So sick of the crap this football program slings us

[Udomann]

38 minutes ago, Aquila_Viridis said:

Meanwhile the basketball team has been easy to love. Don’t forget about them.

 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

16 minutes ago, MrAlien said:

Its an exhibition game, a consolation, it doesn't count for anything.  I think its better to have our program and coaches spend December focused on building a team and staff for the fall rather then a meaningless bowl game. 

Awful take. We've won like 3 bowl games in our history. When the opportunity presents itself to store hardware into a cabinet it needs to be taken advantage of. We never do. With this mindset every game we play is a meaningless exhibition because we will never win or play for a national championship. And to peel it back further, a national championship is meaningless if a bowl trophy is meaningless. It's all meaningless. 

[Meangreen Fight]

On 1/3/2025 at 6:45 PM, Dannymacfan said:

Year after year excuses and bullshit!

Texas State just passed us by.  Disgusting!

I get it.  I over react on this board often.  It doesn’t matter to the people making decisions that affect this program.  Hell they don’t respond when my donations drop and I drop season tickets.  But I only have so much negativity to spew per season and I am all tapped out.  Since that blown game against La Tech with the Mean Joe Statue unveiling and the program had the most momentum I have ever seen, leadership has been making bad decisions.   A lot of us FIRST GUESSED and questioned most if not ALL the moves made since that day.  
 

Maybe invest some of that energy in our Basketball program. 🤷🏽‍♂️  

Edited 17 hours ago by Meangreen Fight

[Green Otaku]

58 minutes ago, GMG24 said:

I particularly liked the Texas - State Texas - State Eat em up whatever the hell they say after that.  2 loud North - Texas maybe followed up with GMG lol IDK but I liked that it didn't have to slowly fade out after everyone was tired of yelling.

I always thought we should chant "Go Mean Green" on kickoffs.

Make noise before the kick: "Ooooooooooooooohhh"

*kick*

"Go Mean Green!"

 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

6 minutes ago, Meangreen Fight said:

I get it.  I over react on this board often.  It doesn’t matter to the people making decisions that affect this program.  Hell they don’t respond when my donations drop and I drop season tickets.  But I only have so much negativity to spew per season and I am all tapped out.  Since that blown against La Tech when the program had the most momentum I have ever seen leadership here has been making bad decisions.   A lot of us FIRST GUESSED and question most if not ALL the moves made since that day.  
 

Maybe invest some of that energy in our Basketball program. 🤷🏽‍♂️  

Yes. 

 

5 minutes ago, Green Otaku said:

I always thought we should chant "Go Mean Green" on kickoffs.

Make noise before the kick: "Ooooooooooooooohhh"

*kick*

"Go Mean Green!"

 

Very good idea. 

[Green Otaku]

5 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

 

 

Very good idea. 

You'd need to get the athletic department onboard to get the word out to new students at orientation that this is a thing we are trying to do. Also with a prompt on the jumbo-tron to get people in the stadium to start doing it.

 

[BigWillie]

47 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Awful take. We've won like 3 bowl games in our history. When the opportunity presents itself to store hardware into a cabinet it needs to be taken advantage of. We never do. With this mindset every game we play is a meaningless exhibition because we will never win or play for a national championship. And to peel it back further, a national championship is meaningless if a bowl trophy is meaningless. It's all meaningless. 

45 minutes ago, Green Otaku said:

I always thought we should chant "Go Mean Green" on kickoffs.

Make noise before the kick: "Ooooooooooooooohhh"

*kick*

"Go Mean Green!"

 

Have you seen our alum side? They barely move unless it is to get more nachos, much less trying to chant.

[Cougar King]

You know UNT wasn't gonna miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Why are you even getting upset at this point?

[Texas Stranger]

4 hours ago, Dannymacfan said:

Texas State just passed us by.  Disgusting!

Where did they go?  I'm fairly certain they're still in the Sun Belt.

[Hookset]

3 hours ago, Cooke County Kid said:

Offense will not be the problem next year. 

Offense hasn’t been the problem at UNT for years. I am optimistic for the DC change for next year.

