OT: DeLay and Skilling Convicted--NM

[LongJim]

nm

[MG 2000]

I thought it was Lay. Delay is the congressman, right?

[LongJim]

I thought it was Lay.  Delay is the congressman, right?

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DOH!! Yeah...!

[Black Scholes]

nm

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Are you sad that they are guilty, and if so why?

what does nm mean?

[EagleMBA]

I'm all about capitalism, Schumpeter economics, and free market competition. But THESE guys went too far! Since I heard the news, I've been humming a song from one of my favorite musicals, "Chicago"..."he had it comin', he had it comin'...".

[LongJim]

Are you sad that they are guilty, and if so why?

what does nm mean?

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No. I hope they spend the rest of their lives in jail.

NM stands for "No Message".

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

---When Lay, Schilling, and Enron went belly-up a lot of folks lost their retirement and their health care. I am not just talking active employees who have years to recover but people who never worked for Enron but had worked for companies acquired by Enron and are now beyond the age of possibly working any more. The Enron execs. were slime and deserve everything they get and more.

---I wonder if they will eventually go after ex-Sen. Phil Gramm's wife, she was on the board of directors and also the audit committee that kept seeing "no problems". Phil withdrew from his re-election and left the state just as soon as Enron scandel hit the fan.

---Next on the list is another crooked Houstonian... DeLay... whose name accidentally appears in the title of this thread.

Edited May 25, 2006 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[GBarksdale]

Look what you started Long Jim!

[LongJim]

Look what you started Long Jim! 

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Hehehe! I do what I can, GB.

Edited May 26, 2006 by LongJim

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

To quote the Administration building at University of Texas:

"Ye Shall Know the Truth and the Truth Shall Make You Free"

Lay didn't tell the truth and now he will not be free.... LOL

[Cowtown]

all should watch "the smartest guys in the room".

it breaks down what they did and how they did it.

They are lucky they are going to jail, if set free I really dont think they would live to see their next birthday. Enron destroyed so many peoples lives.

My favorite trick was when the stock fell to $35 they froze the employies out and wouldnt allow them to sell...until the stock hit $9. Meanwhile Kenny Boy and crew continued to dump their stock for millions.

And one of the wives when interviewed said how they were hit just as hard as everyone else, where they once had over 200 mil, they now only had 20 mil.

GMG

[EagleMBA]

Breaks my f'n heart to hear that, Cowtown. They'll probably be forced to sell the yacht and lay off part of the domestic staff.

[SilverEagle]

all should watch "the smartest guys in the room".

it breaks down what they did and how they did it.

They are lucky they are going to jail, if set free I really dont think they would live to see their next birthday. Enron destroyed so many peoples lives.

My favorite trick was when the stock fell to $35 they froze the employies out and wouldnt allow them to sell...until the stock hit $9. Meanwhile Kenny Boy and crew continued to dump their stock for millions.

And one of the wives when interviewed said how they were hit just as hard as everyone else, where they once had over 200 mil, they now only had 20 mil.

GMG

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Yeah, I could see the ex-employees doing a reinactment of the French Revolution in this case...... and who would blame them?

[Black Scholes]

---I wonder if they will eventually go after ex-Sen. Phil Gramm's wife, she was on the board of directors and also the audit committee that kept seeing "no problems". Phil withdrew from his re-election and left the state just as soon as Enron scandel hit the fan. 

---Next on the list is another crooked Houstonian... DeLay... whose name accidentally appears in the title of this thread.

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Seems 66 is at it again attacking only conservatives . For a quick example of recent corruption that came out just last week, check out these links. For this particular gentlemen, I don't think the justice department will need to shop the charges to several sets of grand juries like Ronnie Earl had to for a Delay indictment. Especially since the FBI, has audio/video of Jefferson accepting bribes and mocking the possiblity of the FBI watching while he accepted 100K from an FBI agent . (Audio / Video not mentioned in article, but surely will be played on TV this September-October for the November election .

Not defending any party, just pointing out bias in a post and a major omission of recent corruption.

Dear Lord, please allow September to get hear a little quicker than normal this year!

Corrupt Politician Example

Selfish

[0footballfan0]

Funny. You turn and look the other way, and you get life. You take a life and serve only 5-10 years. Something doesn't seem right.

[Cowtown]

And just when you think you have seen it all...Hastert is defending Jefferson, not on the crimes he committed but on the process by which he was caught, which apears to be perfectly legal.

I imagine there are a lot of dudes up on the hill that are freaking out at the thought that the DOJ can bust in and root through their stuff.

If they think it is ok for gov. to snoop in our business, then I see no problem with someone looking in on the law makers.

