When the hell did we sign this guy?

[ntmeangreen11]

I have been checked out on football since November more or less and was looking up our 2025 class out of boredom only to find we signed a nationally top 40 ranked running back? Caleb Hawkins received a 89 ranking from 247, making him our second or third highest ranked commit ever I’m surprised there’s not been discussion on him. He was given a rating on January 27th, kudos to 247 for sticking to their guns and giving the rating they saw fit, not considering his offer list in which we were the only FBS school to offer. Competition be damned he is gliding around players on his tape, pretty excited about him.

https://247sports.com/player/caleb-hawkins-46152362/

https://www.hudl.com/profile/16377856/Caleb-Hawkins

[97and03]

Did you see the offer list?

[jtm0097]

He was the best athlete on the field. However, this was class 3A ball in Oklahoma. A lot of small slow unathletic guys he was running against. I'm not saying he's bad, just temper the expectations. For comparison, On 3 had him as the 29th best recruit in Oklahoma.

[GreenEggs&Ham™]

Maybe he was recruited to play DB?

Pauls Valley, OK looked talented and he had a big run against them. He looks smooth and balanced when running the ball. 

 

[GrandGreen]

2 hours ago, jtm0097 said:

He was the best athlete on the field. However, this was class 3A ball in Oklahoma. A lot of small slow unathletic guys he was running against. I'm not saying he's bad, just temper the expectations. For comparison, On 3 had him as the 29th best recruit in Oklahoma.

Didn't NT have a little luck with another small town Oklahoma football player?  

[jtm0097]

2 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

Didn't NT have a little luck with another small town Oklahoma football player?  

Yes, we did. Also, have had our fair share of busts from Oklahoma.

[UNTLifer]

3 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

Didn't NT have a little luck with another small town Oklahoma football player?  

Tecumseh, OK and Elkhart, TX produced some pretty good ball players at the RB position for us.  Locust Grove, OK for a QB, Llano, TX for a LB, New Boston, TX for a CB, etc.  sometimes they are worth a  shot  

 

[jtm0097]

Here is a rundown of players from 24/7 since 2016. Of the 13 players listed, only 5 were decent players. The rest were busts. I know we had a few great guys from there. I do hope that Caleb is another successful player from Oklahoma. There is talent in that state. Patrick Cobbs, Mason Fine, Rico Bussey, and Jake Roberts were certainly great in their time here. 

Mason Fine- NT Legend/ Future HOFer

Rico Bussey- Top Tier WR (even though he left us for Hawaii)

Chandler Anthony- Bust (Played in 14 games mostly on special teams over 3 seasons)

Jason Pirtle- Solid TE over 4 seasons here

Derrick Shaw- Bust

Caleb Colvin- Solid DL

Daxton Byers- Bust

Will Kuehne- Bust 

Jacobi Johnson- Bust

Jake Roberts- Great TE, but was transferring to Baylor (231 yards and a TD) and OU (112 yards and 2 TD) worth it? 

Bryce Drummond- Bust (But he will be rich one day so who cares)

Kelvin Greene- Bust (Not sure if he even made it on campus)

Dietrich Moore- Bust

Edited Saturday at 10:55 PM by jtm0097

[THOR]

man, Roberts really effed up leaving...didn't do shit anywhere else

[DeepGreen]

Oklahoma was always a good source for big bodied lineman.  If I recall, many came from junior colleges.

[ntmeangreen11]

My point was that despite the offer list 247 rated him this highly giving their honest evaluation. Of the next 30 running backs ranked below him, 26 are committed to power teams including Tennessee A&M Michigan penn state USC. Obviously they see something in him to give him that kind of ranking. 

[Jason Howeth]

23 hours ago, ntmeangreen11 said:

My point was that despite the offer list 247 rated him this highly giving their honest evaluation. Of the next 30 running backs ranked below him, 26 are committed to power teams including Tennessee A&M Michigan penn state USC. Obviously they see something in him to give him that kind of ranking. 

I see where you're going with this, but I think what we're all saying is that (A) recruiting grades rarely translate into on-field talent in college athletics; and (B) this is probably more of an error in ranking and evaluation than an under-the-radar diamond in the rough. To be clear, I hope with all hope that you're right, and all of us skeptics are proven very wrong. But that's how we see it at the moment. 

[UNTLifer]

He has two left feet causing the bigger schools to back away.

[MCMLXXX]

3 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

He has two left feet causing the bigger schools to back away.

You Serious, Clark?

[ntmeangreen11]

It's just crazy to me that if a kid gets an offer that may or may not be committable from a low tier P4 school, one of the 300+ they've sent out by summer that matters more than a non biased evaluation. 247sports makes bank from the P4 schools, I would wager Meangreen247 has 30 subscribers at most, it does them no favors to rank him above so many P4 commits. He's 6'2, 200 with extremely impressive agility, I am really high on both him and Tyler Brown although Brown may need a year or two to put some weight on assuming he will play DB.