[GrandGreen]

So a lot of you think that NT is not deserving of your valuable fandom.   I actually was proud of the team that continue to battle with a completely revamped lineup including a completely untested QB.  

Yeah and spare me the low expectations accusations that are usually leveled at anyone that dares to not rave and rant about a loss.  

[Matt from A700]

After Morris and Sheffield transferred, how many here were actually expecting to win? Many of us were just hoping TXST didn't handle us like they did UTSA this year or Rice in last year's First Responder Bowl.

Sure, it's the head coach's job to have his team ready to play and in position to win regardless of the adversity faced, but it's still incredible the performance Mestemaker had. Tonight was better than any game C. Morris has had since Memphis. Coastal Carolina lost their starting QB to the portal and got dog walked in their bowl game against UTSA in their own building. Yes, the loss increases our bowl futility streak to an active high, and it sucks to lose to an intrastate program in an inferior conference, but that shouldn't take away from Drew's game.

The biggest disappointment to me was how badly we were outnumbered by TXST fans. We went from packing the lower level of the Cotton Bowl to being matched ON OUR OWN SIDE. Like our team, our fans also struggle to wear green.

However, there should be optimism surrounding next season. Eric made a poor hire with his first DC obviously, but made the tough (but right) call in getting rid of him. Next year's presumed starter will be in his last year of eligibility, so no losing another 4000 yard passed before the bowl game.

If we struggle to another 6/7-win season and bowl loss with next year's schedule, I think Eric's seat should be pretty hot again.

Edited Saturday at 06:04 AM by Matt from A700

[Aquila_Viridis]

State fans showed up because they rightfully expected to win in this game. If the AD thinks they're going to depend on people to show up just cause NT has a team there, they are dead wrong. There are a few, but there are many many more who will not show up when they don't think their team will win. There are too many obligations and opportunities to devote precious time and money watching a team lose. 

[Green Otaku]

3 hours ago, BigWillie said:

Have you seen our alum side? They barely move unless it is to get more nachos, much less trying to chant.

We do alright with the North Texas chant sometimes, we just need to make it a staple and I think people will do it.

[97and03]

5 hours ago, Matt from A700 said:

After Morris and Sheffield transferred, how many here were actually expecting to win? Many of us were just hoping TXST didn't handle us like they did UTSA this year or Rice in last year's First Responder Bowl.

Sure, it's the head coach's job to have his team ready to play and in position to win regardless of the adversity faced, but it's still incredible the performance Mestemaker had. Tonight was better than any game C. Morris has had since Memphis. Coastal Carolina lost their starting QB to the portal and got dog walked in their bowl game against UTSA in their own building. Yes, the loss increases our bowl futility streak to an active high, and it sucks to lose to an intrastate program in an inferior conference, but that shouldn't take away from Drew's game.

The biggest disappointment to me was how badly we were outnumbered by TXST fans. We went from packing the lower level of the Cotton Bowl to being matched ON OUR OWN SIDE. Like our team, our fans also struggle to wear green.

However, there should be optimism surrounding next season. Eric made a poor hire with his first DC obviously, but made the tough (but right) call in getting rid of him. Next year's presumed starter will be in his last year of eligibility, so no losing another 4000 yard passed before the bowl game.

If we struggle to another 6/7-win season and bowl loss with next year's schedule, I think Eric's seat should be pretty hot again.

If we struggle to another six win season then Morris has to go. Not a “hot seat” let’s see how year four goes. 

[GMG_Dallas]

2 hours ago, 97and03 said:

If we struggle to another six win season then Morris has to go. Not a “hot seat” let’s see how year four goes. 

Have you seen next year's opponents? The serious programs in our conference would look at it and say 10+ wins no questions asked.

*conference schedule isn't set yet

https://fbschedules.com/2025-north-texas-football-schedule/#google_vignette

 

[cousin oliver]

58 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Have you seen next year's opponents? The serious programs in our conference would look at it and say 10+ wins no questions asked.

*conference schedule isn't set yet

https://fbschedules.com/2025-north-texas-football-schedule/#google_vignette

 

Won’t they adjust the conference schedule to equalize out the non conference?

