Rice (2/11/25)

GMG_Dallas · 2025-02-13T00:03:38Z

16 minutes ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

Vice is probably the farthest from touching the court in any meaningful minutes. There is a reason why Hodge was hired as a head coach, and none of us are on the floor coaching. Why put totally inexperienced guys on the court in meaningful minutes unless there is a brutal string of injuries? It doesn't make sense, there's a reason why the guys who are playing in crunch time and throughout the game are there because they have the higher level of experience and we need to be winning, not playing around with freshmen. We don't blow teams out either...

Some awful takes, once again.

Why? Because in our league as it stands, the regular season means little unless you have a great OOC record and/or are on track to be undefeated. Our season is made in March. We either win the auto bid and keep playing meaningful basketball, get invited to a decent tournament like the NIT, or go home. There are no true at-large hopes. We should be prepping our roster so that anybody is ready to get on the floor and contribute. Instead, we're hoping nobody fouls out or gets hurt. The last thing we need is for a young bench guy to see his first meaningful minutes in the conference tournament.

BigChiefGMG · 2025-02-13T00:10:35Z

Just now, GMG_Dallas said:

Why? Because in our league as it stands, the regular season means little unless you have a great OOC record and/or are on track to be undefeated. Our season is made in March. We either win the auto bid and keep playing meaningful basketball, get invited to a decent tournament like the NIT, or go home. There are no true at-large hopes. We should be prepping our roster so that anybody is ready to get on the floor and contribute. Instead, we're hoping nobody fouls out or gets hurt. The last thing we need is for a young bench guy to see his first meaningful minutes in the conference tournament.

I more or less said the same thing after UTSA game and everyone flamed me on here lol eye rolls and downvotes for days. If there was a game to do it, it would have been the 9 scoreless mins against them to spark the upperclassmen and get them to calm the F down in that game. Albeit we battled back in that example but man it’s just tough to see some talented freshman rot on the bench and burn a year of eligibility for 5 mins against Wayland Baptist and Texas Wesleyan. I do see the other side of it though, 8 man rotation is great when it’s working and you can sub out 2-3 players each time and give everyone rest. Hodge knows better than us we just have to trust him!

someone start the Tulsa thread already. Way too much negativity on here for a 18-6 squad in 2nd place. Idk about yall but dickies ain’t ready for us. We are the true Maniacs 😏

GMG_Dallas · 2025-02-13T00:16:30Z

2 minutes ago, BigChiefGMG said:

I more or less said the same thing after UTSA game and everyone flamed me on here lol eye rolls and downvotes for days. If there was a game to do it, it would have been the 9 scoreless mins against them to spark the upperclassmen and get them to calm the F down in that game. Albeit we battled back in that example but man it’s just tough to see some talented freshman rot on the bench and burn a year of eligibility for 5 mins against Wayland Baptist and Texas Wesleyan. I do see the other side of it though, 8 man rotation is great when it’s working and you can sub out 2-3 players each time and give everyone rest. Hodge knows better than us we just have to trust him!

someone start the Tulsa thread already. Way too much negativity on here for a 18-6 squad in 2nd place. Idk about yall but dickies ain’t ready for us. We are the true Maniacs 😏

I think there's a time and a place for everything. An 8 or 9 minute drought is the time to sub in 1 or 2 bench guys to see what spark they can generate. Maybe they can exploit a matchup others can't or bring a different type of energy than the guys who've seen their past 10 shots brick off the iron. If it doesn't work then have you really lost anything?

greenminer · 2025-02-13T02:04:44Z

8 hours ago, greenminer said:

Yeah, tough run. Temple is undefeated at home in AAC play.

And just like that, Tulsa goes to Philli and puts an end to that streak.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game/_/gameId/401725586/tulsa-temple

Edited 15 hours ago by greenminer

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · 2025-02-13T02:58:36Z

2 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

I think there's a time and a place for everything. An 8 or 9 minute drought is the time to sub in 1 or 2 bench guys to see what spark they can generate. Maybe they can exploit a matchup others can't or bring a different type of energy than the guys who've seen their past 10 shots brick off the iron. If it doesn't work then have you really lost anything?

