To Bobby Ray: You're Boy Dickey Is Splitting the

MeanGreenEngineer · November 29, 2005

Yup, I planned it out, stayed up until 3 am writing it, and went for a homerun. I tried my hardest
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PS: I know you are new here,
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but believe it or not, there are people on this board who are connected to the scene and can be trusted.
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I agree. I just don't think people should fall into that group just because they have been around for 100 years.

yet has anyone ever challenged something that was discussed before you got here?
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But That's the Way We've Always Done It. Excellent argument.

Eagle1855 · November 29, 2005

On a positive note... Atleast we aren't Rice.
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Yeah a degree from there is virtually useless. So is a college world series.

flyonthewall · November 29, 2005

Using this stepping stone theory, after winning 2 straight championships, then winning a bowl game no one hired DD. After winning 3 straight championships, having a national rushing champ, and losing to Memphis, no one hired Darrel. Then after losing your rushing champ, you found another rushing champ in a true freshman, and a fourth straight conf. championship, no one hired Darrel or on of the "great young offensive minds in the country" Ramon Flanigan. If we didn't have a coach right now would either one of these guys be first on the list?

I say no. I say Ramon wasn't good enough for Tennessee State last year. They are not good enough for us now.

PlummMeanGreen · November 29, 2005

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I agree. I just don't think people should fall into that group just because they have been around for 100 years.
But That's the Way We've Always Done It. Excellent argument.
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Glad yall are having some fun here, guys, but if you really want to see how far this has fallen at UNT, just get one of your NT football media guides and check out the 1975 football season as far as the schools on that schedule and some of the results during that year (and other years in that era); then you will see why some of us older NT fart-knockers are just not happy with what we are seeing and what we are being told even now by the Napoleon of the North what we will continue seeing. You All Like That?

BGT!

Michael Scott · November 29, 2005

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I agree. I just don't think people should fall into that group just because they have been around for 100 years.
But That's the Way We've Always Done It. Excellent argument.
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I lurked on this board for years actually - I just never committed to anything for awhile. How can you stay away from this much unintentional comedy all at once - logogate alone was enough pants peeing material for 2 years - then this football season to top it off - thats all entertaining until you realize its your own freakin' school. You showed up to start defending DD on a wave with about 10 other people - maybe you lurked too, I don't know and don't care. I really do not want a pissing match with you - what will that resolve? I'm all about debating with you, but I do not want to start some lame rivalry over the safety of a computer. My original post was from the frustration of thinking we may just seem the same 5 posts repeated in different forms for the next 9 months or so.

Plumm is about 55 or so according to his bio - doesn't really qualify as senile or crazy or even super old to me. Why dismiss age anyway - there's a lot to learn from someone who has been by this for so many years?

I'm not saying that's how we've always done it, but if usual gross overstatements about the adminstration are removed (even if factual sometimes), and this one has been left, its fair to assume it may actually be true. If you want to fact check for sure why don't you go ask Bobby Ray or DD in person?

MeanGreenEngineer · November 29, 2005

I lurked on this board for years actually - I just never committed to anything for awhile.
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Ever cross your mind that I did the same?

You showed up to start defending DD on a wave with about 10 other people - maybe you lurked too, I don't know and don't care.

Ok, you got me. I'm a part of the Communist Conspiracy also. In order for PlummMeanGreen to win the argument I need to throw up straw man arguments. Michael Scott is also an alien. It would be too much to think I did the same as you and just read until now.

For the record, I am no Darell Dickey fan. If we lose to SMU and we don't turn this program around next year, I will shed no tears when he is gone.

I really do not want a pissing match with you - what will that resolve?

Really? This fooled me:

Being self referential to your own lame joke is hilarious.
Really funny.
Adds a lot to the board.
Ha.
Yes Plumm has most likely gone insane and the repition of points is making my eyes bleed (even if many of them are right), but your addition is like the doo doo icing on a vomit cake.
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My original post was from the frustration of thinking we may just seem the same 5 posts repeated in different forms for the next 9 months or so.

My post where about frustrations that have been spelt out in the first "PlummMeanGreen is a commununist" post.

Why dismiss age anyway - there's a lot to learn from someone who has been by this for so many years?

Well I guess in that case no one better question Darell Dickey or Bobby Ray, thier combine age must trump anyone here.

If you want to fact check for sure why don't you go ask Bobby Ray or DD in person?

