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Conference name is meaningless if the teams aren't performing. Y'all want more bids? Go to the new Pac. Otherwise, we'll get left behind. Not enough money? AD needs to remember to make money you have to invest money first.

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Yeah, the new PAC has always intrigued me, but this kind of seals the deal for me. 

Basketball has been our strongest sport since the early 2000s. It's time we lean into it and join a league where our program has a better shot at thriving and making the tournament more regularly. On the basketball front, it's a no-brainer at this point.

On the football front, competing against WSU, OSU, Boise St., SDSU, etc. is same/same if not slightly better to me than competing against Army, Memphis, Tulane, and USF most years.

I get that the media deal isn't locked in, but I think they have a better shot at landing a better media deal than the American will when the American's comes up for renewal. 

If I'm Mosley, I'm trying to make the move now and leveraging the DFW market and Central time zone as negotiation points to get the PAC to help with our American buy out. 

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1 hour ago, MeanGreenGlory said:

Yeah, the new PAC has always intrigued me, but this kind of seals the deal for me. 

Basketball has been our strongest sport since the early 2000s. It's time we lean into it and join a league where our program has a better shot at thriving and making the tournament more regularly. On the basketball front, it's a no-brainer at this point.

On the football front, competing against WSU, OSU, Boise St., SDSU, etc. is same/same if not slightly better to me than competing against Army, Memphis, Tulane, and USF most years.

I get that the media deal isn't locked in, but I think they have a better shot at landing a better media deal than the American will when the American's comes up for renewal. 

If I'm Mosley, I'm trying to make the move now and leveraging the DFW market and Central time zone as negotiation points to get the PAC to help with our American buy out. 

You make a good case!

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The AAC as a conference needs to schedule better. 

Just looking at our schedule, we should only have two of these: Wayland Baptist, Evansville, Texas Wesleyan, Mississippi Valley State, Houston Christian, High Point, App State. A bunch of no names that completely ruin our SOS. I get needing a tune up game or two to begin the season, but after that it needs to be balls to the wall in out of conference. The AAC is too weak, and by the time we hit that schedule (for the most part) there's nowhere to go but down.

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58 minutes ago, ColoradoEagle said:

The AAC as a conference needs to schedule better. 

Just looking at our schedule, we should only have two of these: Wayland Baptist, Evansville, Texas Wesleyan, Mississippi Valley State, Houston Christian, High Point, App State. A bunch of no names that completely ruin our SOS. I get needing a tune up game or two to begin the season, but after that it needs to be balls to the wall in out of conference. The AAC is too weak, and by the time we hit that schedule (for the most part) there's nowhere to go but down.

Absolutely agree. Looking at Memphis, if they take a couple conference losses, it's OK because their OOC is good enough to make-up for it. Our OOC is such that we can't afford any conference losses. I believe we're good enough to make the tournament but our resume suggests we haven't proven it and with our OOC, we were barely had the opportunity to prove it. 

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22 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Absolutely agree. Looking at Memphis, if they take a couple conference losses, it's OK because their OOC is good enough to make-up for it. Our OOC is such that we can't afford any conference losses. I believe we're good enough to make the tournament but our resume suggests we haven't proven it and with our OOC, we were barely had the opportunity to prove it. 

The problem is and should be obvious, good teams seldom schedule oc away games.  Without a name like Memphis and/or money like Memphis, scheduling upper tier or even pier schools to games in Denton is very difficult.  

In fact, NT has been so good lately, that it is hard to even get decent away oc games.  

 

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54 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

The problem is and should be obvious, good teams seldom schedule oc away games.  Without a name like Memphis and/or money like Memphis, scheduling upper tier or even pier schools to games in Denton is very difficult.  

In fact, NT has been so good lately, that it is hard to even get decent away oc games.  

 

Then play them in their house. An away loss at Kentucky is worth more than a home win versus Mississippi Valley. I'd rather have 4 road games against high-major schools than play bottom of the barrel schools at home. If you split those road games vs high majors, that likely puts you at 2-2 in Quad 1 games which would look great on our resume. A Quad 1 road game just needs to ge top 75. At our house they have to be top 30. It's almost more beneficial to be on the road because there's more room for error. Neutral site opponents need to be top 50 which is why so many schools do those tournaments. There's a ton of room for error. You just need to go .500.

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7 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Then play them in their house. An away loss at Kentucky is worth more than a home win versus Mississippi Valley. I'd rather have 4 road games against high-major schools than play bottom of the barrel schools at home. If you split those road games vs high majors, that likely puts you at 2-2 in Quad 1 games which would look great on our resume. A Quad 1 road game just needs to ge top 75. At our house they have to be top 30. It's almost more beneficial to be on the road because there's more room for error. Neutral site opponents need to be top 50 which is why so many schools do those tournaments. There's a ton of room for error. You just need to go .500.

I guess you didn't read the second sentence.  The problem is that Kentucky or the like is highly unlikely to want to play NT.  Too much risk even at their place of losing to a nobody in their view.  

 

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3 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

I guess you didn't read the second sentence.  The problem is that Kentucky or the like is highly unlikely to want to play NT.  Too much risk even at their place of losing to a nobody in their view.  

 

I don't believe this for one second. This stuff is about Quad 1 and Quad 2 games. That's what resumes boil down to. It doesn't matter what the school is named. Alabama hosted McNeese State this year who's NET is about what ours is and made the tournament last year.

You look at most other AAC schools and their OOC was similar to ours. My opinion is this is why our coaches don't want to schedule tough OOC:

"There several performance incentives included in the contract, including one tied to the number of wins UNT posts in a season. Hodge will receive $7,500 if UNT wins 20 games, $17,500 if the Mean Green reach the 25-win mark and 37,500 for winning 30 games."

https://dentonrc.com/sports/colleges/mean_green/unt-new-basketball-coach-ross-hodge-agree-to-basic-terms-of-five-year-deal/article_32af169c-33ec-5e85-8226-5637457e6cc5.html

They schedule a couple tough tests to appease the fans and "prepare the team" and then load up with winnable games. High major schools don't care about wins, it's all about winning the conference, making the tournament, and then winning that. Playing North Texas doesn't change that either way. Schedule them. FAU played at UCF and Michigan State this year. So can North Texas.

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