All-Time Mean Green Team

Eagle-96 · June 15, 2005

Who are your picks for the All-Time Mean Green team?

QB - Steve Ramsay

RB - Abner Haynes

RB - Ray Renfro

TE - Luis Silva

WR - Ron Shanklin

WR - John Love

OL - Glen Holloway

OL - Nick Zuniga

OL - Philip Armour

OL -

OL - Felton Whitlow

DE - Cedric Hardman

DT - Joe Greene

DT - Brandon Kennedy

DE - Willis Hutson

LB - Burks Washington

LB - Brad Kassell

LB - Cody Spencer

DB - J T Smith

DB - Spider Lockhart

DB - Beasley Reece

DB - Bill Brashier

P - Toby Gowin

K - Iseed Khoury

Edited June 15, 2005 by Eagle-96

Ole Green Guts · June 15, 2005

TE - Jeff Muenchow (blocking) - TE

RB - P. Cobbs and Galbreth - top two all time in yds.

DT or DE - Corbin Montgomery

LB - Cody Spencer

Marty · June 15, 2005

LB- Burks Washington

TE-Luis Silva

Eagle-96 · June 15, 2005

LB- Burks Washington
TE-Luis Silva

I was torn between Silva and Blount and I couldn't, for the life of me, remember Washington's name.

Edited June 15, 2005 by Eagle-96

emmitt01 · June 15, 2005

TE - Jeff Muenchow (blocking) - TE
RB - P. Cobbs and Galbreth - top two all time in yds.
DT or DE - Corbin Montgomery
LB - Cody Spencer

Wilburn is top all time in yards is he not? I'd be willing to be that J. Thomas owns that record when all is said and done though.

eeally · June 15, 2005

QB--Mitch Mayer

SUMG · June 15, 2005

QB--Steve Ramsey (Honorable mention nod to Jordan Case, though)

RB--Jamario Thomas

RB--Bernard Jackson

TE---Luis Silva

OL--Phillip Armour

Nick Zuniga

Glen Holloway

Scott Bowles

Greg Davidson

WR--- Ron Shanklin

Troy Redwine

DL----- Joe Greene

"Booger" Kennedy

Walter Chapman

Cedric Hardman

Honorable Mention on D Line: Tony Elliott

LB--- Burks Washington

Cody Spencer

Byron Gross

DB--- J.T. Smith

Kim Phillips

Bill Brashier (he was a coach when I was at NT; I think he still holds all-time INT record at our school)

Anthony Bridges

NCMeanGreen · June 15, 2005

So, did Brian Waters suck in College, or what? Isn't he the best linemen in the NFL currently????

UNTLifer · June 15, 2005

So, did Brian Waters suck in College, or what? Isn't he the best linemen in the NFL currently????

If memory serves me correct, Waters never really settled in to a position at North Texas. He played DL, OL, TE, H-back, etc... No, he didn't suck, the coaches just never committed to having him play and concentrate on one position.

SUMG · June 15, 2005

So, did Brian Waters suck in College, or what? Isn't he the best linemen in the NFL currently????

Yeah, Lifer's right. Brian started out as a TE......was a pretty good TE. As a matter of fact, after three years, he was on course to break Luis Silva's all-time receptions record for a TE. Well, then DD was hired. DD and his staff turned Brian into a two-way player, playing him at DT and TE. And even though Brian only needed 10 receptions his senior year to break the aforementioned record, he never had a chance. (As Dickey and his OC never threw to the TE that year).

So, Brian is great in the NFL.......but he wasn't an O Lineman at NT. And at the positions he played (TE and DT), he wasn't good enough to beat out others on this list, IMHO.

taynt7 · June 15, 2005

yeah gotta include patrick cobbs

taynt7 · June 15, 2005

btw....no offense to anyone whatsoever, but does anybody on this board have a job?!

UNTLifer · June 15, 2005

QB: Steve Ramsey

QB: Jordan Case

QB: Scott Davis

RB: Abner Haynes

RB: Jamario Thomas

RB: Ray Renfro

RB: Bernard Jackson

WR: David Kervin

WR: Troy Redwine

WR: Marcus Camper

WR: John Love

WR: Johnny Quinn

TE: Luis Silva

TE: Andy Blount

OL: Zuniga, Armour, Holloway, Brewster, Davidson

DL: Joe Greene, Cedric Hardeman, Booger, Walter Chapman, Tony Elliot

LB: Gross, Lance White, Burks Washington, Cody Spencer, Brad Kassell, Chris Hurd

DB: Kim Phillips, Beasley Reese, Jonas Buckles, Craig Jones, J.T. Smith

Kickers: Khoury/Bazaldua

Punters: Baker/Gowin

I know, it kind of looks like today's HS all-state teams, but I just couldn't decide between some.

