Jace Herl?

[meangreenfaninno]

Thoughts on him replacing Hodge?

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Jase Herl was hired to the Mean Green men's basketball coaching staff on April 28, 2023 to be on head coach Ross Hodge's first staff. Herl enters the 2024-25 season with 14 years of coaching experience including one season as the interim head coach at Colorado State.

In Herl's first season on the Mean Green staff UNT won 19 total games and reached the second round of the National Invitation Tournament. North Texas posted a 10-8 league record In what was its first season in the American Athletic Conference. The 10 league wins and .555 league winning percentage were both the best by a first-year UNT men's basketball staff. Herl recruited and helped mentor guard Jason Edwards to first-team all-conference honors as he scored 650 total points, which was the fifth-most in a single season in program history. 

UNT in 2023-24 overcame significant injuries to three starters and had notable wins over LSU, Memphis, Northern Iowa and SMU. The Mean Green featured the league's best and the nation's No. 12 scoring defense as they held opponents to 63.8 points per game. Offensively, North Texas led the league in 3-point shooting as they shot 37.7 percent from deep. It was the nation's 14th best 3-point field goal percentage. 

The Mean Green earned an at-large bid to the 2024 NIT where they defeated LSU on the road, 84-77, in the first round. UNT was the only team in the NCAA Tournament or NIT led by a head coach in his first season as a NCAA head coach.

He joined UNT after five seasons at Missouri State where he helped guide the Bears to 17+ wins in each of the last three seasons including 23 wins in 2021-22. 

During his time with the Bears, Herl helped mentor 15 All-MVC performers. Missouri State finished as Missouri Valley runners-up in 2022 and in third place in 2019 and 2021. They earned a trip to the NIT in 2022. 

Missouri State, similar to North Texas, had been one of the top defenses in the nation over the previous seasons. The Bears held opponents to just 63.2 points per game his final season on staff.

From 2016-18 he was an assistant coach at Colorado State and served as the Rams' interim head coach in 2018 at just 30 years old. He led CSU to a 90-78 win over San Jose State in his first game as interim head coach.

Herl also spent time as a DII and junior college coach. 

In 2015-16 he was an assistant coach at South Plains College in Levelland, Texas, where he helped lead the Texans to a 21-9 overall record and 12-4 record in conference. 

Prior to South Plains, Herl was the inaugural head coach at Northwest Kansas Tech College in his hometown of Goodland, Kansas. In three seasons as the Mavericks head coach, he led them to 56 total wins. His 56 wins were the most by all active NJCAA head coaches under the age of the 30 at the time. The Mavericks went 32-5 at home during his three years.

While at Northwest Kansas Tech, Herl coached future Dallas Maverick guard Gian Clavell who transferred to Colorado State and played for Hodge while he was on the Rams' staff. 

Herl's coaching career began at his alma mater Colorado Mesa, where he graduated from in 2010. Herl served as an assistant coach after graduating and helped guide Colorado Mesa to the 2011 NCAA DII Tournament. 

Jase Herl Coaching History
2023-present: North Texas Assistant Coach
2018-23: Missouri State Associate Head Coach and Assistant Coach
2016-18: Colorado State Interim Head Coach and Assistant Coach
2015-16: South Plains College Assistant Coach
2013-15: Northwest Kansas Tech Head Coach
2010-13: Colorado Mesa Assistant Coach
 

https://meangreensports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/jase-herl/843

Edited Tuesday at 05:20 PM by meangreenfaninno

[SUMG]

No one ever mentions him.....but I think Coach Estelle would be the first guy they'd look at......if we hired from within. 

[UNTLifer]

Time for Jared to put pen to paper and lock Hodge up.

[untjim1995]

5 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Time for Jared to put pen to paper and lock Hodge up.

I'd imagine that this entire mess will lead Hodge to greener pastures somewhere else after this season ends. And we will see another pilfering of the roster for the Power schools to buy off our talent. At least in the past, we could sell those who were still staying that we actually "cared" about the program. Not now. We just told every single coach, player, recruit, and recruit's parents that we don't give two $hits about winning anything important.

[Censored by Laurie]

20 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Time for Jared to put pen to paper and lock Hodge up.

