We need defense

EagleD · September 25, 2005

TIgreen01 · September 25, 2005

Remember him?
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I would feel alot better about DD's staff if we could somehow hire this guy back....or a clone of him. Can we seriously not afford this guy anymore?? Seems like we ought to be able to spend some money on our dang coaching staff.

res1dg16 · September 25, 2005

he'd be a moron to return to UNT

Edited September 25, 2005 by res1dg16

TIgreen01 · September 25, 2005

he'd be a moron to return to UNT
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Really? What's UCLA doing these days? That staff could be gone very soon with the way they are giving up LA to USC....

KingDL1 · September 25, 2005

he'd be a moron to return to UNT
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I would think that would depend on what DeLoach wants.

Here is a what if for U:

If DeLoach returned as head coach reestablished a top 25 defense and found a creative offensive coordinator to really fire up the offense, he could make one hell of a name for himself. Took UNT to a dominate mid-major with appearances in the top 25.

Coach · September 25, 2005

Really? What's UCLA doing these days?

3-0 including a win over OU, outscoring opponents by an average of 27 points.

FirefightnRick · September 25, 2005

Kenny Evans, our D coordinator has done an excellent job here at NT considering the holes our offense has put his squad in. The fact that he can recruit any D talent at all knowing good and well they will come here and be on the field all day getting their head handed to them is remarkable in itself. Lose Kenny Evans and lose even worse. He's by far our top recruiter.

Evans also knows what it takes to install a top 10 defense as he was the #2 guy under Deloach.

I don't blame our defense at all in all this. Everyone goes through personell changes. Look at TCU. They lost their DC to Texas State two years ago. It didn't change the fact that on offense they still go out and try to score from anywhere on the field instead of waiting for their defense to set them up. They don't care where the ball is placed, their headed for the endzone with anyone they put in.

Boise has had changes, Marshall has gone through them, Bobby Ross is in his second season at Army. Losing Deloach is not the problem.

No more Excuses.

Rick

Edited September 25, 2005 by FirefightnRick

Coffee and TV · September 26, 2005

Prior to coming to Westwood, DeLoach served as defensive coordinator for three years at North Texas State was the secondary coach for five seasons
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Edited September 26, 2005 by Coffee and TV

MeanGreen61 · September 26, 2005

Dream on about DeLoach. He's making at least twice what he made here plus a vehicle. He'd have to have a screw loose to even consider it. Being at high profile UCLA is a big leg up for his future.

Got5onIt · September 26, 2005

He'd be perfect.

Coffee and TV · September 26, 2005

Dream on about DeLoach. He's making at least twice what he made here plus a vehicle. He'd have to have a screw loose to even consider it. Being at high profile UCLA is a big leg up for his future.
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of course his house is probably twice as much as what he paid here. That or its half the size

KingDL1 · September 26, 2005

of course his house is probably twice as much as what he paid here. That or its half the size
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Gary DeLoach is a Secondary/Cornerbacks coach he may be making twice what he was here, but what about as UNT head coach now?

ipEAGLE · September 26, 2005

I could see DeLoach coming back to UNT for a head coaching position...

But lets not count DD out at this point... its just 2 losses.

KingDL1 · September 26, 2005

I could see DeLoach coming back to UNT for a head coaching position...
But lets not count DD out at this point... its just 2 losses.
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I not counting out DD just thinking out loud if DeLoach may be an option.

PlummMeanGreen · September 26, 2005

I could see DeLoach coming back to UNT for a head coaching position...
But lets not count DD out at this point... its just 2 losses.
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That's all it seems to take in, uh, Mean Green Country.

Maybe some need to look at what may be even more negative than what they perceive 2 losses have been and that is how many on this board's attitude have gone way south? One cannot stress enough all the different constituencies that are reading all this, too, ie, our own football players, potential recruits and both of the aforementioned families? Maybe some may want to examine the reason for this continuous urge or propensity to turn on the very passion and football program they love 99% of the time albeit during happier times. Maybe even a little self soul searching under a microscope as to why too many of our Mean Green fan base seems to bail out way too easily or quickly just about any year when this football program takes a (usually) short detour on the road to where we all ultimately want to go.

Hey! Nobody in their right mind can be happy right now--that's a given. Coach Dickey has never run the offense I prefer as a college football fan--he never has and probably never will nor will he consult with any of us about this subject, either ; but we as alums/fans cannot ignore what he has done in Denton (with arguably the worst football facilities in NCAA D1-A most of the time he has been at NT); that is, what his teams have done with 4 bowl games in row that one MTSU fan just a day ago on GMG.com said his school would literally kill for and do all that with a coach like Darrell Dickey. Also during the DD era at NT, we've had more TV games (national and regional) than all the other NT coaches in the history of our school combined and that from the very beginning of when football first started at North Texas Normal.

Yet just look at all the new faces on this football team, folks, and then think again (before posting more of the direct or subtle Negative Ned stuff) if all that has happened should be that much of a surprise to any of us. At any scrimmage you may have attended during 2-a-days should have been a very large clue as to tell many of us that we might be in for a different kind of season than what all the pre-season publicity on only 2 of our players suggested we might have.

Many of us (including yours truly) bought into all the national pub and assumed way too much on the basis of national sportswriters about our team without looking at the 2005 Mean Green media guide that had way too many new and inexperienced faces within its covers. In many ways, we are all still trying to have happen this year vs the Tulsa's and KSU's with last year's football team. Last time I checked the 2005 NT football media guide, Hall, Awassom, Buckles, Nwiege and others are no longer a part of our football team. Another strong clue we should have picked up early on during 2-a-days was this: Many who have little or no experience have taken most all of the aforementioned NT player's places. too.

We are more than just blessed to have Sir Patrick Cobbs and Super Jamario Thomas at NORTH TEXAS and the last 2 years with both of those guys have really put NT on the college football map like we've never been before in a different sort of way, but football is a team sport and that is what makes it so great with every working component of the engine needing to work in complete coordination with each other as to allow such talents as Cobbs/Thomas/Quinn and others to have success; but also part of the "Team North Texas" approach should even be us, ie, the Mean Green fans themselves. Fans at most other NCAA D1-A collegiate outposts are considered so vital to their school's football team's success that even one such school calls their fans--"the 12'th Man." At NORTH TEXAS, none of us should ever want to play the part of the "un-12'th Man" or that is, play the part of a fan that helps break the spirit of any player on our very own alma mater's football team by what we post or say on GoMeanGreen.com.

GMG!

Edited September 26, 2005 by PlummMeanGreen