Edited June 15, 2005 by UNTLifer

Greeneagle87 · June 15, 2005

I have a feeling Quinn will get drafted he runs like a 3.7 40.

Ole Green Guts · June 15, 2005

I think that Kevin Galbreth is the all time rushing leader. If he isnt, then Patrick is ahead of him. I am pretty sure that KG passed JaQuay. If he didnt then he was the single season rushing leader. I dunno anyway. KG, PC and JMo are three of the best.

bigdaddy · June 15, 2005

OLE GREEN GUTS

YOUR PICTURE LOOKS LIKE SHANE YORK (played 97-99?). ARE YOU THE INFAMOUS SHANE YORK??????

GrayEagle · June 15, 2005

QB - Steve Ramsey

RB - Ray Renfro

RB - Abner Haynes

WR - Ron Shanklin

WR - John Love

TE - Luis Silva

OL - Glen Holloway

OL - Nick Zuniga

OL - Phillip Armour

OL - Bill Carrico

OL - Felton Whitlow

DE - Cedric Hardman

DT - Joe Greene

DT - Bill Bishop

DE - Brandon Kennedy

LB - Burks Washington

LB - Cody Spencer

LB - Byron Gross

DB - J.T. Smith

DB - Bill Brashier

DB - Leonard Dunlap

DB - Carl Lockhart

PK - Keith Chapman

P - Don Fechtman

I have two playing out of place, Glen Holloway at OT and Booger Kennedy at DE. The other two guards, Zuniga and Carrico were better than our next best tackle (Bowles) IMO. Had Booger had a healthy four years he'd likely have been my number two but Bill Bishop was an outstanding tackle at NT and went on to have a 10 year career with the Chicago Bears. Had I not put Booger on my all-time team that spot would have gone to Corbin Montgomery.

Except for Jamario, I don't see any that have yet to finish their college career replacing an all-timer. Quinn probably has the ability but I don't see him getting enough chances thrown his way to reach the top.

Cooley · June 15, 2005

(Since 1975)

QB

Ken Washington (could play for most in the country)

Jordan Case (2nd string to Washington)

Mitch Maher (Plano's finest)

Scott Davis (Richardson's best)

RB

Jamario Thomas (1st year alone ranks high)

Bernard Jackson (Sportscenter highlighter)

Malcolm Jones (pound per pound - the best)

Kevin Galbreath (The start of the Okla raid)

Eric Pegram (Hillcrest High's best-Prop 48 Neb signee)

Patrick Cobbs (Isn't this his 8 year at UNT)

JaQuay Wilburn (Friday Night Lights star)

WR

Broderick McGrew (Combo of size & speed)

Johnny Quinn (Should make Mel's list in 06)

Tim Loftin (acrobatic who found the seams)

Pete Harvey (see Tim Loftin)

Marcus Camper (Samuell HS duel sports star)

Tony Cook (Excellent option QB at Plano)

Brian Smith (Juco standout)

Troy Redwine (huge games for the Mean Green)

OL

Phillip Armour (Home boy that stayed home)

Nick Zunica (Standout at SGP)

Scott Bowles (Wichita Falls recruit)

Jeff Bowles (Nice bloodlines)

DE

Willis Hudson (Member of Parker's state championship team)

Charlie Johnson (String Bean from South Oak Cliff)

Corbin Montgomery (Pick a last name)

Reggie Lewis (Tampa Bay Buc)

Adrian Awasson (Nice 6-3, 240 recruit)

Rayford Cooks (Dallas Pinkston claim to fame)

Tony Elliott (New Orleans Saint-Nice transfer)

DT

Walter Chapman (Pound per pound-the best ever at pos.)