We can’t pay more than a Big 12 program, a Big 12 program will consistently draw 3-4 times our average attendance and a Big 12 program doesn’t bump a basketball game for a fajita mixer. 
 

Hodge may love it here and really feel committed to building this program, but we’ve done nothing to show it’s reciprocal 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

6 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

We can’t pay more than a Big 12 program, a Big 12 program will consistently draw 3-4 times our average attendance and a Big 12 program doesn’t bump a basketball game for a fajita mixer. 
 

Hodge may love it here and really feel committed to building this program, but we’ve done nothing to show it’s reciprocal 

We haven't reciprocated only because we're phucking incompetent idiots. 

[GMG_Dallas]

2 hours ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

We haven't reciprocated only because we're phucking incompetent idiots. 

People laugh about the basketball school stuff but what could we pay our basketball coaches if we lowered the underperforming football salary pool?

For those against lowering the football salary pool in favor of basketball, consider this: how upset would you be if Eric Morris was hired away today and how does that compare to the potential of losing Hodge?

[NorthTexasWeLove]

56 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

People laugh about the basketball school stuff but what could we pay our basketball coaches if we lowered the underperforming football salary pool?

For those against lowering the football salary pool in favor of basketball, consider this: how upset would you be if Eric Morris was hired away today and how does that compare to the potential of losing Hodge?

I can't possibly imagine why people laugh at that. 

[NT80]

I'd rather replace Jared with him!

[GoMeanGreen1999]

5 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

People laugh about the basketball school stuff but what could we pay our basketball coaches if we lowered the underperforming football salary pool?

For those against lowering the football salary pool in favor of basketball, consider this: how upset would you be if Eric Morris was hired away today and how does that compare to the potential of losing Hodge?

I have been saying for the last two years we should do this, but people tell me I am crazy and then ask me if we want to become UTA.  I'd be fine like Gonzaga and only have basketball.

[NorthTexasWeLove]

9 minutes ago, GoMeanGreen1999 said:

I have been saying for the last two years we should do this, but people tell me I am crazy and then ask me if we want to become UTA.  I'd be fine like Gonzaga and only have basketball.

Been drumming the same drum. However, we do not need to cut football. We just need to cut their funding. Frankly, and some will hate this absolute, they're far more of an embarrassment than they are a highlight on our University. Further, the reputation of UNT football among high school football coaches is very poor and that gets communicated to their players, especially to the ones with options. Speaking of options, go flex flexbone, cut football spending and still be competitive. 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

6 hours ago, meangreenfaninno said:

Thoughts on him replacing Hodge?

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Jase Herl was hired to the Mean Green men's basketball coaching staff on April 28, 2023 to be on head coach Ross Hodge's first staff. Herl enters the 2024-25 season with 14 years of coaching experience including one season as the interim head coach at Colorado State.

In Herl's first season on the Mean Green staff UNT won 19 total games and reached the second round of the National Invitation Tournament. North Texas posted a 10-8 league record In what was its first season in the American Athletic Conference. The 10 league wins and .555 league winning percentage were both the best by a first-year UNT men's basketball staff. Herl recruited and helped mentor guard Jason Edwards to first-team all-conference honors as he scored 650 total points, which was the fifth-most in a single season in program history. 

UNT in 2023-24 overcame significant injuries to three starters and had notable wins over LSU, Memphis, Northern Iowa and SMU. The Mean Green featured the league's best and the nation's No. 12 scoring defense as they held opponents to 63.8 points per game. Offensively, North Texas led the league in 3-point shooting as they shot 37.7 percent from deep. It was the nation's 14th best 3-point field goal percentage. 

The Mean Green earned an at-large bid to the 2024 NIT where they defeated LSU on the road, 84-77, in the first round. UNT was the only team in the NCAA Tournament or NIT led by a head coach in his first season as a NCAA head coach.

He joined UNT after five seasons at Missouri State where he helped guide the Bears to 17+ wins in each of the last three seasons including 23 wins in 2021-22. 

During his time with the Bears, Herl helped mentor 15 All-MVC performers. Missouri State finished as Missouri Valley runners-up in 2022 and in third place in 2019 and 2021. They earned a trip to the NIT in 2022. 

Missouri State, similar to North Texas, had been one of the top defenses in the nation over the previous seasons. The Bears held opponents to just 63.2 points per game his final season on staff.

