Texas State to PAC 12

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[GMG_Dallas]

On 3/1/2025 at 12:08 AM, NT80 said:

 

He mentions Texas is an important area for several reasons and implies more than one school. 

St. Marys offers another great basketball program along with Gonzaga.   

This may get interesting as we're in the "possible" category now along with UTSA....

I'd imagine any Texas school would want at least one travel partner but they don't help the conference's basketball prowess any. Neither does UTSA. I can see us filling in that other Texas slot to be a travel partner with TX State while being a perfect fit with the other basketball programs. 

Edited Wednesday at 12:53 AM by GMG_Dallas

[DeepGreen]

Would a UNT move to the new PAC be a step up for UNT?  Travel would be a problem, and personally, I like the AAC just like it is.  As long as the conference keeps the current members.

[greenminer]

2 hours ago, DeepGreen said:

Would a UNT move to the new PAC be a step up for UNT?  Travel would be a problem, and personally, I like the AAC just like it is.  As long as the conference keeps the current members.

I liked the AAC coming into this new lineup but, man! This has been an uphill battle.

Fighting for our lives to get NCAA bids, playing in questionable bowls.

It's not what I thought it would be.

[NT80]

4 hours ago, DeepGreen said:

Would a UNT move to the new PAC be a step up for UNT?  Travel would be a problem, and personally, I like the AAC just like it is.  As long as the conference keeps the current members.

PAC will be the best G5 conference overall power-wise, especially with additions of Gonzaga and St. Mary’s in basketball.  

The key will be their media contract valuation, due the end of this month.  Then we can compare $ to $.

The AAC has deadweight in Tulsa, Charlotte, and Rice. 

[keith]

On 3/5/2025 at 10:02 AM, DeepGreen said:

Would a UNT move to the new PAC be a step up for UNT?  Travel would be a problem, and personally, I like the AAC just like it is.  As long as the conference keeps the current members.

We currently travel to the east coast (New York, Pennsylvania, Maryland, North Carolina, Florida - Army and/or Navy only for FB).  Is that really any worse than traveling to the west coast (California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Utah)?  Also, it's not like we play every game away and don't have any home games.  

The other arguments about going west are late games and the impact on the student-athlete experience.  There are daytime kick-offs too.  One late game or two a season isn't going to kill us.  In terms of the student-athlete experience and if it's really detrimental, then we should start seeing athletes abandon these far-flung conferences that make them travel across the country for more regionally-based conferences and universities.  I mean that would be the true litmus test if it really is bad for the student-athletes.  So far, I haven't seen any defections of consequence.  My guess is they are fine with the experience or at least are willing to suck it up for a few years to play against the best competition they can.  

[Matt from A700]

Bring back the Southwest Conference with the best of the rest from AAC/SBC/MWC.

Us, UTSA, TXST, Memphis, Tulane, ULL in the East. UNLV, Nevada, UTEP, New Mexico, Air Force, and bring Colorado State over when the PAC media deal doesn't amount to anything.

Wichita State, St. Louis, Grand Canyon, and St. Mary's or San Francisco as non-football members.

[DeepGreen]

Why the love for ULL?

[MDH]

13 hours ago, DeepGreen said:

Why the love for ULL?

Because they effectively raised their brand by dropping the 2nd L, just like TSUSM did this by dropping SM. It's an illusion of quality and power for the current members, some of who are "flagship" universities, or have aspirations to be playing with the likes.

[wardly]

On 3/5/2025 at 1:40 PM, NT80 said:

PAC will be the best G5 conference overall power-wise, especially with additions of Gonzaga and St. Mary’s in basketball.  

The key will be their media contract valuation, due the end of this month.  Then we can compare $ to $.

The AAC has deadweight in Tulsa, Charlotte, and Rice. 

Every conference has dead weight. If these 3 were removed then they would be replaced by 3 more, maybe even us.

[Matt from A700]

On 3/6/2025 at 7:23 PM, DeepGreen said:

Why the love for ULL?

Regional fit that has some good programs in outdated but sizeable venues.

Also, I think if we have to replace programs in the AAC, we should aim for teams with passionate fanbases, not large TV markets. Those quirky college towns give the league some flavor and personality, something a random conference like The American needs.

[Matt from A700]

12 minutes ago, wardly said:

Every conference has dead weight. If these 3 were removed then they would be replaced by 3 more, maybe even us.

I would take Texas State, James Madison, and Liberty over Rice, Tulsa, and Charlotte in a heartbeat.

[Mean Green 93-98]

3 hours ago, Matt from A700 said:

I would take Texas State, James Madison, and Liberty over Rice, Tulsa, and Charlotte in a heartbeat.

Man, how things change.  15 or more years ago, that would have sounded like the most bizarre statement ever uttered.  Rice and Tulsa were light years ahead of us, and we dreamed of being in a conference with them.

No doubt James Madison and Liberty have been on a very good trajectory, but would being in a conference with them really excite the masses?