Brandon Kennedy (Came in hyped-Did not dissapoint)

Stan Thomas (Another excellent Dennis Parker recruit)

Michael Priutt (came down to the wire for his services)

LB

Burks Washington (Port Arthur's top LB-UNT's also)

Byron Gross (Steady)

Lance White (See Byron Gross)

Brad Kassell (A Dickey find)

Cody Spencer (HS issues help him land at UNT)

Benny Cherry (Vernon terrior)

DB

Dhati Lewis (unheralded)

Wayne Walker (Cliff Harris of UNT secondary)

Walter Casey (#24)

Kim Phillips (Played much better than most Kim's)

Lawrence Ellis (very steady)

Mike Rhone (Austin Reagan star QB to UNT DB star)

Markeith Knowlton (Will be missed in 05)

D T Woodson (Sprinter speed from DeSoto high)

Anthony Bridges (Quietly very effective)

Sean Mayes (small and quick)

KR

Marcus Campus (hold your breath)

TE

Luis Silva (State Champion at Converse Judson)

Andy Blount (best hands of recent TE's)

Brian Waters (Pick a position)

P

John Baker (head of punter U)

Toby Gowin (Still making NFL $$$)

PK I Khoury (school record-great soccer player)

N Balzadua (Sp) Should be team MVP in 2005

bigrobdsp · June 16, 2005

I have a feeling Quinn will get drafted he runs like a 3.7 40.

I heard he was getting close to the 2's

Green Grenade II · June 16, 2005

I'll take Jamario Thomas. Before its all said and done he will be one of the best RB's to come out of NT... PC won't get drafted IMO... JT is the best shot we have at having an offensive player drafted in a while. He is going to continue to be something phenomenal at NT
And yes, I have a job I enjoy very much (obviously)

My favorite imitation of Benedict Arnold at Quaterback for North Texas had to be that great gift to opposing defensive secondaries, Richard Bridges. In fact, he has probably made some of our past opponents "most valuable opposing quarterback lists." Not don't diss me for bringing up his name. He holds a spot in my heart, but I think some 409 will get it out!

NT80 · June 16, 2005

(Since 1975)
QB
Ken Washington (could play for most in the country)
Jordan Case (2nd string to Washington)
Mitch Maher (Plano's finest)
Scott Davis (Richardson's best)
RB
Jamario Thomas (1st year alone ranks high)
Bernard Jackson (Sportscenter highlighter)
Malcolm Jones (pound per pound - the best)
Kevin Galbreath (The start of the Okla raid)
Eric Pegram (Hillcrest High's best-Prop 48 Neb signee)
Patrick Cobbs (Isn't this his 8 year at UNT)
JaQuay Wilburn (Friday Night Lights star)
WR
Broderick McGrew (Combo of size & speed)
Johnny Quinn (Should make Mel's list in 06)
Tim Loftin (acrobatic who found the seams)
Pete Harvey (see Tim Loftin)
Marcus Camper (Samuell HS duel sports star)
Tony Cook (Excellent option QB at Plano)
Brian Smith (Juco standout)
Troy Redwine (huge games for the Mean Green)
OL
Phillip Armour (Home boy that stayed home)
Nick Zunica (Standout at SGP)
Scott Bowles (Wichita Falls recruit)
Jeff Bowles (Nice bloodlines)
DE
Willis Hudson (Member of Parker's state championship team)
Charlie Johnson (String Bean from South Oak Cliff)
Corbin Montgomery (Pick a last name)
Reggie Lewis (Tampa Bay Buc)
Adrian Awasson (Nice 6-3, 240 recruit)
Rayford Cooks (Dallas Pinkston claim to fame)
Tony Elliott (New Orleans Saint-Nice transfer)
DT
Walter Chapman (Pound per pound-the best ever at pos.)
Brandon Kennedy (Came in hyped-Did not dissapoint)
Stan Thomas (Another excellent Dennis Parker recruit)
Michael Priutt (came down to the wire for his services)
LB
Burks Washington (Port Arthur's top LB-UNT's also)
Byron Gross (Steady)
Lance White (See Byron Gross)
Brad Kassell (A Dickey find)
Cody Spencer (HS issues help him land at UNT)
Benny Cherry (Vernon terrior)
DB
Dhati Lewis (unheralded)
Wayne Walker (Cliff Harris of UNT secondary)
Walter Casey (#24)
Kim Phillips (Played much better than most Kim's)
Lawrence Ellis (very steady)
Mike Rhone (Austin Reagan star QB to UNT DB star)
Markeith Knowlton (Will be missed in 05)
D T Woodson (Sprinter speed from DeSoto high)
Anthony Bridges (Quietly very effective)
Sean Mayes (small and quick)
KR
Marcus Campus (hold your breath)
TE
Luis Silva (State Champion at Converse Judson)
Andy Blount (best hands of recent TE's)
Brian Waters (Pick a position)
P
John Baker (head of punter U)
Toby Gowin (Still making NFL $$$)
PK I Khoury (school record-great soccer player)
N Balzadua (Sp) Should be team MVP in 2005