I did call Bobby Ray and told him that some guy called "The Plummer" had told me he had vacation slides of him and Darell Dickey on the beach and I would like copies. He called me a pervert and hung up.

MootPoint · November 29, 2005

In all honesty, ee, I never for one minute really believed we had anyone presently on the UNT campus who would have the gonads to fire DD
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Oh yeah?

Cerebus · November 29, 2005

Everyone play nice.

Stop the personal attacks with each other.

Also, if we are going to throw serious accusation at someone, a little proof would be nice.

adman · November 29, 2005

but if you really want to see how far this has fallen at UNT, just get one of your NT football media guides and check out the 1975 football season as far as the schools on that schedule and some of the results during that year (and other years in that era);
I would suggest while looking out those stats you also look at football budgets as well. My guess is NT's budget was in keeping with other schools back then (or at least more so than now) which might help explain a more competitive team. (meaning we probably had similar facilities, coaches salaries etc than we do now.) Simply to compare wins vs. losses from 30 years ago to today would not be an apples to apples comparison.

MeanGreen61 · November 29, 2005

As they say, there will be a day of reckoning with such poor decision-making because after all, there are over 100,000 NT Exes in the Metroplex alone many of whom can read this board and recruiting lists, too, right?
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I was wondering how long take for the Exes number in the Metroplex to appear.

MeanMag · November 29, 2005

In all honesty, ee, I never for one minute really believed we had anyone presently on the UNT campus who would have the gonads to fire DD
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I know of several anyones who have gonads that big...

Every little thing that happens in this program is over analyzed on this board to the point that it creates a mountain out of a molehill.

Edited November 29, 2005 by MeanMag

TIgreen01 · November 30, 2005

Here's the thing I don't get.....

Plumm does not trust Bobby Ray....an alum of UNT.

Plumm wants to trust RV....no ties to UNT before he was hired as AD.

Why bash a UNT alum over RV? I like RV and feel that the guy does a great job, but when it comes down to nut-cutting time...Bobby Ray is one of us. What gives, Plumm?

Edited November 30, 2005 by TIgreen01

GrandGreen · November 30, 2005

I don't believe you were around in the "old" days. NT's athletic budget was a fraction of the "big boys" than as it is now. In addition, it was much harder to compete due to two major factors. One, there was no cap on the number of ships that could be granted. Teams such as UT could actually have more ship freshmen than NT had on its whole team. Teams such as UT again would recruit 60 to 100 freshmen a year. NT in the 60's and 70's was lucky to have 60 total on ships. Another factor to consider is that before the breakup of the SouthWest conference, Texas teams not in the SWC were hardly acknowledged at all.
Imo, you are correct you are not looking at an apple to apple comparison, it was much more difficult for NT to compete in the "old" days.

PlummMeanGreen · November 30, 2005

I don't believe you were around in the "old" days. NT's athletic budget was a fraction of the "big boys" than as it is now. In addition, it was much harder to compete due to two major factors. One, there was no cap on the number of ships that could be granted. Teams such as UT could actually have more ship freshmen than NT had on its whole team. Teams such as UT again would recruit 60 to 100 freshmen a year. NT in the 60's and 70's was lucky to have 60 total on ships. Another factor to consider is that before the breakup of the SouthWest conference, Texas teams not in the SWC were hardly acknowledged at all.
Imo, you are correct you are not looking at an apple to apple comparison, it was much more difficult for NT to compete in the "old" days.
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Well, I guess if my first ever NT game was the first one Hayden Fry coached at NTSU, you might say I was (in deed) at least around during the Fry era from its very beginnings to (a way pre-mature) end; and that thanks to a Big 10 school who recognized what Fry had done in Denton with some pretty Big Name schools wins and those what we'd call OOC games today. Such games that 8 years under Dickey Ball are merely a distant memory as far as being able to win any of them.

GrandGreen, if you ever read the book that was a New York Times best-seller called "Mean on the Hoof" it would prove that some of what you say is very correct.

That book about UT Longhorn football under DKR during the 1960's was a book written by ex UT football player Gary Shaw (who played at Denton HS of all places). It was really one of the very first sports-oriented kiss and tell books about the dark side of what was happening in college football during the 1960's, specifically UT Longhorn football in that era.

