Official - Hodge to West Virginia

[NT93]

20 minutes ago, MrAlien said:

This should be the top mid-major coaching vacancy in college basketball. 

It was until administration let the world know where athletics stand at UNT.

[untjim1995]

50 minutes ago, NT93 said:

It was until administration let the world know where athletics stand at UNT.

Obviously, somebody will want the job and the salary that comes with it. 
 

But good luck on that recruiting front at getting AAC quality talent here. That’s gonna be a miracle. I fear a deep drop backwards after this. That’s never going away any time soon during recruiting battles. BTW, this is gonna hurt football recruiting too. 

[GrandGreen]

2 hours ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Yeah? What is there to do in Denton? Like, really? Every place is all the same... bowling, top golf, movies, restaurant? Every place is filled with the same ole overpriced bullshit. 

You should save a lot on travel with that belief.  Denton, New Orleans, New York, San Francisco, Jackson Hole, all the same not to mention Europe, Asia, the Caribbean, Antarctica, etc. 

Most places have multinational companies, the usual hotel and restaurant chains, but for example; I see a lot of difference in Dallas and Fort Worth and they basically border each other.  As far as overpriced bs, that depends on the experience and what you think important. 

[FirefightnRick]

3 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

You should save a lot on travel with that belief.  Denton, New Orleans, New York, San Francisco, Jackson Hole, all the same not to mention Europe, Asia, the Caribbean, Antarctica, etc. 

Most places have multinational companies, the usual hotel and restaurant chains, but for example; I see a lot of difference in Dallas and Fort Worth and they basically border each other.  As far as overpriced bs, that depends on the experience and what you think important. 

I think the advantage we have, if there is any advantage at all, is access to a mass population and the opportunity to play at home?  And that’s what we have to offer high school kids, mostly.  Which is why I have always felt we have a really good chance to build a dominant softball team due to access to phenomenal local talent, and the limited local softball schools we compete against for recruits(2)?  But of course, in this era of professional college sports the HS kid is getting crapped on, especially in basketball.  

But any advantage we may gain we piss away every time we hire yet another apathetic employee making the decisions for the entire university.

So now I’ve chosen to spend my free time and hard earned money….

….in my front yard, working on the Dirty Blond and travel.
 

Rick 

 

Edited Thursday at 03:15 AM by FirefightnRick

[GMGGWBG]

5 hours ago, 97and03 said:

Hodge did a solid job, but had not yet equaled his predecessor. Somewhat risky hire for WVU - and we are being honest, only Wren would have made this hire. I don’t think any other P4 AD takes that risk without at least an NIT championship. 
We will survive. 

They are skeptical about this hire, but think Wren Baker is a genius at WVU.  Homerun hire after homerun hire.

[BigWillie]

21 minutes ago, FirefightnRick said:

I think the advantage we have, if there is any advantage at all, is access to a mass population and the opportunity to play at home?  And that’s what we have to offer high school kids, mostly.  Which is why I have always felt we have a really good chance to build a dominant softball team due to access to phenomenal local talent, and the limited local softball schools we compete against for recruits(2)?  But of course, in this era of professional college sports the HS kid is getting crapped on, especially in basketball.  

Of course, any advantage we may gain we piss away every time we hire yet another apathetic employee making the decisions for the entire university.

So now I’ve chosen to spend my free time and hard earned money….

….in my front yard, work on the Dirty Blond and travel.
 

Rick 

 

Rick! Same thing I am feeling now. My priority has shifted to fishing!

[FirefightnRick]

24 minutes ago, BigWillie said:

Rick! Same thing I am feeling now. My priority has shifted to fishing!

 

Rick

[NM Green]

I don’t know. I’ve been enjoying this run knowing sports is cyclical. A 6 year run is great anywhere and at North Texas it’s as rare as a cool July day in Texas. It’s time to finish this season strong and bring home more hardware. We’re still playing hoops in North Texas in April. 

