Patrick Cobbs a victim of 2-9 season.....

[Green Grenade II]

It is really sad to me that Patrick Cobbs, for all he has done during his great career at North Texas, would be a senior on a dismal 2-9 pathetically coached Mean Green team last season.

If there's a reason no NFL teams are contacting Cobbs or Baz, look no further than our head coach and his approach to our opening game at Fouts. Granted we lost by 3-7 points in most SunBelt games, but we got trounced in our out of conference games.

So bad is the SunBelt Conference...not one player was selcted in the NFL draft. Period! My point is, what are the prospects for this fall. I predict we will go 5-7, losing all our out of conference games, and losing a couple of SunBelt games.

That is, however, better than 2-9.

[foutsrouts]

It is really sad to me that Patrick Cobbs, for all he has done during his great career at North Texas, would be a senior on a dismal 2-9 pathetically coached Mean Green team last season.

If there's a reason no NFL teams are contacting Cobbs or Baz, look no further than our head coach and his approach to our opening game at Fouts. Granted we lost by 3-7 points in most SunBelt games, but we got trounced in our out of conference games.

So bad is the SunBelt Conference...not one player was selcted in the NFL draft. Period! My point is, what are the prospects for this fall. I predict we will go 5-7, losing all our out of conference games, and losing a couple of SunBelt games.

That is, however, better than 2-9.

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Not only was not one SBC player selected, but we were the only 1A conference and possibly the only Division 1 (1A & 1AA) conference without a player selected. Most 1AA conferences seemed to have a player selected. I do differ on the outlook for next year. If we can get the right QB in there, I think that the offense will be MUCH improved, and I also believe that the D will show much greater "stopping ability" with the 3-4 and the extra year of overall experience. We shall see in four months!

[MeanMag]

Not only was not one SBC player selected, but we were the only 1A conference and possibly the only Division 1 (1A & 1AA)  conference without a player selected. Most 1AA conferences seemed to have a player selected. I do differ on the outlook for next year. If we can get the right QB in there, I think that the offense will be MUCH improved, and I also believe that the D will show much greater "stopping ability" with the 3-4 and the extra year of overall experience. We shall see in four months!

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I also beleive Dickey can't stand to have another season like last years..

[TicketJohn]

If there's a reason no NFL teams are contacting Cobbs or Baz, look no further than our head coach and his approach to our opening game at Fouts. Granted we lost by 3-7 points in most SunBelt games, but we got trounced in our out of conference games.

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I think that has zero to do with it. If NFL scouts are going to draft someone in the later rounds or pick up somebody in free agency, they don't look at what their team did vs. Tulsa at home in September. I think his 40 time at the workout at Fouts, his injury problems and size would be what might keep people away.

I think he'll still get picked up and be on someone's official rookie camp roster by Thursday, but it won't be "in spite" of Darrell Dickey's approach to games. I'm sorry, but that's just absurd and completely unrelated.

[BIG DAWG]

I think his 40 time at the workout at Fouts, his injury problems and size would be what might keep people away.

Add th above quote and the fact that he is smallish for the NFL, you then have the reasons he didn't get drafted.

Dickey's coaching are what got him on the map by runnig the ball so damned much. How the hell do you think he elad the league in rushing. He did it by being allowed to carry the ball 35-40 times a game.

I am tired on everything bad being blamed on Dickey

He is probably also to blame for high gas prices

[SilverEagle]

Add th above quote and the fact that he is smallish for the NFL, you then have the reasons he didn't get drafted.

Dickey's coaching are what got him on the map by runnig the ball so damned much.  How the hell do you think he elad the league in rushing.  He did it by being allowed to carry the ball 35-40 times a game.

I am tired on everything bad being blamed on Dickey

He is probably also to blame for high gas prices

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I guess Reggie Bush must have a fantastic 40 time, because at 6' X200 lbs he isn't much bigger than Cobbs (5'8" X 205). Bush was also injured during his college career. And so was the RB from Memphis.

Edited May 2, 2006 by SilverEagle

[the green rokemi]

He is probably also to blame for high gas prices

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I knew it! It all makes sense now...

[bigrobdsp]

I am tired on everything bad being blamed on Dickey

He is probably also to blame for high gas prices

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if he didnt run the ball so damn much our players legs wouldnt be tired and they wouldnt have to drive to class thus causing... I may be streaching here.

