DRC sports staff on UNT football

PlummMeanGreen · November 4, 2006

REVISED ON GAME DAY WITH COLOR-VISION!

IF SOME OF YOU RAN IN AN ANNUAL 110 METER RACE, WOULD YOU ALSO BE HAPPY COMING IN 4'TH PLACE EVERY YEAR WITH THAT ACCOMPLISHMENT, TOO?
Well, thats exactsly what we are getting with Mean Green football because of the level we're ranked nationally in NCAA D1-A at the end of each football season & pleeezzzzzz, shouldn't we really quit using a rag-tag grouping of schools just out of NCAA 1-AA known as the Sun Belt Conference as our barometer of success as a few of our leaders and coaches seem to have thrived "and survived" in doing which has bought them more time at UNT and kept us in the Bottom 25)?

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UNTLifer, I put in those emails what I've posted on GMG.com but (for darn sure) worded the emails in such a way as a politician would write his constituency who wants to make a point and get a vote.
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I would add that I hope there are many other emails, letters and/or phone calls coming from this board and others because our first step toward our thousand mile journey (and a Top 25 type football program) could very well come from the many of you who post on this board. If anyone chooses not to voice their concerns on this and let others do it for you, then we are probably a sunk ship with 25 more years of mostly an uneventful (& nationally very low ranked D1-A football program) ahead for us while we can just expect just more business as usual in Denton, Texas, America. NOTE: Come on people, just how much longer can we bask in the sunshine about a freakin' near miss win over a very mediocre UT Longhorn football team back in 1988 (and one whose performance against us probably cost David McWilliams his job)?
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So my fellow Americans, if we continually act as though we all adore this annual Bottom 25 co-existance, then this is just what we will have delivered to us and I think if some of you could just put down the green Kool-Aide down for a minute, you would also concur.
YET............if we are at such a level whereas we are having to convince people on GMG.com (and beyond) where having a Top 25, Top 50 or Top 75 type of intercollegiate football program is in our best interest, then we have just as deep of problems with some of our fans as we have with a handful of our football personnel who have had plenty of time to show us what level they will produce for our MG football program.
Others have been posting this of late, too, but why would anyone object to a better (& higher profile) Mean Green football program? What could possibly be their agendas that we just keep getting what we've been getting (that has garnered the respect of no one outside Denton and other SBC outposts).
One NT alum who has given much in the past told me very recently that it would not be our coaches who would (alone) keep MG football barefoot, pregnant and toward the bottom subterranean depths of NCAA D1-A; yet he said that it would probably be way too many of our own alums who have been sitting back and accepting just about anything dished down to us by our top leaders.
A possible problem with some of you is that you've let yourselves get way too close to some of our UNT Athletic staffers which has created a situation whereas you probably cannot see the trees for the forest with all this. So you who I post about will (most likely) never be able to ever have an unbiased opinion on how you would judge the production (or lack thereof) of some of your UNT Athletic Department buddies and confidants.
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Edited November 4, 2006 by PlummMeanGreen

NT03 · November 4, 2006

Exactly...this argument is tired. How could we possibly recruit a young player (i.e quarterback) to run this team? I mean Justin Willis at SMU is a senior right? He's not got their QB situation under control.
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Colt McCoy???

