Should we add Texas State to the AAC?

HouCat · 2025-01-11T02:35:39Z

3 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

@HouCat, question about Bobcat Ballpark. Can you provide some details on the facility? Seating capacity? Age/when built? Cost? How much are single game and season tickets? Do you all sell a lot of season tickets? Add anything else you think would be relevant. Many on here think baseball is a revenue drain, but I would love to see some actual numbers. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

Actually found some information here:

https://txst.com/facilities/bobcat-ballpark/5

Really nice looking facility outside of the brown turf/fake dirt.

Great questions, unfortunately I haven’t been to a baseball game in years so I’m not much help. I live 3 hours away and football is about the only thing I make it back for but I know we’ve done some nice renovations.

Edit: it looks like ya’ll found some links online

NT80 · 2025-01-11T02:35:43Z

2 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

I'd much rather a $10 million baseball complex than a new $50 million basketball arena that likely won't boost attendance. At least with baseball we can duplicate basketball attendance numbers in the spring and put eyes on the school year round. DBU plays LSU at the College Baseball Series in February at Globe Life Field in Arlington. OU, Oklahoma State, Oregon State, Texas, and a plethora of big brands will be competing in the same series. Another school competing? Texas State. Would be nice to be lumped in with those schools in a revenue sport.

Exactly. More fans on campus year-round should be the goal.

GMG_Dallas · 2025-01-11T04:40:14Z

2 hours ago, greenminer said:

I thought more people would be on board with regional ties, since the P4 are destroying the future of non-P4 as we know it.

Apparently, more people are not on board. I'm rethinking this.

Here's someone else's take:

Still a no for me. Would be a step backwards.

Looking at the corresponding moves, Temple isn't going FCS any time soon. They spend 1.5 to 2 times what we do on football salaries. Glad he put Charlotte in the Sun Belt twice, though. Probably the only move I agree with.

Matt from A700 · 2025-01-11T06:56:38Z

TXST in the same conference would be fun, but there are a lot of great moves to make... many of the current teams in our conference need to be kicked out first to avoid cheapening the media payout.

NTWL20 · 2025-01-11T07:49:43Z

5 hours ago, greenminer said:

I thought more people would be on board with regional ties, since the P4 are destroying the future of non-P4 as we know it.

Apparently, more people are not on board. I'm rethinking this.

Here's someone else's take:

These conference wishlists are fun to discuss but in no world should UNT share a conference with Tarleton State and SHSU in 2025 lol

I’d love being in the PAC as long as some other AAC members follow as a package. That conference wouldn’t be as friendly regionally but there would definitely be more opportunities for national recognition in the PAC especially in basketball.

Jonnyeagle · 2025-01-11T15:25:42Z

7 hours ago, NTWL20 said:

These conference wishlists are fun to discuss but in no world should UNT share a conference with Tarleton State and SHSU in 2025 lol

I’d love being in the PAC as long as some other AAC members follow as a package. That conference wouldn’t be as friendly regionally but there would definitely be more opportunities for national recognition in the PAC especially in basketball.

I agree with you that the PAC would only be attractive if other AAC schools were following suit. I just don’t think they will. We have a pretty solid conference now. Of course Memphis, Tulane, and USF will all be wanting to move up to ACC etc when and if that opportunity arises. But for now we are in a competitive conference and we should try to build and win it.

MrAlien · 2025-01-11T16:50:59Z

I doubt UNT would be able to follow any schools east. Tulane and USF are probably the next to go into what ever happens in the ACC, and I could see Rice going too. I think Memphis would love to go east, but I have a feeling those other schools might be a little snobby when it comes to Memphis, same can be said for UNT. Moving to the Pac12 would not be ideal in a region sense, however in terms of competition it would be a good fit for schools like Memphis, UNT, and maybe Wichita. What would be the alternative if the AAC falls apart?

NT80 · 2025-01-11T17:31:44Z

37 minutes ago, MrAlien said:

I doubt UNT would be able to follow any schools east. Tulane and USF are probably the next to go into what ever happens in the ACC, and I could see Rice going too. I think Memphis would love to go east, but I have a feeling those other schools might be a little snobby when it comes to Memphis, same can be said for UNT. Moving to the Pac12 would not be ideal in a region sense, however in terms of competition it would be a good fit for schools like Memphis, UNT, and maybe Wichita. What would be the alternative if the AAC falls apart?

Media value, Football strength, then basketball strength, geographic and population area, all go into conference considerations. The ACC may lose 2-3 schools max to the SEC/BIG. Rice won't get an interview.

Tom McKrackin · 2025-01-11T17:42:26Z

15 hours ago, HouCat said:

Great questions, unfortunately I haven’t been to a baseball game in years so I’m not much help. I live 3 hours away and football is about the only thing I make it back for but I know we’ve done some nice renovations.

Edit: it looks like ya’ll found some links online

How good is your basketball program these days? That would be a key consideration I would think for an invite as the AAC is pretty good in basketball these days having had a final four team just a year ago and whatnot.

DallasGreen · 2025-01-11T19:05:18Z

11 hours ago, NTWL20 said:

These conference wishlists are fun to discuss but in no world should UNT share a conference with Tarleton State and SHSU in 2025 lol

I’d love being in the PAC as long as some other AAC members follow as a package. That conference wouldn’t be as friendly regionally but there would definitely be more opportunities for national recognition in the PAC especially in basketball.

Time differential is disadvantage of PAC-we we’re invited a decade ago and turned down the offer for this reason

DallasGreen · 2025-01-11T19:14:10Z

We need another in state rival to complement UTSA Don’t trash Charlotte until you have been there. They are great fans and students who strongly support athletics. Town is banking center of the south. Average age of a resident is well under 40.

DallasGreen · 2025-01-11T19:21:54Z

2 hours ago, MrAlien said:

I doubt UNT would be able to follow any schools east. Tulane and USF are probably the next to go into what ever happens in the ACC, and I could see Rice going too. I think Memphis would love to go east, but I have a feeling those other schools might be a little snobby when it comes to Memphis, same can be said for UNT. Moving to the Pac12 would not be ideal in a region sense, however in terms of competition it would be a good fit for schools like Memphis, UNT, and maybe Wichita. What would be the alternative if the AAC falls apart?

We will soon only have 3 twelve to fifteen team conferences that can continue NIL and transfer portal. Need to cut our losses and head back to FCS. Students, town, and school have no respect by FBS and rightly so.

DallasGreen · 2025-01-11T19:25:14Z

1 hour ago, Tom McKrackin said:

How good is your basketball program these days? That would be a key consideration I would think for an invite as the AAC is pretty good in basketball these days having had a final four team just a year ago and whatnot.

Basketball is irrelevant. Football drives the bus. Lose it and your entire athletic department quickly craters.