As you suggested, the Big Boys could sign endless numbers of players to scholarships. In fact, UT would sign kids that they knew good and well would never start for them but they signed them anyway so the TCU's, Baylor's, SMU's and so forth would not be able to sign them. I do thnk the 30 scholarship limit started around the early 1970's, though, allowing Baylor to win a SWC football championship in (I believe) 1973 which allowed them to play in the January 1's 1974 Cotton Bowl. The 30 'ship limit also allowed Fry's Mean Green to ultimately beat some schools we would now call OOC schools at UNT that ultimately gave him his ticket to a Big 10 school.

Have to disagree with you on comparing budgets from the 1970's (if that was the decade you were posting about) as compared to today. NT (as I recall) was closer to SWC budgets back then than non BCS budgets are to the BCS schools today. That is really quite depressing for non BCS schools like UNT who are now sucking hind teat in the worst conference in NCAA D1-A, ie, the SBC/Bottom 10.

We are way behind even some of the better non-BCS schools with our budget at the moment and until we upgrade this football program across the board with new leadership, I fear UNT will again get bogged down and go back to our old Texas Backwards 2 Step that 12 years in NCAA D1-AA made us quite expertise.

You know the Texas Backwards 2 Step, right? That is a dance that must have been created on the UNT campus; you know a dance where we make 4 giant steps forward, then we as NT Exes and fans allow some NT leaders who conduct athletic business as if they've had non-stop brain farts take our Mean Green football program 6 giant steps backwards.

This is why many of us now think present UNT leadership (led by a private school trained Chancellor who doesn't even have a Phd) will help add to the same kind of confusion that really began 5 years ago at UL-Monroe when Rick V was said to have actually fired Darrell Dickey (which about 100% of this forum supported back then as well) and then our Napoleon of the North NT Board of Regent Chairman in an apparent power-surge of self importance, rehired Darrell Dickey.

Like some of us have been saying for awhile fellow troops, don' look for much forward progress with NT football in light of one man on our campus who I guess is on some kind of ego trip (or whatever it is) and that would be one Bobby Ray, your chairman of the NT Board of Regents. To all of you who have said he has made all things possible at Eagle Point Campus I ask this simple question: What real choices did UNT have but to build those facilities (unless we dropped back down to NCAA D1-AA)?

UNT has had plans to build a new stadium that one on campus projected to be a finished venue by 2009 (but in light of what we will continue to have with NT football for the unforseeable future, which Fortune 500 type companies do you know who would invest into any such SBC/Bottom 10 mediocrity? So when Bobby Ray told Huff (as he said in this posts) that the NT chairman of the BOR's project is going nowhere, just maybe thats because he keeps strapping with extended years to a head football coach who is absolutely taking this football program nowhere?

All this the creation of NT leaders who need to get off their high horse and start remembering that they are serving the citizens of the almighty sovereign state of Texas and doing that service at a Texas public university; not serving at a Southern Methodist University whose leaders do NOT have to answer to anyone except their Board of Trustees, least of all the taxpayers of Texas.

Until Dickey Ball & Dickey Attitude which has begat small expectations to only reach the top of the SBC/Bottom 10 ceases to be UNT's (and some of our NT leader's) main goal, Mean Green football will once again go back into the womb, that is go back to some kind of Dead Zone (or what some of you have called college football purgatory in the past) such as we experienced those 12 years of a 2'nd rate Metroplex sports existence called NCAA D1-AA.

Still sorta' funny how many of us don't recall our self-appointed Chief Athletic Dept CEO, one Bobby Ray even being around Mean Green Country during most any era from the Fry years till he was appointed to his position. Who knows, maybe he was but I know many of us on this board from back then who would have known it because back then, you just sorta' knew most everyone who showed for Mean Green football and ancillery events surrounding that activity.

GOD BLESS TEXAS!

Edited November 30, 2005 by PlummMeanGreen

EagleChick03 · November 30, 2005

QUOTE(PlummMeanGreen @ Nov 29 2005, 01:59 PM)
In all honesty, ee, I never for one minute really believed we had anyone presently on the UNT campus who would have the gonads to fire DD
MootPoint Posted Today, 02:35 PM
Oh yeah?

Why did this thread go on so long after the Moot hooded face?!!??! We all know what that means. That is enough for me.