From 2016-18 he was an assistant coach at Colorado State and served as the Rams' interim head coach in 2018 at just 30 years old. He led CSU to a 90-78 win over San Jose State in his first game as interim head coach.

Herl also spent time as a DII and junior college coach. 

In 2015-16 he was an assistant coach at South Plains College in Levelland, Texas, where he helped lead the Texans to a 21-9 overall record and 12-4 record in conference. 

Prior to South Plains, Herl was the inaugural head coach at Northwest Kansas Tech College in his hometown of Goodland, Kansas. In three seasons as the Mavericks head coach, he led them to 56 total wins. His 56 wins were the most by all active NJCAA head coaches under the age of the 30 at the time. The Mavericks went 32-5 at home during his three years.

While at Northwest Kansas Tech, Herl coached future Dallas Maverick guard Gian Clavell who transferred to Colorado State and played for Hodge while he was on the Rams' staff. 

Herl's coaching career began at his alma mater Colorado Mesa, where he graduated from in 2010. Herl served as an assistant coach after graduating and helped guide Colorado Mesa to the 2011 NCAA DII Tournament. 

Jase Herl Coaching History
2023-present: North Texas Assistant Coach
2018-23: Missouri State Associate Head Coach and Assistant Coach
2016-18: Colorado State Interim Head Coach and Assistant Coach
2015-16: South Plains College Assistant Coach
2013-15: Northwest Kansas Tech Head Coach
2010-13: Colorado Mesa Assistant Coach
 

https://meangreensports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/jase-herl/843

To the point, if Ross leaves and I'm Jared I'm not letting him leave until I sit down and talk to him about Jase and his readiness, candidly. 

[NT80]

58 minutes ago, GoMeanGreen1999 said:

I have been saying for the last two years we should do this, but people tell me I am crazy and then ask me if we want to become UTA.  I'd be fine like Gonzaga and only have basketball.

Seriously?   You want to be like UTA?   You don't start as Gonzaga, you start as UTA.   

Why don't we simply join the PAC and we can play Gonzaga twice a year??   ....and Boise, and Wash St, and Oregon St, and SDSU, etc...

[NorthTexasWeLove]

Just now, NT80 said:

Seriously?   You want to be like UTA?   You don't start as Gonzaga, you start as UTA.   

Why don't we simply join the PAC and we can play Gonzaga twice a year??   ....and Boise, and Wash St, and Oregon St, and SDSU, etc...

Yes... we don't need to exterminate football. Just focus our monetary efforts on basketball... remember.. athletics is the front porch of a university, right? RIGHT? Well, do you want your front porch to be manicured and we'll taken care of? Or do you want it to look like some bumpkin trailer trash bullshit in West Virginia? 

[Censored by Laurie]

3 hours ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

I can't possibly imagine why people laugh at that. 

did you not see the plea to come support the team thread in the football forum? there were more excuses and "I only like football" posts than anything else. 

there's what...50 regular posters here and even convincing the local ones to drive an hour max for a game is a non-starter.

this is a big reason why I keep saying enjoy what we have while we have it...because largely we don't deserve it. 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

Just now, Censored by Laurie said:

did you not see the plea to come support the team thread in the football forum? there were more excuses and "I only like football" posts than anything else. 

there's what...50 regular posters here and even convincing the local ones to drive an hour max for a game is a non-starter.

this is a big reason why I keep saying enjoy what we have while we have it...because largely we don't deserve it. 

I know that's why you said enjoy it....of course, someone argued with me about the meaning. 

I'm a football coach that loves competition. I'm also a business man that understands very easy to understand economics. 

I like basketball because of the pace and the competitiveness. I played freshman year in HS. I knew I was outgunned and outmatched and that football, baseball, and track is where I needed to focus my energy. To flip it, we are outgunned on the football field and simple economics via elementary math and standard statistics suggests that the best way to clean up our front porch is to focus our energy on basketball. To not understand that and agree and rally around that makes that person a buffoon and subpar alum. Just, facts. 

[Censored by Laurie]

4 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

People laugh about the basketball school stuff but what could we pay our basketball coaches if we lowered the underperforming football salary pool?

For those against lowering the football salary pool in favor of basketball, consider this: how upset would you be if Eric Morris was hired away today and how does that compare to the potential of losing Hodge?

bUt ThiS iS tEXas aNd I lOve foOtBaLl!1!