Excellent list. I would add Keith Chapman as PK and Marvin Walker at WR

Edited June 16, 2005 by NT80

Varsity · June 16, 2005

You have to have Walter Chapman on there. I would also add Willie Parker to the offensive line.

greenminer · June 16, 2005

I heard he was getting close to the 2's

omg...i gave that original a second look, and then had to actually laugh out loud when I read your reply, greeneagle.

Edited June 16, 2005 by greenminer

SilverEagle · June 16, 2005

(Since 1975)
QB
Ken Washington (could play for most in the country)
Jordan Case (2nd string to Washington)
Mitch Maher (Plano's finest)
Scott Davis (Richardson's best)
RB
Jamario Thomas (1st year alone ranks high)
Bernard Jackson (Sportscenter highlighter)
Malcolm Jones (pound per pound - the best)
Kevin Galbreath (The start of the Okla raid)
Eric Pegram (Hillcrest High's best-Prop 48 Neb signee)
Patrick Cobbs (Isn't this his 8 year at UNT)
JaQuay Wilburn (Friday Night Lights star)
WR
Broderick McGrew (Combo of size & speed)
Johnny Quinn (Should make Mel's list in 06)
Tim Loftin (acrobatic who found the seams)
Pete Harvey (see Tim Loftin)
Marcus Camper (Samuell HS duel sports star)
Tony Cook (Excellent option QB at Plano)
Brian Smith (Juco standout)
Troy Redwine (huge games for the Mean Green)
OL
Phillip Armour (Home boy that stayed home)
Nick Zunica (Standout at SGP)
Scott Bowles (Wichita Falls recruit)
Jeff Bowles (Nice bloodlines)
DE
Willis Hudson (Member of Parker's state championship team)
Charlie Johnson (String Bean from South Oak Cliff)
Corbin Montgomery (Pick a last name)
Reggie Lewis (Tampa Bay Buc)
Adrian Awasson (Nice 6-3, 240 recruit)
Rayford Cooks (Dallas Pinkston claim to fame)
Tony Elliott (New Orleans Saint-Nice transfer)
DT
Walter Chapman (Pound per pound-the best ever at pos.)
Brandon Kennedy (Came in hyped-Did not dissapoint)
Stan Thomas (Another excellent Dennis Parker recruit)
Michael Priutt (came down to the wire for his services)
LB
Burks Washington (Port Arthur's top LB-UNT's also)
Byron Gross (Steady)
Lance White (See Byron Gross)
Brad Kassell (A Dickey find)
Cody Spencer (HS issues help him land at UNT)
Benny Cherry (Vernon terrior)
DB
Dhati Lewis (unheralded)
Wayne Walker (Cliff Harris of UNT secondary)
Walter Casey (#24)
Kim Phillips (Played much better than most Kim's)
Lawrence Ellis (very steady)
Mike Rhone (Austin Reagan star QB to UNT DB star)
Markeith Knowlton (Will be missed in 05)
D T Woodson (Sprinter speed from DeSoto high)
Anthony Bridges (Quietly very effective)
Sean Mayes (small and quick)
KR
Marcus Campus (hold your breath)
TE
Luis Silva (State Champion at Converse Judson)
Andy Blount (best hands of recent TE's)
Brian Waters (Pick a position)
P
John Baker (head of punter U)
Toby Gowin (Still making NFL $$$)
PK I Khoury (school record-great soccer player)
N Balzadua (Sp) Should be team MVP in 2005

If this is going to be "since 1975" then I have to almost totally agree with you, with the following adjustments/additions.

I would put Jordan Case above Ken Washington. I also consider Joe Stevenson (played the 1980 season....#10 on your program) worthy of being on the list of QB's.

DT/NT- How can we leave Rex Johnson (#56 on your program) off the list?

LB- Lester Harper- smallish but VERY MEAN.

DB- Jay Saad (#17 on your program) solid player from El Paso who was ALWAYS in position and ALWAYS around the ball.

Also, J.T. Smith (#44 on your program) probably the best safety to ever play at NT.

PK- Iseed Khoury