I think we’ll attract some talented leaders and players. It might not be GM and Hodge good at the front or it could be. Look at Utah State who kept the success train rolling. New Mexico and Colorado State have crazy turnover too and are facing fast rebuilds for their still hungry fanbases. Add UNT to that list. There are some good job openings for rising talent. Denton, Albuquerque and Fort Collins all open at the same time, well not the Rams anymore. 

I am not that down on Jared on the hiring front because he is more business man than marketing mogul. A good quality in businessmen is an eye for talent. He knows what has been built here. I doubt we ever have a Superpiss embarrassment again like we did this week. Go to work. Get the guy. Keep growing the brand. Check out UCSD, Grand Canyon, Waco and Lubbock please. 

We are North Texas. We are built with grit for challenge. Win it all baby. 

GMG

 

[Coach Andy Mac]

 

[BigWillie]

1 hour ago, Coach Andy Mac said:

 

He had me until that last sentence. "Making decisions based on money". Its always about money.

[NT80]

20 minutes ago, BigWillie said:

He had me until that last sentence. "Making decisions based on money". Its always about money.

Same as the player$ these days.   

The main issue most G5's have is that not many have legacy people on staff or in the school.  Generations of families don't come and grow up wanting to be only at UNT.   Thus, it's a fight to keep people here when money draws them to go to anyplace....even West Virginia.  

[untjim1995]

3 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Same as the player$ these days.   

The main issue most G5's have is that not many have legacy people on staff or in the school.  Generations of families don't come and grow up wanting to be only at UNT.   Thus, it's a fight to keep people here when money draws them to go to anyplace....even West Virginia.  

Its why its unsustainable. The reality is that two things need to happen, although one is much more likely.

1.) Create a salary cap and contracts for players for ALL Division 1 programs. 

This will not happen, not for the entirety of all Division 1. So...

2.) Let the big NFL/NBA lite programs create their own setup. Let the B1G/SEC/whatever else/Big East (hoops only) go do their own thing. Make them compete with each other only. Let the rest of us who do not have that kind of money, fan bases, media, or conference affiliation have our own setup. Let us compete with like-to-like programs that allow our teams to have the REAL opportunity to win a title, especially in football, where the G5 level of play is the ONLY level of football that doesn't crown a national champion. Its beyond stupid--and I will say again, unsustainable.

I quit college football about 3 years ago. I couldn't stand the cost/benefit for being a G5 fan. The time and money aren't there for you when you truly analyze it. The players and coaches aren't even sticking around for more than a season or two. At least with hoops, you really only need a couple of dudes and a solid coach and a run can be made. But then you have places like ours that decide that they want to run the damn thing like the owner in the movie Major League. So now, the reality is that we will not only be a form of a JUCO going forward for the Power conferences still, but we also now have the new albatross of having this effing fiasco hanging around our necks, as if the reputation wasn't bad enough. 

This entire setup was already on a slippery slope...and then we, as an institution, decided to go and pour grease all down the slope. If this entire thing doesn't end up a complete dumpster fire over the next few years, it will be a damn miracle. 

[kingwoodgreen]

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[rcade]

This sucks, but losing coaches because of success is better than firing them for failure.

Can't say I'm excited to go back to square one again. For a while when somebody yells "North" I'm not going to say "Texas."

[Glory to the Green]

Do we know which coaches he’s taking with him?   I’m assuming Forte and Herl….maybe even Shaw. 

[GrandGreen]

10 hours ago, Glory to the Green said:

Do we know which coaches he’s taking with him?   I’m assuming Forte and Herl….maybe even Shaw. 

All I hope, any new coach is going to want to select his staff.  

[Glory to the Green]

13 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

All I hope, any new coach is going to want to select his staff.  

I get that.  I hope we hire someone who has been a HC before…at any collegiate level (JUCO, D2, D1). This is a big hire for us. We have to get it right to keep this train rolling.