PlummMeanGreen · November 30, 2005

Here's the thing I don't get.....
Plumm does not trust Bobby Ray....an alum of UNT.
Plumm wants to trust RV....no ties to UNT before he was hired as AD.
Why bash a UNT alum over RV? I like RV and feel that the guy does a great job, but when it comes down to nut-cutting time...Bobby Ray is one of us. What gives, Plumm?
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Plumm is not alone with his feeling of both Bobby Ray and Darrell Dickey, TIgreen, and that is a guarantee. Can't name names, but there are some recogizable names among the UNT community that are ready for DD's 8 year career to soon become history and for Bobby Ray to let Rick V be the real AD at UNT.

My main problem with Bobby Ray is I don't think he will ever give Darrell Dickey an unbiased job evalution, but strange as that sounds, at most NCAA D1-A schools all of that (including hire/fire decisions) usually falls under the job description of a school's Athletic Director. Bobby Ray (as has been reported by some who were there) stepped over those boundaries 5 years ago when he was said to have over-ruled Rick V's firing of DD post ULM loss in Monroe.

I think anyone would agree that that is a poor management style and especially at the 4'th largest university in the state of Texas. Put yourselves in Rick V's shoes as an employee at the University of North Texas. For NT football to go forward, we need one less Bobby Ray and about 1,000 more Rick V's on our campus, no matter where either of them went to school.

Bobby Ray has involved himself way too much with NT Athletics when his other buddy he hired, Lee Jackson could probaby use him more in helping him to (sometimes this century) get the pink elephant of the UNT System, ie, UNT-Dallas to a point to where it is a free standing university. UNT-Dallas IMHO will prevent UNT-Denton from ever builiding a new football stadium among many other things that would have ordinarily gone to our main campus if not for this ridiculous wast of taxpayers monies UNT-Dallas project. Hellsbells, folks, UTA is only 15-20 miles from UNT-Dallas and anyone who would be going to a university would be able to afford gas to make a 15-20 mile drive to a UTA campus, right?

In light of the NT BOR chairman's continuance of Darrell Dickey's contract even if its just one more year, I now hope Bobby Ray will not be renewed his post by Gov. Perry in 2007 when he is supposed to go off the board. I just think he is a very meddlesome chairman of the BOR's who does not allow hired UNT personel do their jobs with Rick V as the prime example of that. We could be ready for CUSA membership if Rick V could have fired and hired another man 5 years ago, because I think many on this board know we won't get any higher than SBC/Bottom 10 success with DD. That won't get all of you who want to change leagues into the closest one to UNT, ie, CUSA.

I'd almost bet many academian outsiders in the Metroplex and beyond are beginning to once again laugh at UNT with all this Chinese fire-drill business or Keystone Cops comedy with the way our school is beginning to conduct its business.

GOD BLESS TEXAS!

Edited November 30, 2005 by PlummMeanGreen

MeanMag · November 30, 2005

Plumm is not alone with his feeling of both Bobby Ray and Darrell Dickey, TIgreen, and that is a guarantee. Can't name names, but there are some recogizable names among the UNT community that are ready for DD's 8 year career to soon become history and for Bobby Ray to let Rick V be the real AD at UNT.
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I understand you want to protect your sources. But, until they speak up or share their names, I really can't say I trust those rumors you present in that statement. I'm sure I'm not alone in that respect.

Until then, I am not going to base my opinion on someone elses unsubstantiated and uncredible source's opinion of what should happen to Bobby Ray and Darrel Dickey.

Maybe "they" (the recognizable names) are ready to throw a monkey wrench into the athletic department, just to stir things up. If "they" had such recognizable names, why do "they" not have the "gonads" to step up?

PlummMeanGreen · November 30, 2005

I understand you want to protect your sources. But, until they speak up or share their names, I really can't say I trust those rumors you present in that statement. I'm sure I'm not alone in that respect.
Until then, I am not going to base my opinion on someone elses unsubstantiated and uncredible source's opinion of what should happen to Bobby Ray and Darrel Dickey.
Maybe "they" (the recognizable names) are ready to throw a monkey wrench into the athletic department, just to stir things up. If "they" had such recognizable names, why do "they" not have the "gonads" to step up?
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First of all, some confidential emails from longtime alums/friends yet expressing confidentiality which I've always given if requested.

For the ones on campus who know UNT lately is much about politics and kiss-up (of which Dickey has been more effective with that part than he has being a coach or a, uh, "radio" personality. ; anyway, they probably want to be on the correct side of a new NT president with all this when he or she gets hired.

