Something to think about

CorinthEagle · November 2, 2006

LOL!!!
Care to share some specifics from these conversations?

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According to my wife it's best if I never approach this subject again.

GBarksdale · November 2, 2006

So if attendance drops to the point where they drop football and give that money to the other sports, will you guys be fine with that?

I'm still pissed that they dropped baseball in favor of girls' softball.

untgirl04 · November 2, 2006

I'm still pissed that they dropped baseball in favor of girls' softball.
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Title IX. They didn't really have a choice. Besides, the DFW area has some excellent players and softball can be just as much fun to watch. Sure, there's no lead-off when running the bases, but other than that, softball can be just as entertaining.

Cowtown · November 2, 2006

I am still pissed at the day they dumped our mens soccer team that annually went to the playoffs.

We had the greatest walk on program I have ever seen. About every metroplex kid that thought they had something and didnt get a ship to SMU, Midwestern or NT, enrolled and tried to walk on.

I think it is idiotic that we cant find a way to bring back the mens program. Hell, put together a womens field hockey team and archery team to ballance it out. With only SMU playing D1 mens soccer in the metroplex we could instantly field a competitive team and get back to having at least one team to root for in the post season.

GMG

GBarksdale · November 2, 2006

Title IX. They didn't really have a choice. Besides, the DFW area has some excellent players and softball can be just as much fun to watch. Sure, there's no lead-off when running the bases, but other than that, softball can be just as entertaining.
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Yeah, but softball just isn't the same for me.

UNTLifer · November 2, 2006

I'm still pissed that they dropped baseball in favor of girls' softball.
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Uh, NT never had baseball to drop. Now if you said they added softball instead of baseball I'm with you, but blame Title IX not the AD.

FirefightnRick · November 3, 2006

In one move around the late 80's we dropped Men's Baseball, Soccer and women's softball and I'm not sure Title IX had anything to do with it?

Rick

VideoEagle · November 3, 2006

In one move around the late 80's we dropped Men's Baseball, Soccer and women's softball and I'm not sure Title IX had anything to do with it?
Rick
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Yes it did. It brought us out of the lawsuit range. Dropping all of those sports dropped the total number of scholerships down to a point that is was not worth the femenists suing. They knew no new sports would be added and they would just get bad publicity for killing existing ones.

At least that was the logic at the time.

Edited November 3, 2006 by VideoEagle

GrandGreen · November 3, 2006

Yes it did. It brought us out of the lawsuit range. Dropping all of those sports dropped the total number of scholerships down to a point that is was not worth the femenists suing. They knew no new sports would be added and they would just get bad publicity for killing existing ones.
At least that was the logic at the time.
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Baseball was started because the Southland conference required it and NT did as little as possible to fulfill the requirement. NT used a whole 1 1/2 ships and dropped it as soon as the Southland conference dropped the requirement at NT's request. Softball may have been the same situation.

CMJ · November 3, 2006

Also dropped the Men's tennis team in the mid 90's because of Title IX. My private instructor was the coach at NT right before it was dropped...and I had designs of walking on. Oh well.

UNTLifer · November 3, 2006

Baseball was started because the Southland conference required it and NT did as little as possible to fulfill the requirement. NT used a whole 1 1/2 ships and dropped it as soon as the Southland conference dropped the requirement at NT's request. Softball may have been the same situation.
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That's why I always thought it was a club sport. 1 1/2 scholarships, now there's committment.

November 4, 2006

I think that the reduced number of sports required of 1-AA had more to do with reducing the number of sports than did Title IX. There really is no way to be Title IX compliant if you have football and basketball.

As stated, the Southland required us to have baseball (but the total number of scholarships was microscopic). Many 1-AA conferences didn't sponsor more than 8-10 sports so we'd have had to play an outlaw schedule in some sports. Besides, dropping sports was a cost-cutting measure. No women's sports were added as I recall.

gksmith · November 4, 2006

Uh, NT never had baseball to drop. Now if you said they added softball instead of baseball I'm with you, but blame Title IX not the AD.
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Last I saw baseball was a "club" sport for NT...not a varsity program. I do not recall baseball ever being a varsity program at UNT.

I could be wrong.

eagle60 · November 4, 2006

It seems they still have the "Teachers College" mentality when it comes to promoting sports across the board. And football appears in almost every newspaper in the country. Wonder how many high school seniors are reading?