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I agree that we don't always do the absolute best job at marketing but to blame it on the marketing department is unfair, in my opinion. They have tried every avenue possible, reaching out to the freshmen, going to the student groups, making partnerships with the local apartments, going to elementary schools, partnering football players up with student leaders, t.v., paper, radio and all for an average attendance increase of 2,000 maybe and vast majority of that can be attributed to a better football team. I really thought that over the last few years our change in orientation would make a huge difference but unfortunately it hasn't. Don't get me wrong, our orientation is amazing now thanks to Dr Jacobs and her staff and we have some very proud and spirited freshmen coming out of orientation, the problem though is freshmen are easily influenced and once they start going to class, hanging out with upper classmen and realize that it's not "cool" to go to the athletic events, suddenly they don't care anymore. That is why I think we need something "major" to get our attendance going, like a win at K-State. I think our athletic department realizes that. You will see them try to keep the connections up that they have made but they realize that we have to have something significant to happen, that's why you don't see an influx of money into the mktg budget. I hope that it changes but like many of you, I have worked hard over the last few years to market NT athletics but you have to be a realist. Obviously, I am speaking in general terms here. Overall! If you reply, please don't give me an example of these 2 freshmen that are crazy about UNT. I mean obviously ALL freshmen are not like this but most are!

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too many words in your response...tired head at work

but to anything you say, whether I agree or not, my response is "Figures, he lives in L.A." laugh.gif

hope alls well in LA-LA land! Are you coming in for Homecoming?

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I agree that we don't always do the absolute best job at marketing but to blame it on the marketing department is unfair, in my opinion.  They have tried every avenue possible, reaching out to the freshmen, going to the student groups, making partnerships with the local apartments, going to elementary schools, partnering football players up with student leaders, t.v., paper, radio and all for an average attendance increase of 2,000 maybe and vast majority of that can be attributed to a better football team.    I really thought that over the last few years our change in orientation would make a huge difference but unfortunately it hasn't.  Don't get me wrong, our orientation is amazing now thanks to Dr Jacobs and her staff and we have some very proud and spirited freshmen coming out of orientation, the problem though is freshmen are easily influenced and once they start going to class, hanging out with upper classmen and realize that it's not "cool" to go to the athletic events, suddenly they don't care anymore.  That is why I think we need something "major" to get our attendance going, like a win at K-State.  I think our athletic department realizes that.  You will see them try to keep the connections up that they have made but they realize that we have to have something significant to happen, that's why you don't see an influx of money into the mktg budget.  I hope that it changes but like many of you, I have worked hard over the last few years to market NT athletics but you have to be a realist.  Obviously, I am speaking in general terms here.  Overall!  If you reply, please don't give me an example of these 2 freshmen that are crazy about UNT.  I mean obviously ALL freshmen are not like this but most are!

Well, its like a sign I read in someone's office one day that said something to the effect of (and I paraphrase): Keep doing the same things the way you've always done them, and you can expect to keep getting the same results.

FISHY BUSINESS: I think NT officials needs to stretch its horizons and go fishing at some new ponds because I think the same old ponds they keep yearly visiting are void of new fish or better yet, the ponds they keep frequentin have fish in them that just aren't interested in NT's same old lure we annually keep using in our NT athletic department's earnest and sincere attempts to keep trying (in vain) to catch the same old fish. blink.gif Please don't ask me to repeat what I just tried to express. laugh.gif

GET THIS>>When I was a student at NT, Denton County had 99,000 citizens in the entire county and according to a Texas Almanac back in that day it was even called a rural county. According to a recent Dallas Morning News article, Denton County now has close to 560,000 citizens. blink.gif Folks, we be doing something wrong here. sad.gif IMHO, our marketing people at NT really do need to move over to some new ponds to do our fishing and I think all would agree that the Denton County of 2005 has more than enough ponds to keep everyone busy with some new (fresh) opportunities. I think the other fish in those old familiar ponds we annually fish have just plain o' gotten on the stale side and some of em' are even at the stinkin' stage! ohmy.gif

At NT more than just about anywhere, we need to dust our feet of the negative part of our past and move on to whats going to eventually make us successful.

Yet for tomorrow night at Fouts Field for our home season opener, I think we are all going to be more than pleased with the turnstile count.

GMG!

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