For those not on campus, they are contributors who just don't get involved with these kind of message board disscussion that sometime turn to diatribe status. They want to maintain their rapport and connections on campus that getting involved with this unique kind of dialogue we have going here on GMG.com would significantly affect (or destroy). I don't blame either groups from both on or off campus. They depend on some of us grunts to express how they feel. Just got another email from one last night who said: Preach on, brother!

DD's overall W/L record in 8 years, his last 5 years against a bunch of (mostly) just out of 1-AA schools in a league (SBC/Bottom 10) of which that group are still experiencing the growing pains of a new NCAA D1-A existence. Except I suppose the year Troy U beat us (2001) you know, our first bowl game in a long time, but if the Trojans had been in the SBC in 2001 (as they wanted) it would have been the Trojans 1'st bowl game ever and the Trojans who would have been the SBC's 1's t bowl rep in the NO's Bowl. For you who don't understand the concept of veiled and disguised success, doesn't even that 2001 Troy U win over UNT yet DD' Irish luck once again comes to this rescue?

As many disappointing OOC losses and those losses (now) to too many 1-AA teams moving to 1-A who only just begun playing football in recent years, DD's Lucky (yet very easy for most to even see thru, especially those who never have yet to give him one interview for other 1-A job openings) Charms seems to be just fine for SBC/Bottom 10 existence, except now even that league has passed Dickey Ball, Dickey Attitude, Dickey Lack of Propensity for Change and even more that has come to the surface lately, Dickey Recruiting the last few years and what we all can see it has produced.

For all of you who support all of the aforementioned, many of you were some of the loudest protesters during years of Dickey Radio Bashing aimed at you and the rest of us PLUS the always............Dickey Ball; anyway, I guess many are just curious why many of yours sudden 180 degree turnarounds of acceptance and approval of this now? Doe$n't make $en$e with thi$ DD bu$ine$$, you know? :blink:

Again, just why this Bobby Ray influenced acceptance of a Dickey-led football program (going south) and what any college football novice would quickly (after a look in the NT FB Media Guide as a pretty solid soure) recognize as one of the biggest sham jobs done by an imposter would-be D1-A head football coach whose background before UNT was mostly that of a journeyman college football assistant coach (check the media guide). AND WORSE...........what longtime UNT officials and the UNT community allowed to be pushed on them by a very small handful of "pre-Bill Snyder Success" KSU connection boys to push each and every part of a Darrell Dickey hire (now going on an unprecedented 9 years of under .500) down a helluva' bunch of Texans throats.

BTW, I've got some ocean front property out here in Parker County I want to talk to some of you about, in fact, some of you might get as excited about that as one more year that Darrell Dickey will get to prove to even more his mediocrity(including, again, NCAA D1-A schools who will still not have him on their "serious list" as a candidate for their higher profile job openings).

You know, many of us would love to once again have a head football coach at UNT that a Big 10 school would want to hire.

UNT can and has done better. Why Bobby Ray wants to play Big Man on Campus, ie, our Napoleon of the North to piss off a whole bunch of NT Exes and Mean Green fans is beyond many and trust me on that.........many.

GOD BLESS TEXAS!

Edited November 30, 2005 by PlummMeanGreen

TIgreen01 · November 30, 2005

Plumm,

Basically what I'm reading in your posts is that you have turned on Bobby Ray simply b/c he supports DD, who you detest. If the situation was flipped and RV was the one "going hunting" with DD and saving his job, I get the feeling you'd be against him too--regardless of all the good that he's done in the last 5 years.

