“Student Athletic” in college sports. JJ Watts’ take on the subject.

[DeepGreen]

Spot on!

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[Mean Green 93-98]

I agree with everything he says except, "Run [college athletics] as [a business]."

The thing is, I don't see any way we're ever getting that toothpaste back in the tube.  Tighter regulation of collectives is about the best we can hope for.

[rcade]

I agree with J.J. Watt that it's wrong for the athletes whose sports make no money and attract few NIL deals to have to travel great distances for conference games.

It would be a better system if schools could have a conference affiliation for football and basketball and another for the rest of the sports.

[GrandGreen]

12 hours ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

I agree with everything he says except, "Run [college athletics] as [a business]."

The thing is, I don't see any way we're ever getting that toothpaste back in the tube.  Tighter regulation of collectives is about the best we can hope for.

Run it like a business and over half the D1 football teams would be gone.  Unless you consider mandated student fees as income, few outside of the SEC actually have more revenue than expenses. 

[GMG_Dallas]

6 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

Run it like a business and over half the D1 football teams would be gone.  Unless you consider mandated student fees as income, few outside of the SEC actually have more revenue than expenses. 

If you ran the NCAA as a business, you'd be giving all d1 programs an equal cut of media revenue (with respect to each sport). Then you could actually grow each program to be successful on their own right. McDonald's didn't become what it is today by focusing all their efforts on flagship locations at the expense of small market stores.

[GrandGreen]

5 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

If you ran the NCAA as a business, you'd be giving all d1 programs an equal cut of media revenue (with respect to each sport). Then you could actually grow each program to be successful on their own right. McDonald's didn't become what it is today by focusing all their efforts on flagship locations at the expense of small market stores.

I didn't know all businesses now or ever got consistent government funding. 

I would be for most of anything that leveled the playing field with more equal funding, but i doubt Alabama, Oklahoma and Texas Universities are going to give up a cent to support lower tier teams.  

Socialism exists to an extent in the NCAA, with limits on number of scholarships, number of coaches, non-NIL financial support for players, etc.   However, the current trend with the increasing impact of NIL, which as evolved into paying players is highly capitalistic. 

Unless there are major unexpected changes in the NIL rules, I think the number of teams attempting to play D1 will dwindle down to something akin to the NFL with about thirty members.   

[GMG_Dallas]

2 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

I didn't know all businesses now or ever got consistent government funding. 

I would be for most of anything that leveled the playing field with more equal funding, but i doubt Alabama, Oklahoma and Texas Universities are going to give up a cent to support lower tier teams.  

Socialism exists to an extent in the NCAA, with limits on number of scholarships, number of coaches, non-NIL financial support for players, etc.   However, the current trend with the increasing impact of NIL, which as evolved into paying players is highly capitalistic. 

Unless there are major unexpected changes in the NIL rules, I think the number of teams attempting to play D1 will dwindle down to something akin to the NFL with about thirty members.   

If you want to run the NCAA as a business, the model exists in the NFL, NBA, and so on. Media dollars are split evenly, there's a salary cap, a salary floor to ensure money goes to the players as intended, contracts, structured free agency, and so on. Pretty simple. I don't love it, but it's better than what we have.

[TIgreen01]

On 3/26/2025 at 3:23 PM, GMG_Dallas said:

If you want to run the NCAA as a business, the model exists in the NFL, NBA, and so on. Media dollars are split evenly, there's a salary cap, a salary floor to ensure money goes to the players as intended, contracts, structured free agency, and so on. Pretty simple. I don't love it, but it's better than what we have.

You are correct.  However, what's the point?  There is no reason for it to exist when we already have the NFL.

[GMG_Dallas]

12 minutes ago, TIgreen01 said:

You are correct.  However, what's the point?  There is no reason for it to exist when we already have the NFL.

Player development. An 18 year old isn't ready for the NFL. Most aren't ready for the NBA or MLB either. I'd imagine your average pro team doesn't want to deal with developing kids.