Green Grenade II · November 4, 2006

Revised on Thursday evening
NEW UNBELIEVABLE POSSIBILITIES OF EVEN MORE OF THE UNT UPPER ECHELON LEADERSHIP'S BLATANT ABUSE OF THEIR POWER IN A PARAGRAPH (OR 2) LISTED AT THE HALF WAY POINT OF THIS POST (If you choose to read any of this, then read those paragraphs at the mid-point of this one--it will make your hair stand on end as to what our top leaders are alleged to be up to again
Another Question: Why would any of you of our top UNT leadership want 2 more years of DD Ball and DD Recruiting no matter how this can all be bought and paid for from any potential Big Donor AND I MEAN FOR ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY? A new football stadium at UNT can be had in ways that will show to the rest of the state of Texas that our leaders do have some semblance of scruples and sense of morals as not to sellout to anyone.
All this the latest very strong rumor is saying we will get in MG Country 2 more years of DD Ball and since we all know already what the last 3 years of DD Recruiting has produced, who of you think in light of present trends that 2 more years of DD on the UNT payroll at head football coach is going to do nothing but alienate even more NT Exes many of whom are already distancing themselves away from this sham of a football program that seems to be getting run from our own administration bldg where our UNT Board of Regents many times have their meetings as I undertand it.
Just what is your, that is, you all as our UNT upper echelon group of leaders that makes you think this school cannot live without ol' 9 Lives @ UNT Darrell Dickey who along with his Kansas Konnection has you thinking this man is some kind of freakin' football genius and Goose That Laid Some Kind of Golden Egg?
Top UNT's Leaders: Do yall ever take the time to read the most recent NT Football Media Guide that will show in plain black and white print that DD is far from being any kind of Goose That Laid The Golden Egg (but rather in his case seems to be the one that laid something much less inspiring than an egg?) 15,000 per home game averages the last 9 years indicates this man is NOT The Goose That Laid Any Kind of Golden Egg. His very sarcastic and cutting radio comments thru the years prevented many of the other 15,000 who would be the ones to fill all those 15,000 empty seats most every home game from even caring if DD is a Goose or a Duck as it is anyway!
Yet another question:
Why is it that some think the last 3 recruiting classes are supposed to turn this football program back to where we are the best of the worst even if DD were around another year or two? Come on, people, if we set low goals (which the SBC is just that) we are likely to meet those goals every once in a while but you can forget having any wins over any of the Top 75 D1-A schools because our recruiting under DD will not be able to compete against those OOC schools. We sorta' have proof and trends that justify that, too, now don't we?
To quote El Paso Eagle from another thread:
Why such low expectations with SBC success being nirvana for so many NT fans?
My answer: That's all most of them have ever seen so spoon-feeding that group (from the DD Gang) into thinking SBC success is the ultimate has been a piece of cake during this DD Ball era.
Another Question: Are we going to enjoy the next 2 years under Darrell "ol' 9 Lives at UNT" Dickey?
Answer: Maybe a handful of you who show up at Fouts Field next season might enjoy "your boy" and the excitement that is Dickey Ball.
Another Question: How long before all this low expectation with its results and continued 15,000 per home game averages (and that because of continuous low expectation) causes one of our high ranking offcials, you know, the "book worm'ish" looking one make all his fellow SMU alums most happy with him by his making his own alma mater at University Park 1 of only 2 NCAA D1-A football playing schools in the DFW Metroplex? The other one over here in Fort Worth, of course.
Don't forget, anything is possible at UNT, folks, because we now even have those toward the top trying to resurrect the the most obvious dead-end career (at UNT, at least) of Darrell Dickey at each and every one of our expenses; that is, many of you Young Gun Alums as well as the many of us who have put much time and money into this program long B4 many of you were merely gleams in your daddy's eyes).
Another Key Question: How long will it take Bobby Ray to pack his bags (and all his apparent non-knowledge of what a successful NCAA D1-A football program at the upper echelon even smells like); anyway, how long will it take him to pack his box and boogie off to wherever and whatever he was doing (which was not attending UNT football games) before Texas Governor Rick Perry (indirectly) introduced him to his alma maters football program? Why such a question as that? Well..................how about 'cause to this day, no one I know (and I know many of you on and beyond this board) ever remember seeing him at NTSC, NTSU or UNT games during any of the 1960's, the 1970's, the 1980's or the 1990's and maybe part of the early part of this new milleneum.
Folks, thats a whole bunch of years for someone who did not support his own college alma mater's football team to suddenly be an expert about it and be making major decisions about it that will affect us all long after he and Darrell Dickey will be no where to be seen (like its been with most of our past UNT Board of Regents of which many of you older nestors would substantiate)?
Yet Another Question: How long will the blatant and stark reality of much of the things said in this post be snatched from plain sight (and GMG.com) and put into the "The Truth Really Does Hurt" file for whatever their reason or possible agendas for possibly removing this post? NOTE: Hey administrators, you know I love you all (no, not that kind of love thank you very much) but you know what I mean) :rolleyes but this is all about letting more of our grUNTS be informed about what our UNT Elitist Secret Society, that is, those 1 or 2 who seem to really enjoy keeping Mean Green football low profile, barefoot and pregnant because of who they (most strangley) most always want to keep on the UNT payroll. Anyway, our fellow grUNTS just need to be aware of these who would be running the show at UNT these days, ie, those who I now know from info I received this very week who don't allow some of our hired key personel do their jobs.
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READ THIS LONG PARAGRAPH ADDED TODAY (THURS) IF YOU READ ANYTHING AT ALL IN THIS WAY TOO LONG EPISTLE: This is speculation from things heard from those who are usually not into telling ficttional stories. We all had hints last Spring on some comments mady by Said Big Donor what he would $upport as long as Darrell Dickey was at UNT (and that from an NT football letterman who played for Fry for crissakes). So this pretty accurute speculation could most likely happen at UNT since we know our UNT Chairman of the BOR's early in his tenureship showed a great propensity to want to play "Athletic Director" when we already had one who many had condince in already on the UNT payroll.

