formula for success....

gamebreaker · October 5, 2005

I know I've been negative before in my posts, but thats b/c Im frustrated with watching NT struggle to do anything offensively. The other thing I am frustrated with is the lack of adjustment each week. its just the same predictable thing every week. "Dickey ball" has been fine for the past four years....run, run, run, play action pass. We have been able to win in the sun-belt with this formula. But we all know that we have had a very tough time in non-conference games and the reason is b/c we dont have the athletes to play smash-mouth football against bigger, stronger, faster teams (everyone outside the Sun Belt). This is 2005 and the smashmouth football of yesteryear needs to take a back seat. We need to spread the field (3 or 4 receivers) and now that you have the defense spread out, instead of 8 in the box, you can throw the short routes with consistency (take what the D gives you). Spreading the defense out also give you RUNNING LANES and we do have great running backs. we need to give them a chance by spreading out the D!! this will also help open up the deeper pass. but if we continue to play "dickey ball" then we will never get to where we want to be. anyone ever watch Southlake Carroll??? im not talking about an air-raid like Tech....we need a balanced attack like Southlake to be successful. I think with the running backs we have and the decent receivers we have, this is the way to go. Take some pressure off the O-line. with this balanced spread offense we could dominate the Sun Belt and finally be competitive in non-conference. We need to make this change soon since we have a new stadium coming....recruits need to see a new offense and new facilities to draw them here.

UNTLifer · October 5, 2005

One problem, North Texas doesn't have the recruiting budget that Southlake has.

Cerebus · October 5, 2005

What, exactly, makes you think we can execute the short routes?

If you would bother to glance at the box scores you would see over the last two games we have ran 57 times and passed 48. Not exactly dickeyball.

At the end of the game, Troy was in it's prevent mode, don't get fooled by ball movement there.

gamebreaker · October 5, 2005

i think we're getting better recruits each year, we just need to make a dramatic change in the offense to give us a chance. will that happen??....well probably not with Dickey in charge...who knows, maybe he'll surprise us.

gamebreaker · October 5, 2005

Cerebus- whether we could execute or not is one thing, but lets not be so stubborn and refuse to open things up to give our selves a chance. two TE's every play and playaction pass is just not gonna get it done...

UNTLifer · October 5, 2005

What, exactly, makes you think we can execute the short routes?
If you would bother to glance at the box scores you would see over the last two games we have ran 57 times and passed 48. Not exactly dickeyball.
At the end of the game, Troy was in it's prevent mode, don't get fooled by ball movement there.
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Maybe it was a prevent defense, but are you telling me we are unable to pass against a stacked line bent on stopping the run?

We sure aren't executing the "everyone go long and I'll throw it up for grabs routes" either. The lack of imagination in this offense is appalling.

Cerebus · October 5, 2005

Cerebus- whether we could execute or not is one thing

Whether or not we execute is one thing?!?! It's *THE* thing.

two TE's every play and playaction pass is just not gonna get it done...

We didn't run alot of playaction. I have never seen so much non play action from a team since Simon was here.

Cerebus · October 5, 2005

are you telling me we are unable to pass against a stacked line bent on stopping the run?
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Yes.

Stan R · October 5, 2005

Maybe it was a prevent defense, but are you telling me we are unable to pass against a stacked line bent on stopping the run?
We sure aren't executing the "everyone go long and I'll throw it up for grabs routes" either. The lack of imagination in this offense is appalling.
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I strongly agree with this. The everyone go long thing is NOT working and a change will have to be made, IMO.

risinggreen · October 5, 2005

Based on our passing accuracy, I think we would be much better off if everyone went SHORT. Get the ball to a playmaker out in the flat and see if they can make something happen.

MeanMag · October 5, 2005

Based on our passing accuracy, I think we would be much better off if everyone went SHORT. Get the ball to a playmaker out in the flat and see if they can make something happen.
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that should read THE playmaker, Quinn. Nobody including running backs has given me a reason this season to think otherwise.

meangreendork · October 5, 2005

About the short routes: Meager was doing that more effectively than the long routes towards the last part of the game. He still had trouble with accuracy, but it seemed like that was more effective than the long routes.

About the play-action: It doesn't work against an 8-9 man rush. It can buy time against a team running a normal defense, but when those 8-9 guys are in the backfield anyways, it doesn't matter who has the ball.

Got5onIt · October 5, 2005

What, exactly, makes you think we can execute the short routes?
If you would bother to glance at the box scores you would see over the last two games we have ran 57 times and passed 48. Not exactly dickeyball.
At the end of the game, Troy was in it's prevent mode, don't get fooled by ball movement there.
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Makes you really appreciate what Scott Hall meant to this team. I'll be the first to tell you I had no idea how consistant he was for the offense.

I think the QB position is where the issue begins, for this team.

FirefightnRick · October 5, 2005

I haven't watched the replay yet but I'll bet we didn't balance the pass early in the game. Only after we got behind did we pass to catch up in the stats, and only pass to the same usual routes. The 12 and out, the 8 and out in which the LB's knew exactly the spot to go to disrupt the pass many times including an INT, and the long streak toss up.

Tell me what other successful program uses this same offense and offensive philosophy. It's been great against the belt. But they have caught up to us. The fact that Troy's safety played 7 yards deep all night say's they knew what was coming, knew how to defend it and knew we would not change nor be able to execute the change because WE DON'T PASS. WE RUN.

Tire of this whole arguement, very tired.

Rick