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That was pure STUPIDness on our part if that is true.

I disagree. The travel costs and TV times for a West Coast conference were damaging the program, as the Big West years proved. The Sun Belt has the right geography for UNT.

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At the risk of annoying my brother-in-law ( biggrin.gif ) and making this thread any longer.....

Although I'm not entirely happy with DD, I think Zook is a stupid choice. Although he's known as a good recruiter, and really didn't do that badly with Florida (except give up the lead several times) he's got a problem controlling himself. If you read the stories on him, one of the major reasons he was fired was b/c of an altercation at a frat party. Now..... my first question is why he would want to go to a frat party in the first place. My second question is if you can't control yourself, then how can you control a team? We have enough discipline problems on our team without bringing in a coach who needs to be babysat.

Ok, enough of this post. Just had to throw in my 2 cents.

shaft Community Regular

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Everyone on this thread is wrong.

Zook is a better overall coach than Dickey, but Dickey is the right fit for UNT.

DD works well with the support the University gives him

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What's 3-0 make you think?

That our rivals in the Sun Belt are weaker than I thought. At this point in the season, given our performance, I think our chances of winning another New Orleans Bowl against a decent OOC team are slim.

I'm not a Dickey basher. I'm not unhappy with being in the Belt. But let's not kid ourselves about this year's team.

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If you read the stories on him, one of the major reasons he was fired was b/c of an altercation at a frat party. Now..... my first question is why he would want to go to a frat party in the first place.

Did you read any of those stories? Here's one. The Florida AD, Jeremy Foley, told Zook to go to the fraternity to "avert a possible altercation between a group of football players and fraternity members."

Sounds like he didn't handle it very well, but he's not like that Iowa basketball coach who was partying hard with students.

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Yup, Zook screwed up while he was on the hot seat, but the fact is he's been on the hot seat from day one.

Dickey is a great fit at UNT, because he can work with the type of recruits UNT gets. And while it has taken him a while, he's been able to improve the types of recruits UNT gets.

And as far as this SBC's weak arguement goes; nearly every college sports authority would tell you this has been the SBC's strongest year. 3-0 shows that UNT has an edge and has been able to keep it.

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Did you read any of those stories? Here's one. The Florida AD, Jeremy Foley, told Zook to go to the fraternity to "avert a possible altercation between a group of football players and fraternity members."

Sounds like he didn't handle it very well, but he's not like that Iowa basketball coach who was partying hard with students.

Yes, I did read that story. And to follow that up, Zook later recanted his statement, saying that he was more involved than he previously admitted.

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Don't fool yourselves with the frat house story. Zook was canned because of constant pressure and calls for his head. Spurier is/was available, so the Admin looked for the first reason it could to dump Zook and make room for Spurier.

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No offense to all the posters on this thread, but can we just let this one die? I worked with the Florida program when he was there the first time. Zook is a bit on the moronic side when it comes to personality (but then again, so is Spurrier!). We don't want him. I think it's best (especially at mid-season) to totally support DD warts and all. If a better offer comes along for him in the off-season, then we can talk!

Honestly, reading this thread makes me forget which message board I am reading!! blink.gif

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