Well if the guys on the bench were actually ready enough to play those minutes in droughts, they’d be playing. None of them are talented enough to be playing significant minutes, YET. I think some of these guys will get more of a chance next year, like Smith, but even if the regular season doesn’t matter as much, why try and make the deficit worse by putting in those bench guys?
By saying that, you want Matthew Stone and Alex Cotton in the game instead of a guy like Floyd or Jossell or Massie? Absolutely not, no matter how much I complain about the 8 guys, I’d rather see a drought with the 8 guys.

greenminer · 2025-02-13T04:17:53Z

1 hour ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

Well if the guys on the bench were actually ready enough to play those minutes in droughts, they’d be playing. None of them are talented enough to be playing significant minutes, YET

I get what the others are feeling, though. We have a history of 7-to-8 man rotations since 2017. Pretty much never budging.

So, the message is (according to you), we haven't ever had guys ready? That wouldn't be a good look on the coaches.

Edited 13 hours ago by greenminer

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · 2025-02-13T05:37:34Z

1 hour ago, greenminer said:

I get what the others are feeling, though. We have a history of 7-to-8 man rotations since 2017. Pretty much never budging.

So, the message is (according to you), we haven't ever had guys ready? That wouldn't be a good look on the coaches.

Oh I agree with you on that, it's frustrating to see previous guys like Christain Moore and Chris Morgan to name a few, that don't work out at all. It's hard to keep trusting that process, and makes you think maybe they are misevaluated, but I just don't think putting them in during crucial regular season games in significant minutes does much.

GMG_Dallas · 2025-02-13T12:12:04Z

9 hours ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

Well if the guys on the bench were actually ready enough to play those minutes in droughts, they’d be playing. None of them are talented enough to be playing significant minutes, YET. I think some of these guys will get more of a chance next year, like Smith, but even if the regular season doesn’t matter as much, why try and make the deficit worse by putting in those bench guys?
By saying that, you want Matthew Stone and Alex Cotton in the game instead of a guy like Floyd or Jossell or Massie? Absolutely not, no matter how much I complain about the 8 guys, I’d rather see a drought with the 8 guys.

Yes, I would much rather play Stone or Mason or Cotton than Floyd, Jossell, or Massie when we're in the midst of an 8 minute drought. That doesn't mean you're giving those guys 20 minutes or even 10 minutes and it doesn't mean they need minutes every game. If the roster on the floor and the subs on the bench aren't working, you bring in other guys for a few minutes. Sports are all about match-ups and again, when you haven't seen a shot go down in a few minutes, it can really affect your mind. No points in 5 minutes? Put somebody else in for 2 or 3 and see what they can do. Maybe they match-up better with the other team. If subbing in 1 single deep bench player for 3 minutes throws away everything you have on the floor then there's a bigger problem that relates back to recruiting and development.

Not going to go back and forth nonstop. We have a different opinion. As greenminer pointed out, we've seen this be an issue for years. I have no problem with the tight rotation when the team is firing on all cylinders but we've regularly seen huge droughts that will come back to bite us against the better teams. Already happened against a worst team like UTSA.

Edited 5 hours ago by GMG_Dallas

Censored by Laurie · 2025-02-13T13:44:56Z

Censored by Laurie · 2025-02-13T14:56:49Z

surprising calls for DEI from GMG

NorthTexasWeLove · 2025-02-13T15:38:07Z

40 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

surprising calls for DEI from GMG

No GIF

MeanGreenTexan · 2025-02-13T16:22:46Z

1 hour ago, Censored by Laurie said:

surprising calls for DEI from GMG

Yeah, OK basketball-ableist.

On a serious note: If we find ourselves in a scoring drought of over 5min, it would make sense to bring in someone fresh for a change of pace, or try something different. I understand the calls for that.
However, in doing so, you're also communicating to your main rotation guys that you've lost confidence in them to shoot out of said slump. That isn't a good thing either, and possibly a worse long-term outcome with you main rotation guys always having it in the back of their minds that if I'm not hitting tonight, coach is gonna pull me. For me, it's better to have faith that my guys are going to find their way out of a drought/slump. This keeps their confidence higher.
Just my $.02

NorthTexasWeLove · 2025-02-13T16:46:48Z

22 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Yeah, OK basketball-ableist.