BUT...........fellow alums and Mean Green fans, our Kansas Stater has no (apparent) intentions of leaving UNT at all in the head football coaches position, and from hearing from a few of you he now has the same confidence and swagger he had when he knew he could get by with just about anything he did and said with approval from Bobby Ray; how about starting with DD's kicking his employer around at any chance he had as well as getting in some real nice pot shots non-stop aimed toward NT Exes and Mean Green fans and with much sarcasm on those broadcasted post-game shows. All this that DD did for years and (apparently) even as of now has no reason (whatsoever) to worry again because Bobby Ray Is Back In Town doing what Bobby Ray does best.............Meddles With UNT Athletics When We Already Have One Hired To Do The Job, namely Rick V...................and word is from a usually most reliable source that our Napoleon of the North is mixing business with a major Big Donor who will (unashamedly) hold our school hostage for his own personal whims (I call it whoring our school out, quite frankly); and he doing that by dangling a Big Green Carrot in front of Bobby Ray and some key UNT leaders who most of us hope will not jump at to try to take a bite out of that Big Green Carrotts SINCE............with the Big Green Carrott will come stipulations that UNT keep DD in Denton another 2 years no matter what the masses feel about all this. Folks, do head football coaches with multi-years of low profile disguised successes and mediocrity get to stay on the payrolls for very long at UT, TAMU, Texas Tech, SMU, TCU, Baylor, UH, etc, etc, etc, You bet your life they don't.
Another Question: What really is the deal here? Why doesn't said Big Donor just hire Darrell in whatever company he has and give UNT Mean Green football an honest chance to start recruiting players (who would join a hardy handful of some pretty good players (but just not near enough of them) so we can compete against and who knows EVEN BEAT some OOC school in the Top 75 of NCAA D1-A in our lifetimes?
Why would any potential Big Donor for UNT dangle a Big Green Carrott with any kind of personel-related stipulations that (in the case of UNT) would be so damn "counter-produtive (such as what keeping DD on payroll would be after the next few weeks). Unless some of you have forgotten, 2007 football recruiting has been going on for weeks. Do we need another DD Recruiting class in Denton, folks?
YET........................why would ANY donor want to hold their own alma mater hostage by demanding we keep a broken down Studebaker when we can go out and get us a new Chevy? Is the Almight Dollor Bill (no matter what amount and I mean whatever the amount) and bowing down to it and those who would be blessed putting his alma mater in a very awkward position of keeping one of the payroll that is the most unpopular coach (over the amount of years he as ) I've seen in Mean Green Football history. Anyway, why would anyone want to make UNT make some very unpopular decisions over even ONE MAN who will never one time come back to Denton once he is off the payroll?
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People, if we don't start raising hell and asking questions now as to why the top officials at UNT seem to not want to allow our school to function anything like those upper profile schools we'd like to emulate, ie.............
................ all those other upwardly bound NCAA D1-A football programs that spend more of their time in the Top 25 rather than the Bottom 10-15 schools in our division. Nevertheless, if we don't ask those upper echelon UNT leaders who can somehow explain to us and give us some answers to legitimate questions, 1 or 2 on our campus are going to extend even more mediocre time from the fan/school bashing Kansas St. Konnection at UNT for another 2 years................... as that group continues to laugh their heads off at how they can get their way on anything with what they probably see as a bunch of hay-seed bush-league UNT officials; you know, the ones they have hood-winked into accepting 9 years of low expection and disguised success at the NCAA D1-A level?
PS: Any of you who think any UNT official or Board of Regent needs to read most or all of the aforementioned thoughts, you have my full permission to email this to anyone affiliated with UNT. I guarantee you some of them need to know that what they are doing in the dark is getting found out in the daylight among many NT Exes and Mean Green fans. They can run, but they cannot hide from all of us.
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Jim, for god's sake, quit with these long posts and get ready and come to today's game. You belong there, just like I do! We don't like Dickey or Lee Jackson, and Bobby Ray is evil, but the weather is going to be great and I have plenty of tickets. See you there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GoMeanGreen1999 · November 4, 2006

Exactly...this argument is tired. How could we possibly recruit a young player (i.e quarterback) to run this team? I mean Justin Willis at SMU is a senior right? He's not got their QB situation under control.
No freshman or rs freshman make contributions on any other teams in 1A right?
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The reason we can't get a decent QB to come here is pretty simple. If you run a very limited offense, and in the last 9 years the offense of "said" school has ranked below #80 in total offense and you are a QB that can throw, you are NOT going to come to UNT to hand off the ball and hardly ever get to use your talents. Besides with the exception of JQ and a couple of others, you really wouldn't have much to throw it to anyways.