[PlummMeanGreen]

Hasn't it been said that a free agent contract can be as good or better than the contracts of those who get drafted in the last round of the NFL draft?

Sir Patrick Cobbs deserves a shot in the NFL and I think he will get it. No one deserves to have success than the great Patrick Cobbs. And as an honors student, I sure as hell bet he scored much higher than a 5 on the Wonderlic, too! )(Sorry, LongJim, I had to slip that one in).

Edited May 2, 2006 by PlummMeanGreen

[TicketJohn]

Dickey's coaching are what got him on the map by runnig the ball so damned much.  How the hell do you think he elad the league in rushing.  He did it by being allowed to carry the ball 35-40 times a game.

I am tired on everything bad being blamed on Dickey

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Preach on brother!

[medpilot21]

I think that has zero to do with it.  If NFL scouts are going to draft someone in the later rounds or pick up somebody in free agency, they don't look at what their team did vs. Tulsa at home in September.  I think his 40 time at the workout at Fouts, his injury problems and size would be what might keep people away.

I think he'll still get picked up and be on someone's official rookie camp roster by Thursday, but it won't be "in spite" of Darrell Dickey's approach to games.  I'm sorry, but that's just absurd and completely unrelated.

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Thank you!!! There are many of us that get it...a few still do not.

No worries, GG... I'm sure Coach Dickey, at this very moment is thinking.. "I cost Patrick Cobbs his shot at the NFL by playing him too much, slowing his Pro-day workout, and shrinking him three inches... how will I face GreenGrenade???"

GMG!!!

[LoveMG]

Thank you!!! There are many of us that get it...a few still do not.

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overlook a 7-38 ooc record and be impressed?

[IslandEagle]

overlook a 7-38 ooc record and be impressed? 

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Patrick Cobbs showings at pre-draft workouts hurt him more than anything. Pro teams could give diddly squat about a college team's record. They've never hestitated to draft players off losing teams if they really thought they could make it in the pros. In fact, some of the past year Sun Belt draftees came off of teams with lousy records.

[Eagle1855]

News flash, Vanderbilt was a loser team this year as well! In fact they lost to OTHER losers, in Kentucky, MTSU, and Tennessee. And yet the Broncos traded up to grab him because he had a great workout and great combine results.

The lack of interest in PC has nothing to do with our loser record. it has everything to do with his poor work out coupled with the fact that most all of his success was against the cellar-dwellers in the Sun Belt

[Travis]

News flash, Vanderbilt was a loser team this year as well! In fact they lost to OTHER losers, in Kentucky, MTSU, and Tennessee. And yet the Broncos traded up to grab him because he had a great workout and great combine results.

The lack of interest in PC has nothing to do with our loser record. it has everything to do with his poor work out coupled with the fact that most all of his success was against the cellar-dwellers in the Sun Belt

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Your right... but, i still think it is funny that not a one sunbelt team had a player drafted.

[MeanGreenPOP]

It's very tough to get drafted with only 7 rounds and a little over 200 players taken. I think I read in the Sporting News were another 200 or so will sign free agent contracts and make a go of it. I know PC was told by several teams to call them if he didn't get drafted. Still it seems pretty strange that no one from the Sun Belch got drafted. I know there had to be a couple of Sr's that deserved to get picked. I know OSU (Stilwater) had a couple of good linemen and they didn't get selected so they have hired agents and are going to give it a try possibly going to NFL Europe.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

---The 2-9 record absolutely hurt him. His size hurt him as well and because of the two items he wasn't invided to the combine. Then when he tried to overcome that later, he failed to help his cause with a poor 40 time for running backs.

---The UCLA back may have been smaller, may not be as good even, but his 40 time was stated when he was drafted and it was outstanding.

---Offensive lines really matter to a team and to the performance of a RB... They can make or break a RB. Our O-line was rather poor last year and our backs did not do as well as they had done the previous two years....with the same RBs. I know this is not the place to argue this, but to me it explains a lot of why Houston did not draft Bush first. With a bad O-line Bush will/would not look as great as he did at USC, and Houston has had a poor offensive line. It also may explain why Cobbs was ignored to start with.

Edited May 2, 2006 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

It's very tough to get drafted with only 7 rounds and a little over 200 players taken.  I think I read in the Sporting News were another 200 or so will sign free agent contracts and make a go of it.  I know PC was told by several teams to call them if he didn't get drafted.  Still it seems pretty strange that no one from the Sun Belch got drafted.  I know there had to be a couple of Sr's that deserved to get picked.  I know OSU (Stilwater) had a couple of good linemen and they didn't get selected so they have hired agents and are going to give it a try possibly going to NFL Europe.

