UNT holds onto #15 Ranking- Central Reg.

[nortx9]

REGIONAL TOP 15- Central Region As of 10/02

1 Texas A&M 8-3-1

2 Colorado 7-2-2

3 Saint Louis 6-1-2

4 Tennessee 5-3-3

5 Oklahoma State 9-2-1

6 Texas 8-3-1

7 SMU 9-2-1

8 Rice 9-1-1

9 Missouri 8-4

10 Denver 8-2-1

11 Vanderbilt 6-1-5

12 Nebraska 6-3-2

13 Mississippi 6-4-2

14 Kansas 7-4

15 North Texas 8-2-2

Apparently just because of who they may be is keeping us pushed down to #15....Missouri has lost back to back to lowly Baylor and TTech, neither of whom is ranked in Central region. Nebr got beat by Kansas (who is below them here) and is 1-2-1 in conf so far. Kansas started out at 18th, and has somehow leapfrogged UNT even after losing 4 games, last one to Creighton this week who is 6-5 and not ranked in a top 15. And, if Denver is 10, but was ranked second in preseason conf ranking to UNT, even if you make the argument that Grambling tie makes us now a second best in conf, we should still be at 11 if Denver is at 10. MTSU is 10-2, and only losses are to Vandy and Tenn, who are ranked in Central above all of the teams who have beaten those that are above us that have more than 2 losses, and they are not in top 15. Not real sure why Saint Louis is that high either, beat Illini but also lost to Duke so probably a wash there, they have played no one else of substance. Somehow, we should at least have made some climb instead of staying at 15 since beginning of polls. The old UNT hex I guess.....

Edited October 3, 2006 by nortx9

[GrandGreen]

Ratings as always are not overly logical. Without doing any complicated analysis as you have; I wondered why Denver at 11 moved up 1, while NT stayed at 15 when the teams played the same schools last week with almost exactly the same results. Based on that you would have thought the team at 15 would have been the one to move up.

[nortx9]

Ratings as always are not overly logical.  Without doing any complicated analysis as you have; I wondered why Denver at 11 moved up 1, while NT stayed at 15 when the teams played the same schools last week with almost exactly the same results.  Based on that you would have thought the team at 15 would have been the one to move up.

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Especially considering the poorer results of some of the others in the rankings. Hard to figgur fer sure!

[nortx9]

Ratings as always are not overly logical.  Without doing any complicated analysis as you have; I wondered why Denver at 11 moved up 1, while NT stayed at 15 when the teams played the same schools last week with almost exactly the same results.  Based on that you would have thought the team at 15 would have been the one to move up.

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Worse yet, go to www.nscaa.com/encouraging excellence/college rankings, find and check the regional top 10 Central...Denver at 9, SMU at 8, and LSU at 10, who did not even make the Buzz Top 15???? We have tied SMU, and were preseason ranked over Denver. LSU has 4 losses. Looking at our scoring, we are ahead of Denver in national scoring per game......What gives.......

[nortx9]

Worse yet, go to www.nscaa.com/encouraging excellence/college rankings, find and check the regional top 10 Central...Denver at 9, SMU at 8, and LSU at 10, who did not even make the Buzz Top 15????  We have tied SMU, and were preseason ranked over Denver.  LSU has 4 losses.  Looking at our scoring, we are ahead of Denver in national scoring per game......What gives.......

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My bad LSU at 12.....still BS And colorado College lost to Smu and they are still at 11.

[Mad Hatter]

At least we're ranked 15th?

[nortx9]

At least we're ranked 15th?

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True, and a very good ranking, but we are better than that and deserve the recognition. 1) it does carry impact in the soccer community and is good for recruiting, and 2) we may very well be good enough to move up the national ranks later if we are moving up at this juncture of the season in the regional, which would be real good for the university and great for recruuiting. There is some very bizzare thinking on these rankings at this time.

Did a little more on this last night. We were in the top 64 preseason projected NCAA tournament qualifiers, some of these teams ahead of us in todays rankings are not even there either.Seems to me that given our performance to date, UNT would be worthy of a higher regional slot. We certainly have not underplayed our expectation! We are winning, and losses to USC, Nebraska, and tie with SMU certainly should not hurt us based on their rankings at the time and leave us status quo, given the more recent weaker performance of others ahead of us.

Grand Green was right, based on the recent performance against very same 4 teams, we should be at least as good as the Denver ranking. I would think a notch higher, given our preseason rank in conference. Maybe a notch lower if you give the grambling TIE (not a loss) too much weight.

Ok I convinced myself, lets call it UNT at #10....I'm going with that!