On a serious note: If we find ourselves in a scoring drought of over 5min, it would make sense to bring in someone fresh for a change of pace, or try something different. I understand the calls for that.
However, in doing so, you're also communicating to your main rotation guys that you've lost confidence in them to shoot out of said slump. That isn't a good thing either, and possibly a worse long-term outcome with you main rotation guys always having it in the back of their minds that if I'm not hitting tonight, coach is gonna pull me. For me, it's better to have faith that my guys are going to find their way out of a drought/slump. This keeps their confidence higher.
Just my $.02

Damn right... if you suck you're getting pulled/fired/demoted/reassigned/etc. That is called life.

Censored by Laurie · 2025-02-13T16:52:29Z

5 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Damn right... if you suck you're getting pulled/fired/demoted/reassigned/etc. That is called life.

GMG is evidence this is just not true

MeanGreenTexan · 2025-02-13T17:23:29Z

33 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Damn right... if you suck you're getting pulled/fired/demoted/reassigned/etc. That is called life.

Let me get this straight. If you find yourself in a shooting slump for a few minutes in a couple of games, "you suck"? ...despite all of the other minutes in all of the other games you've played?
In your "life", you've never made mistakes or been in a slump? Do you suck?

NorthTexasWeLove · 2025-02-13T17:27:47Z

4 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Let me get this straight. If you find yourself in a shooting slump for a few minutes in a couple of games, "you suck"? ...despite all of the other minutes in all of the other games you've played?
In your "life", you've never made mistakes or been in a slump? Do you suck?

In that moment, yes, you're sucking. And our slumps are not outliers that stand out. They're frequent, often every game, and sometimes multiple times a game. Look, I'm not mad at the players or coaching staff. I couldn't be. We are 18-6. But there are clearly offensive flaws that jump off the screen at times. Those issues are generally attributed to individual players not hitting shots/choosing not to be aggressive. It needs to be fixed if we want to be an NCAA Tournament team. I'm not sure how any of this is debatable as its all fact based.

Edited 31 minutes ago by NorthTexasWeLove

NorthTexasWeLove · 2025-02-13T17:30:59Z

38 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

GMG is evidence this is just not true

Gmg isn't real life.

GMG_Dallas · 2025-02-13T17:33:53Z

1 hour ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Yeah, OK basketball-ableist.

On a serious note: If we find ourselves in a scoring drought of over 5min, it would make sense to bring in someone fresh for a change of pace, or try something different. I understand the calls for that.
However, in doing so, you're also communicating to your main rotation guys that you've lost confidence in them to shoot out of said slump. That isn't a good thing either, and possibly a worse long-term outcome with you main rotation guys always having it in the back of their minds that if I'm not hitting tonight, coach is gonna pull me. For me, it's better to have faith that my guys are going to find their way out of a drought/slump. This keeps their confidence higher.
Just my $.02

I think that's a fair concern. As it is, players get pulled when they're messing up such as turning over the ball, not being active on defense, not boxing out/rebounding, etc... the difference is those issues are often effort based. Problem here is with 8 guys being unable to shoot yourself out of a drought, effort is not the concern. At that point, bring in somebody with a clear state of mind. I don't think it would affect guys any different than being made to sit for those effort reasons. Thoughts?

NorthTexasWeLove · 2025-02-13T17:45:09Z

7 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

I think that's a fair concern. As it is, players get pulled when they're messing up such as turning over the ball, not being active on defense, not boxing out/rebounding, etc... the difference is those issues are often effort based. Problem here is with 8 guys being unable to shoot yourself out of a drought, effort is not the concern. At that point, bring in somebody with a clear state of mind. I don't think it would affect guys any different than being made to sit for those effort reasons. Thoughts?

We take under 5 25 footers more than I have ever seen. Are we being coached to do THAT? Or would our coaching staff rather play with ball movement within the shot clock and finish at the rim at least SOME of the time. I bet the staff doesn't want the former. Yet, we get it a ton. YET, the 8 man rotation stays air tight even when they're not doing what they're being coached to do. But hell, maybe Ross likes those shot clock buzzer beating 25 footers. Maybes that's the game-plan.