 22 15 21 152 9 2

Chad Pennington NYJ 13 79.6 248 387 64.1 2619 201.5 6.8 14 15 25 140 5 3

Jake Delhomme CAR 12 79.4 240 404 59.4 2598 216.5 6.4 15 11 22 167 6 4

Byron Leftwich JAC 6 79.0 108 183 59.0 1159 193.2 6.3 7 5 9 48 2 0

Brett Favre GNB 13 78.0 276 484 57.0 3141 241.6 6.5 17 12 17 103 7 5

Jon Kitna DET 13 77.3 301 483 62.3 3484 268.0 7.2 14 19 49 285 9 7

Ben Roethlisberger PIT 12 74.9 236 393 60.1 2952 246.0 7.5 15 20 37 236 5 2

Alex Smith SFO 13 74.0 208 356 58.4 2344 180.3 6.6 13 14 27 163 7 4

Matt Leinart ARI 10 73.9 185 329 56.2 2171 217.1 6.6 10 10 17 130 6 2

Michael Vick ATL 13 73.6 171 330 51.8 2047 157.5 6.2 15 10 35 238 9 3

Joey Harrington MIA 9 72.9 211 356 59.3 2174 241.6 6.1 12 13 13 99 3 1

Charlie Frye CLE 12 72.0 227 358 63.4 2267 188.9 6.3 10 16 43 254 7 6

Rex Grossman CHI 12 72.0 198 365 54.2 2424 202.0 6.6 18 17 14 100 6 4

Brad Johnson MIN 13 71.0 259 421 61.5 2642 203.2 6.3 8 15 26 172 9 4

Jake Plummer DEN 13 70.5 175 315 55.6 1994 153.4 6.3 11 12 17 108 7 2

Bruce Gradkowski TAM 12 66.3 172 317 54.3 1624 135.3 5.1 9 9 23 141 10 6

31. Vince Young TEN 12 65.7 QBRating 148 286 51.7 Comp% 1704 142.0 6.0 10 11 TD-INT 16 79 7 2Fum-Lost

Last updated through games completed on Dec 10, 2006

Yeah, who wouldn't want the 31st best QB in the NFL leading the way?

BTW, Young and Vick are last and next to last in completion percentage and yards per attempt. They run around sometimes, which excites some people. But, at the end of the day, neither of their teams is competitive, nor will they be unless they get Chicago Bear-like defenses to cover for their perpetual hit-and-miss play on offense.

Edited by The Fake Lonnie Finch
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Yeah, who wouldn't want the 31st best QB in the NFL leading the way?

I would, if he's led my team to 6-7--as a rookie. Maybe you'd be more pleased with Leinart's 4-9? He doesn't run around as much, but he is rated higher. I'm sure Cardinals fans can take that as consolation. tongue.gif

They run around sometimes, which excites some people.

It excites most people when players make plays to win ballgames for their teams.

David Carr and his team couldn't make plays to win the game.

But thank goodness he is ranked 9th on your list. rolleyes.gif

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I would, if he's led my team to 6-7--as a rookie.  Maybe you'd be more pleased with Leinart's 4-9?  He doesn't run around as much, but he is rated higher.  I'm sure Cardinals fans can take that as consolation.  tongue.gif 

It excites most people when players make plays to win ballgames for their teams. 

David Carr and his team couldn't make plays to win the game. 

But thank goodness he is ranked 9th on your list.  rolleyes.gif

I believe somebody made mention of Vince Young's supporting cast. Let's not pretend for a second that David Carr has a supporting cast either. He wasn't the most sacked QB in the NFL because his offensive line gave him all kinds of time to throw.

The Texans screwed up in not taking Vince Young or Reggie Bush, no doubt. On both counts it was because these two players are adept and making people miss. Let's not pretend that Young is anything more than a running back who takes all of the snaps...and a running back who gets to wait until his wideouts take half the defense downfield before he decides to run.

Edited by emmitt01
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Let's not pretend that Young is anything more than a running back who takes all of the snaps...and a running back who gets to wait until his wideouts take half the defense downfield before he decides to throw.

I agree with you that VY is a running back who can throw, but so what?

He does what it takes to win games. Style points are for ice skaters.

I couldn't care less how he does it, and I don't know any Titans fans who do, either. wink.gif

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