Seems 66 is at it again attacking only conservatives .  For a quick example of recent corruption that came out just last week, check out these links.  For this particular gentlemen, I don't think the justice department will need to shop the charges to several sets of grand juries like Ronnie Earl had to for a Delay indictment.  Especially since the FBI, has audio/video of Jefferson accepting bribes and mocking the possiblity of the FBI watching while he accepted 100K from an FBI agent .  (Audio / Video not mentioned in article, but surely will be played on TV this September-October for the November election .

Not defending any party, just pointing out bias in a post and a major omission of recent corruption.

Dear Lord, please allow September to get hear a little quicker than normal this year! 

Corrupt Politician Example

Selfish

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[Eagle-96]

And just when you think you have seen it all...Hastert is defending Jefferson, not on the crimes he committed but on the process by which he was caught, which apears to be perfectly legal.

I imagine there are a lot of dudes up on the hill that are freaking out at the thought that the DOJ can bust in and root through their stuff.

If they think it is ok for gov. to snoop in our business, then I see no problem with someone looking in on the law makers.

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I don't think Hastert is concerned with the audio/video of Jefferson accepting the bribe. He is concerned with the fact that the DOJ searched the congressional office for addtitional evidence to bolster their case. I don't think the DOJ will need any additional evidence if they have the guy on tape accepting a bribe. There are scumbags in Congress on both sides of the aisle.

[Black Scholes]

And just when you think you have seen it all...Hastert is defending Jefferson, not on the crimes he committed but on the process by which he was caught, which apears to be perfectly legal.

I imagine there are a lot of dudes up on the hill that are freaking out at the thought that the DOJ can bust in and root through their stuff.

If they think it is ok for gov. to snoop in our business, then I see no problem with someone looking in on the law makers.

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This is a great example of the concept of "Absolute power absolutely corrupts".

[Rudy]

Wow, I didn't know that they were involved with NT Football. I guess you learn something new everyday.

Edited May 26, 2006 by Rudy

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

---I did not start this thread about Enron. The only person not mentioned by the originator of was Gramm. His wife was on audit commitee of Enron so she signed off on all this mess. As for Delay his name was in the title of thread.

---As for as the William Jefferson (you brought him up) ---shoot him.. I don't give a frap what party they are in... A crook is a crook. I am about honesty in government and doing what is best for the voters in general, not what is best for themselves or their party.

---Actually I want a balanced budget (a conservative idea) which isn't happening lately. Why do you think I am attacking conservatives?. Interesting that you think I hate conservatives... I hate dishonest people.

Edited May 27, 2006 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[GreenBat]

---Actually I want a balanced budget (a conservative idea) which isn't happening lately.  Why do you think I am attacking conservatives?.  Interesting that you think I hate conservatives... I hate dishonest people.

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AMEN!

[Black Scholes]

---I did not start this thread about Enron. The only person not mentioned by the originator of was Gramm.  His wife was on audit commitee of Enron so she signed off on all this mess.  As for Delay his name was in the title of thread.

---As for as the William Jefferson (you brought him up) ---shoot him.. I don't give a frap what party they are in... A crook is a crook.  I am about honesty in government and doing what is best for the voters in general, not  what is best for themselves or their party.

---Actually I want a balanced budget (a conservative idea) which isn't happening lately. 

I think everyone knows that Delay was mean to be Lay.  You may not have started the thread about Enron, but every chance you get you seem to try turn a thread toward some kind of bash a politician of the republican variety.    I am not defending Gramm!  This is warrantless repetition by you, why keep bringing it up?

Why do you think I am attacking conservatives?. 

The only people you have anything negative to say about are conservatives everytime you post something politically.

Interesting that you think I hate conservatives... I hate dishonest people.

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Check my post, I never said you hated conservatives; I'm just pointing out that you took the liberty to point out political corruption on this board without even mentioning the biggest story about political corruption in the last oh say 72 hours regardless of affiliation. For the record, I don't hate anyone.

GMG!

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

Check my post, I never said you hated conservatives; I'm just pointing out that you took the liberty to point out political corruption on this board without even mentioning the biggest story about political corruption in the last oh say 72 hours regardless of affiliation.    For the record, I don't hate anyone. 

GMG!

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---The topic posted was Enron... I only mentioned Enron people and Delay [of Houston also] who was listed in the topic subject. Why mention anything else?? Besides you have complained about people getting being off subject. Apparentlly you think the names mentioned are conservatives and took offense, I did not call them that or name any political party..

---You would hate Enron and the people who messed it up if you were retired and lost your retirement and health care. I know some in that boat who have. Some are now in serious financial trouble through no fault of their own.

---Your statement: Seems 66 is at it again attacking only conservatives.

To me they just look like crooks that took peoples money and ruined people's future. The other guy you mentioned did not seem to ruin peoples lives although he is apparently another crook, but not part of this Enron topic. Besides he is a two-bit crook compared to the BILLIONS taken at Enron.

Edited May 27, 2006 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66