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---Ever drafted in a fantasy league??? Teams may have realized that no Sun-Belt players were being drafted and think they can sign those after the draft..... They took players in positions and locations that may be drafted by others. There were not so many RBs taken either... They may have decided that there was a large pool of them and could always find some after the draft since there would be a lot available especially if they thought there was little difference in them.... Drafting is an odd science... They draft to ability, team needs, and even get those who are far better than what else is available at that position at that time......I am also amazed the TxTech RB is undrafted, he is a decent RB but his strength is catching the ball out of the backfield..... ie an outstanding 3rd down guy.

Edited May 2, 2006 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[NT80]

Your right... but, i still think it is funny that not a one sunbelt team had a player drafted.

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A pitiful showing (again) from the SBC. The NFL thinks the WAC and MAC are better, maybe they're right.

NFL Draft by Conference; from the DMN:

ACC = 51

Big10 = 41

SEC = 37

PAC10 = 32

Big12 = 29

MWC = 12

Big East = 11

CUSA = 7

MAC = 6

WAC = 5

A-10 = 3

Indep. = 3

Southland = 2

SWAC = 2

Big Sky = 2

Great West = 2

Mid-Am. = 2

Gateway = 1

Ivy = 1

Lone Star = 1

Mid-Eastern = 1

Nor Central = 1

Ohio Val. = 1

Penn St. Ath. = 1

Southern = 1

SUNBELT = 0

Edited May 2, 2006 by NT80

[LoveMG]

Patrick Cobbs showings at pre-draft workouts hurt him more than anything. Pro teams could give diddly squat about a college team's record. They've never hestitated to draft players off losing teams if they really thought they could make it in the pros. In fact, some of the past year Sun Belt draftees came off of teams with lousy records.

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the ooc record was in reference to the dickey is god follower, not about cobbs

[class84]

I am also amazed the TxTech RB is undrafted, he is a decent RB but his strength is catching the ball out of the backfield..... ie an outstanding 3rd down guy.

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[Guest GrayEagleOne]

I am certainly at a loss to explain why Patrick Cobbs wasn't drafted.

It wasn't size. Six of the 14 running backs drafted are within an inch of his height and most are within a few pounds of his weight. Five are actually lighter.

It could be speed but as I understand it Patrick did a 'do over' and got his 40 times down into the 4.5s when he didn't have to run against a 20-25 mph headwind.

It certainly can't be statistics. I'd be surprised if anyone drafted had more career rushing yards than Patrick Cobbs. I've seen few with better vision than Cobbs and the film of his running style should speak in his behalf. I don;t know that I can recall a national rushing leader that went undrafted.

The only thing that makes much sense is the level of competition. The overall record shouldn't be a factor but the amount of yards agaist quality competition would. That's unfair too, especially if his line can't open holes for him. It also might explain why NO ONe from the Sun Belt was drafted. When five 1-AA conferences have two draftees each and five more have one vs. our zero, it may say more than we care to hear.

I am still of the opinion that Patrick Cobbs is a premier running back and will succeed in the NFL if given a chance. I am concerned that at least six other undrafted running backs from lesser conferences have now signed contracts and we still don't know if Cobbs has even been offered. Let us all hope that his is just mulling over the offers and will make a decision soon.

[megagreen]

-Cobbs should get a chance with somebody.

-Taurean Henderson is as quick as lightning and I was also suprised that he was not drafted.

-The Texans offensive line was actually a fair run blocking unit. They just couldn't pass protect. If Domanick Davis can rush for 1000 yards behind that line, I'm sure Bush could.

That is all.

GMG!

[FirefightnRick]

I dismiss the quality of competition factor. If quality of competition factored in then the Sunbelt wouldn't have had one of it's players taken as the 11th overall pick in the '05 draft in Demarcus Ware of Troy.

Rick

[Guest e-bone]

I guess Reggie Bush must have a fantastic 40 time, because at 6' X200 lbs he isn't much bigger than Cobbs (5'8" X 205).  Bush was also injured during his college career. And so was the RB from Memphis.

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Actually he did have a fantastic 40 time. But other than that, did you see him play last year?