GrandGreen · November 30, 2005

Well, I guess if my first ever NT game was the first one Hayden Fry coached at NTSU, you might say I was (in deed) at least around during the Fry era from its very beginnings to (a way pre-mature) end; and that thanks to a Big 10 school who recognized what Fry had done in Denton with some pretty Big Name schools wins and those what we'd call OOC games today. Such games that 8 years under Dickey Ball are merely a distant memory as far as being able to win any of them.
GrandGreen, if you ever read the book that was a New York Times best-seller called "Mean on the Hoof" it would prove that some of what you say is very correct.
That book about UT Longhorn football under DKR during the 1960's was a book written by ex UT football player Gary Shaw (who played at Denton HS of all places). It was really one of the very first sports-oriented kiss and tell books about the dark side of what was happening in college football during the 1960's, specifically UT Longhorn football in that era.
As you suggested, the Big Boys could sign endless numbers of players to scholarships. In fact, UT would sign kids that they knew good and well would never start for them but they signed them anyway so the TCU's, Baylor's, SMU's and so forth would not be able to sign them. I do thnk the 30 scholarship limit started around the early 1970's, though, allowing Baylor to win a SWC football championship in (I believe) 1973 which allowed them to play in the January 1's 1974 Cotton Bowl. The 30 'ship limit also allowed Fry's Mean Green to ultimately beat some schools we would now call OOC schools at UNT that ultimately gave him his ticket to a Big 10 school.
FYI Ship football limits were put in place in 1977 at 95 and reduced to current limit of 85 in 1994.
Have to disagree with you on comparing budgets from the 1970's (if that was the decade you were posting about) as compared to today. NT (as I recall) was closer to SWC budgets back then than non BCS budgets are to the BCS schools today. That is really quite depressing for non BCS schools like UNT who are now sucking hind teat in the worst conference in NCAA D1-A, ie, the SBC/Bottom 10.
Obviously, budgets were indeed much closer in 1970's in absolute dollars. However, on a percentage basis, I don't think much has changed. Using UT as an example, is probably not a good idea as their current spending is insane and out of line with even the vast majority of the power conference members. .
We are way behind even some of the better non-BCS schools with our budget at the moment and until we upgrade this football program across the board with new leadership, I fear UNT will again get bogged down and go back to our old Texas Backwards 2 Step that 12 years in NCAA D1-AA made us quite expertise.
Sadly, what you say is historically true. In NT's few success stories. Rod Rust's football teams of the late 1960's, Fry's late 1970's football teams, and Blakeley early basketball teams; NT has always failed to capitalize. Instead of expanding and building on success NT has retrenched and actually cut athletic spending. I remember when Fry left, how NT administration complained of Fry's spending and lauded Jerry Moore for getting control over expenditures. This type of small thinking has haunted NT for decades.

MeanMag · November 30, 2005

If someone were to go write Bobby Ray a check for 10 million dollars to spend at the athletic department's discretion and the one condition was that part of it be used to hire a new coach and the rest on a new stadium. Do you think he would do it?

I would hope so.

Does the $$ need to be higher or lower than 10 mil?

I only ask because that is the only way I see this situation changing before next season. And if no one has that kind of money, then I kind of don't see how we can ask for Dickey's head on a plate at this point. I want to tell the athletic department and administrators what to do as much as you guys do, or more. But, I'm not going to expect them to take me very seriously until I pony up the big $$$.

So big spender, how much are you willing to spend to see Dickey gone?

PlummMeanGreen · December 1, 2005

If someone were to go write Bobby Ray a check for 10 million dollars to spend at the athletic department's discretion and the one condition was that part of it be used to hire a new coach and the rest on a new stadium. Do you think he would do it?
I would hope so.
Does the $$ need to be higher or lower than 10 mil?
I only ask because that is the only way I see this situation changing before next season. And if no one has that kind of money, then I kind of don't see how we can ask for Dickey's head on a plate at this point. I want to tell the athletic department and administrators what to do as much as you guys do, or more. But, I'm not going to expect them to take me very seriously until I pony up the big $$$.
So big spender, how much are you willing to spend to see Dickey gone?
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MeanMag, for decades many of us have seen NT officials come up with whatever amount of monies they need that would handle any employee's contract at UNT, even Darrell Dickeys. Actually, I believe there are clauses in his present contract that says he can either be bought out for some kind of minimum (dont' quote me on that one) or as most schools draw up their football coach's contracts, pay the amount out spread over a selected number of years. Bobby Ray's inabilty to be unbiased concerning a coach in his 8'th year still under .500, ie, one Darrell R. Dickey is the problem here, not DD's contract.

I never thought he would be fired after this Fall although there is enough evidence to do so if any of our Board of Regents would merely get an NT FB Media Guide to discover for themselves how the worst conference in NCAAA D1-A, ie, the SBC/Bottom 10, has made the man a folk hero with a few in MG Country. Of course, that group (sometimes) are the very ones who don't want to talk about DD's OOC record against even wussy OOC schools we have played (who beat us).

GOD BLESS TEXAS!

Edited December 1, 2005 by PlummMeanGreen