DRC: Russ Goodall's Take

UNTLifer · November 10, 2006

He says DD is one of the most likeable coaches in D1. Too bad he didn't show this personality to the fans, alumni, etc... and chose to bad-mouth everything about NT.

EagleD · November 10, 2006

In the what-have-you-done-for-me-lately world of football coaches, four conference titles from 2001-04 were not enough to override two losing seasons since.

It's not that he had two losing seasons. It's that he only won 2 games last year and may very well only win two games this year. I could stomach a couple of losing seasons, but two back to back miserable seasons is unacceptable.

I like Dickey, but it was time.

GO MEAN GREEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Travis · November 10, 2006

It isn't just the past two seasons... it is that after nine seasons he really did very little worthwhile here. Nothing that was recognized all that much on the national scene. If you view everything in context like winning 4 championships in the crappiest league that really should be a D-1AA during those years and doing NOTHING outside of that to teams we should have/could have beaten, then you see what he really was.

You want your job? how 'bout you win some games.

OldTimer · November 10, 2006

It's not that he had two losing seasons. It's that he only won 2 games last year and may very well only win two games this year. I could stomach a couple of losing seasons, but two back to back miserable seasons is unacceptable.
I like Dickey, but it was time.
GO MEAN GREEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DD's record at NT 1998 3-8

1999 2-9

2000 3-8

2001 5-7

2002 8-5

2003 9-4

2004 7-5

2005 2-9

2006 2-7

41 wins 62 losses

He had only 3 winning seasons out of 9 years

His personal public (national TV) ranting against NT, his working conditions, the fans for 9 years was a major part of his termination.

Edited November 10, 2006 by OldTimer

greenjoe · November 10, 2006

Goodall says Dickey will "land on his feet (head ?) coaching somewhere.

Ya think ?

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GoMeanGreen1999 · November 11, 2006

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He says DD is one of the most likeable coaches in D1. Too bad he didn't show this personality to the fans, alumni, etc... and chose to bad-mouth everything about NT.
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It is so funny to hear these guys. DD was so fun, personably, good coach, ect, ect, ect, yet in 9 years he was never seriously considered for any other D1 program.

Bryan316 · November 11, 2006

DD's record at NT
1998 3-8
1999 2-9
2000 3-8
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See, I love how no one seems to remember these! I mean, all he's done is go back to where he was before RV lit a torch under his ass the first time.

PlummMeanGreen · November 11, 2006

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He says DD is one of the most likeable coaches in D1. Too bad he didn't show this personality to the fans, alumni, etc... and chose to bad-mouth everything about NT.
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I heard one rumor that DD bought the old Milton-Bradley edition of "Candyland" for all the DRC sports staff several Christmas seasons ago; that is, all those from the DRC who covered the Mean Green. Seems they've been writing nothing but "sweet" stuff ever since.

Come on, folks, DD is probably a very nice guy that got placed into an impossible situation for a man who merely had the talents that had made him a journeyman assistant football coach (which I think I posted that theme a very long time ago when some of of our elect even thought we might lose him to the Big 10 or Big 12 any minute). You don't get the big job by only beating SBC schools and our next HFC will know that coming in--guaranteed.

We all know how DD felt about us from post-game radio comments over a span of years and he has to know how most feel about him by now. All of us moving upward, onward and forward would probably be best for all (truth be known).

Some of us are hoping that Rick V (with more support and encouragement from our new prez') gets back with DD when all their motors have cooled to tell him coaching the next 3 games is a bit much for a lame duck coach and turn all this over to our assistant head football coach the next 2 weeks following this Saturday's game (which would be DD's last). Probably would not be a very good idea at all for DD to coach another game at Fouts Field, quite frankly.

Many of us would remember how Coach Fry had been fired from SMU one week before his last game as Mustangs coach and SMU did let him coach his (one) last game versus the TCU Horned Frogs at Amon Carter Stadium. It was SMU's last game of the season, though.

I'll never forget seeing film footage on DFW TV sports shows on that Fall Saturday after that game was over with Coach Fry crying which his sun-glasses could not even hide his tears. Coach Fry's SMU players loved him, too. You can't spend all that time together and not feel something for your coach (unless you were in said coach's dog house most of your time on campus).

Fry was 7 & 4 his last year at SMU and it was a Mattress Mac-type SMU alum who waved his pocket book at the SMU hierarchy to insure Fry would get the axe. Matter of fact, I think if was SMU football letterman Dick Davis (who would later become the A.D. for his alma mater). It might be said college football is sometimes not for the feint of heart with the way things sometimes materialize or come down.

Edited November 11, 2006 by PlummMeanGreen

raygogreen · November 11, 2006

The players had quit on him and that is unacceptable. You can't get that back. That was evident when he played the 3rd team against La. Tech and they outperformed the 1st team. It was time.

Its funny too. I heard "Mattress Man" speak in Houston. Big positive motivation guy. Can't believe he would support someone that could not lead and lost the team.

PlummMeanGreen · November 11, 2006

The players had quit on him and that is unacceptable. You can't get that back. That was evident when he played the 3rd team against La. Tech and they outperformed the 1st team. It was time.
Its funny too. I heard "Mattress Man" speak in Houston. Big positive motivation guy. Can't believe he would support someone that could not lead and lost the team.
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I think most all of our problem with Jim McIngvale is why UNT (his alma mater where he played for Hayden Fry) was never important enough for him until some KSU graduate came to town? So many things just never makes sense with the things that happen to our alma mater and MM's non-support for his alma mater during all those years when we really could have used a Big Donor; in fact, it very well could have been such a person who could have talked our (then) UNT officials to avoid NCAA D1-AA at all costs. MM was not there for us then, and unless he and Rick V have some kind of "Come To Jesus" talk, he is not going to be there for his/our alma mater anytime soon.

I do think most think NT Athletics will survive without MM because......... we did so before DD even arrived in Denton and FWIW...........is there any one alum really ever bigger than his own collegiate alma mater? ANSWER: Not only "NO"...... but HELL NO!

Edited November 11, 2006 by PlummMeanGreen