Ranting about the AD, Students, Attendance and Fan Support

NT80 · 2025-01-29T05:46:40Z

2 hours ago, DentonStang said:

Winning and opponent quality is most important

Having a few millionaires loitering around campus helps too, right?

DentonStang · 2025-01-29T17:41:28Z

11 hours ago, NT80 said:

Having a few millionaires loitering around campus helps too, right?

We'd be better off long term with 45,000 students than a few fickle donors but you have to work with what you have.

DallasGreen · 2025-01-29T18:23:40Z

On 1/28/2025 at 11:35 AM, cousin oliver said:

This times 1000! Why in god's name are some on here going after poor Jarrod? He has always been very gracious to me and my girlfriend. He seems to really sincerely care about UNT.

Hayden Fry was the AD only because that was the only way we could pay his worth He hated the AD job and was going HC only his last year. The two jobs do not lend themselves to a combination. They should both be mutually exclusive. We have passed on some good ADs among them Steve Sloan, Bill Blakeley applied, RV accomplished some things never before dreamed of at North Texas, and Corky Nelson managed to keep football from being dropped.

Dannymacfan · 2025-01-29T18:41:53Z

17 minutes ago, DallasGreen said:

Hayden Fry was the AD only because that was the only way we could pay his worth He hated the AD job and was going HC only his last year. The two jobs do not lend themselves to a combination. They should both be mutually exclusive. We have passed on some good ADs among them Steve Sloan, Bill Blakeley applied, RV accomplished some things never before dreamed of at North Texas, and Corky Nelson managed to keep football from being dropped.

RV made a few mistakes as well, but in general I do agree with your sentiments.

ColoradoEagle · 2025-01-29T18:56:16Z

11 minutes ago, Dannymacfan said:

RV made a few mistakes as well, but in general I do agree with your sentiments.

RV was very good at the gladhanding portion of the job, and advanced facilities in a way very few other people may have been able to do. Main problem was, outside of Johnny Jones, the man was incapable of picking a good football or basketball coach.

NorthTexasWeLove · 2025-01-29T19:01:08Z

Just now, ColoradoEagle said:

RV was very good at the gladhanding portion of the job, and advanced facilities in a way very few other people may have been able to do. Main problem was, outside of Johnny Jones, the man was incapable of picking a good football or basketball coach.

Dan McCarney was a decent hire that started to unravel fast due to age, lack of motivation, health issues and alleged alcoholism. The plug should've been pulled much faster than it was. Frankly, a contract ext should've never been handed out and let him sail out into the sunset ASAP after the HoD bowl.

He had 1 good basketball hire and 1 very mediocre football hire. And we're talking about 17ish years on the job. Pretty remarkable. So he damn well had to be good at gladhanding with those accomplishments. Some have tried to take away his part of DATCU being built, and there may be truth to it, but he was here when the approval was done, plans put in place and construction complete. Some credit has to be given there.

SilverEagle · 2025-01-29T19:12:48Z

9 minutes ago, DallasGreen said:

Hayden Fry was the AD only because that was the only way we could pay his worth He hated the AD job and was going HC only his last year. The two jobs do not lend themselves to a combination. They should both be mutually exclusive. We have passed on some good ADs among them Steve Sloan, Bill Blakeley applied, RV accomplished some things never before dreamed of at North Texas, and Corky Nelson managed to keep football from being dropped.

Just doing things "part time" Hayden accomplished a lot. He created the Mean Green Club so that donating to the athletic department could start happening. Something that never happened in the history of our school, He got us noticed by local media. He got our merchandise out there better than anyone before. I remember purchasing a Mean Green shirt at the J.C, Pennys at NE mall. Before that, you almost never saw any North Texas Merchandise outside the campus stores. I personally participated in one outreach event where a trailer bed was pulled up to the Sanger town square and set up. A pep band set up and played, Cheerleaders went around and asked Merchants to let them leave season ticket information/applications. They then put on an impromptu pep rally. Their message to the community was "we want to be your college athletic program". They did the same in some other small communities. His promotions guy, Bill Vogel owned a custom Mean Green van. Every time he went out in the community, even for a simple shopping trip, he went in his rolling advertisement for the program.

SilverEagle · 2025-01-29T19:20:31Z

13 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Dan McCarney was a decent hire that started to unravel fast due to age, lack of motivation, health issues and alleged alcoholism. The plug should've been pulled much faster than it was. Frankly, a contract ext should've never been handed out and let him sail out into the sunset ASAP after the HoD bowl.

He had 1 good basketball hire and 1 very mediocre football hire. And we're talking about 17ish years on the job. Pretty remarkable. So he damn well had to be good at gladhanding with those accomplishments. Some have tried to take away his part of DATCU being built, and there may be truth to it, but he was here when the approval was done, plans put in place and construction complete. Some credit has to be given there.

We wouldn't have had DATCU without a student vote. The first attempt (run by him) failed miserably. He had to be told to stay as far away from the second try for it to succeed. But he had to be told. He didn't have enough sense to know that on his own. "Flyer" got the second vote going and saw it through. AND HE NEVER GOT ONE MENTION BY THE (RV) ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT FOR HIS EFFORTS.

UNTLifer · 2025-01-29T20:00:25Z

Steve Sloan liked the golf course too much.

untbowler · 2025-01-29T20:46:38Z

2 hours ago, Dannymacfan said:

RV made a few mistakes as well, but in general I do agree with your sentiments.

RV got lazy after 10 yrs, Wren was good then got big eyes to move up and got lazy, Mosely has started out apathetic and has shown nothing that will actually grow the Program with fans, considering the $$$ being shelled out in the AD area, the ROI is pathetic

UNTLifer · 2025-01-29T21:15:25Z

I think Mosley is a great "player's coach" or "coach's AD" in that he supports his coaches really well and they enjoy working for him. He isn't the "rah-rah" type to stir up the alumni, students or local community, which is okay except that is what we need right now. It's nothing personal against him, but if he isn't wired that way then he isn't what we need leading the department at this time.

Mean Green 93-98 · 2025-01-29T21:40:05Z

2 hours ago, SilverEagle said:

But he had to be told. He didn't have enough sense to know that on his own.

Are you sure about that? I heard some of the student leaders were upset that he was playing so "hands-off," and didn't understand why. He seemed to know himself quite clearly.

NT80 · 2025-01-29T21:40:08Z

President Pohl was the one that presented the idea of the former NT Eagle Point golf course being used for Athletics (stadium, etc.). The lease was recently not renewed by the group running the course and Dr. Pohl saw an opportunity to get more land for the core campus (Fouts) and help Athletics with some acreage for new facilities....just before RV was set to renovate a warehouse as a new Athletic Center and another makeover for Fouts.

UNTLifer · 2025-01-29T21:53:04Z

12 minutes ago, NT80 said:

.just before RV was set to renovate a warehouse as a new Athletic Center and another makeover for Fouts.

That is the facility's building on the north end of Fouts. That would have been terrible.

NorthTexasWeLove · 2025-01-29T23:20:24Z

2 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

I think Mosley is a great "player's coach" or "coach's AD" in that he supports his coaches really well and they enjoy working for him. He isn't the "rah-rah" type to stir up the alumni, students or local community, which is okay except that is what we need right now. It's nothing personal against him, but if he isn't wired that way then he isn't what we need leading the department at this time.

He doesn't need to rah rah. He needs to do his job. I don't look to him to be our "leader." I look to him to get his marketing/relations department to do their freaking jobs to fill up our arena/stadium. I look to him to canvass for money, corporate and private. I look to him to schedule as well and balanced as he can. I look to him to hire competent, winning coaches.