[GoMeanGreen1999]

2 hours ago, NT80 said:

Seriously?   You want to be like UTA?   You don't start as Gonzaga, you start as UTA.   

Why don't we simply join the PAC and we can play Gonzaga twice a year??   ....and Boise, and Wash St, and Oregon St, and SDSU, etc...

Nope.  Don't want to be like UTA.  But that is choice.  Gonzaga certainly isn't and they had to start somewhere.  They were not Gonzaga when they started.  I am fine with keeping football for those who can't get past getting rid of it, but just move most of the money over to basketball were we actually win consistently.  When Hodge leaves, three of the last 4 basketball coaches will have been hired away.  When was the last time that happened in football?

[NorthTexasWeLove]

14 minutes ago, GoMeanGreen1999 said:

Nope.  Don't want to be like UTA.  But that is choice.  Gonzaga certainly isn't and they had to start somewhere.  They were not Gonzaga when they started.  I am fine with keeping football for those who can't get past getting rid of it, but just move most of the money over to basketball were we actually win consistently.  When Hodge leaves, three of the last 4 basketball coaches will have been hired away.  When was the last time that happened in football?

Answer: Never. 

[GMG_Dallas]

1 hour ago, GoMeanGreen1999 said:

I have been saying for the last two years we should do this, but people tell me I am crazy and then ask me if we want to become UTA.  I'd be fine like Gonzaga and only have basketball.

Spending a couple hundred thousand less on football doesn't mean dropping down to UTA. It's just taking from an underperforming program and giving it to a program that's doing well. What really seals the deal for me is the status of football postseason activities. You either sit at home, play a meaningless bowl with a makeshift roster, or go undefeated in hopes of making the 12 team playoffs. There is no at large hope in football. In basketball, we could have a great season with some big OOC wins, make the tourney, and make a run. The odds are against us either way but at least in basketball there's a chance. 

[GMG_Dallas]

The reality is, football is way more expensive. Being competitive requires an unreasonable amount of money and even then, you're likely not competing for a national championship. Current spending has us struggling to go .500 in football while winning 19+ for 8 straight seasons in basketball. A slightly bigger budget in basketball could almost guarantee plucking just about any low-major and some mid-major head coach if Hodge were to go. For example, Akron's coach has made 3 of the last 4 NCAA tourneys, 4 straight 20+ wins and made the Sweet 16 and round of 32 with Ohio 15ish years ago. He only made the tourney once with Illinois so they booted him but he's shown he can win at the mid-major level. Problem for us is he makes about the same or more than Hodge. If we can't outspend Akron, there's a problem in my opinion. 

[BigChiefGMG]

Relax man you’re making wayyyy too much sense for people in authority to comprehend!!  Couldn’t agree more 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

29 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Spending a couple hundred thousand less on football doesn't mean dropping down to UTA. It's just taking from an underperforming program and giving it to a program that's doing well. What really seals the deal for me is the status of football postseason activities. You either sit at home, play a meaningless bowl with a makeshift roster, or go undefeated in hopes of making the 12 team playoffs. There is no at large hope in football. In basketball, we could have a great season with some big OOC wins, make the tourney, and make a run. The odds are against us either way but at least in basketball there's a chance. 

Precisely. College football has deemed itself absolutely worthless for programs like us. 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

16 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

The reality is, football is way more expensive. Being competitive requires an unreasonable amount of money and even then, you're likely not competing for a national championship. Current spending has us struggling to go .500 in football while winning 19+ for 8 straight seasons in basketball. A slightly bigger budget in basketball could almost guarantee plucking just about any low-major and some mid-major head coach if Hodge were to go. For example, Akron's coach has made 3 of the last 4 NCAA tourneys, 4 straight 20+ wins and made the Sweet 16 and round of 32 with Ohio 15ish years ago. He only made the tourney once with Illinois so they booted him but he's shown he can win at the mid-major level. Problem for us is he makes about the same or more than Hodge. If we can't outspend Akron, there's a problem in my opinion. 

Make these points to our mouth breathing football fan only brethren. 

[GMG_Dallas]

Just want us to take advantage of our most successful revenue sport so we can become relevant in something people care about.