[bstnsportsfan3]

54 minutes ago, cousin oliver said:

Won’t they adjust the conference schedule to equalize out the non conference?

no and we have 7 home games for the first time ever next year

[greenminer]

10 hours ago, Texas Stranger said:

Where did they go?  I'm fairly certain they're still in the Sun Belt.

Bingo! We thought the same thing after the NO Bowl win, and the 2013 bowl win. Yet here we are.

things are fluid in G5. People use “passed us by” too much. It’s a lazy cry for people with FOMO.

its P4 vs the rest of us. That’s the battle.

[NT93]

10 hours ago, Matt from A700 said:

After Morris and Sheffield transferred, how many here were actually expecting to win? Many of us were just hoping TXST didn't handle us like they did UTSA this year or Rice in last year's First Responder Bowl.

Sure, it's the head coach's job to have his team ready to play and in position to win regardless of the adversity faced, but it's still incredible the performance Mestemaker had. Tonight was better than any game C. Morris has had since Memphis. Coastal Carolina lost their starting QB to the portal and got dog walked in their bowl game against UTSA in their own building. Yes, the loss increases our bowl futility streak to an active high, and it sucks to lose to an intrastate program in an inferior conference, but that shouldn't take away from Drew's game.

The biggest disappointment to me was how badly we were outnumbered by TXST fans. We went from packing the lower level of the Cotton Bowl to being matched ON OUR OWN SIDE. Like our team, our fans also struggle to wear green.

However, there should be optimism surrounding next season. Eric made a poor hire with his first DC obviously, but made the tough (but right) call in getting rid of him. Next year's presumed starter will be in his last year of eligibility, so no losing another 4000 yard passed before the bowl game.

If we struggle to another 6/7-win season and bowl loss with next year's schedule, I think Eric's seat should be pretty hot again.

Great post.

Also, I didn’t spend much time researching, but a very quick Google search shows that teams that played the bowl games without their starting QB were not successful.  I believe USC and Louisville were the only teams to win with a back-up.  UNT, Coastal, Tulane, Cal, Pitt, OU*, Duke, and Miami** lost.  
Not having your QB is obviously a big deal.

From the little I’ve seen, we’ve gotten better publicity in a loss due to Mestemakers performance than we would have gotten with a win if Morris had played.  The media absolutely loves the “hasn’t started a game since freshman B team” narrative, and are blown away by his performance***.
 

*Hawkins started games for OU this year

**Cam Ward played half the game

***thanks to those giving EM some credit for how Mestemaker played. 

[SilverEagle]

20 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

I was at the game. We have the most uneducated fan base in America. Guy sitting behind me was telling his TX State friend that our fans were mainly family members of players and the band. Idiots like that drive me crazy. 

Our cheerleaders try to start the North Texas chant when we are on offense and our band is a shell of what it used to be. 

The Band has been a shell of what it used to be for at least a couple of decades. Our cheerleaders are gymnast only. They know nothing about promoting spirit. But then, neither does the Talons and neither does the Band. 

 

[wardly]

Of the 7 bowl games we have lost since 2001 we played 3 in of them with losing records and had no business being invited. The other 4 we were underdogs and lost them all. I am not trying to make  excuses for our bowl game record but trying to put into perspective.

[MrAlien]

21 hours ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Awful take. We've won like 3 bowl games in our history. When the opportunity presents itself to store hardware into a cabinet it needs to be taken advantage of. We never do. With this mindset every game we play is a meaningless exhibition because we will never win or play for a national championship. And to peel it back further, a national championship is meaningless if a bowl trophy is meaningless. It's all meaningless. 

Its different now with the NIL and transfer rules, unless a team is in the playoff, the season is over when the portal opens.  All of these bowl games are meaningless now (outside the playoffs), they start off each bowl game talking about how many players left, these are not even the same teams that played in the season.  

This is why I would rather a head coach spend December focused on recruiting players from the portal then preparing for a bowl game. 

[Matt from A700]

10 hours ago, NT93 said:

Great post.

Also, I didn’t spend much time researching, but a very quick Google search shows that teams that played the bowl games without their starting QB were not successful.  I believe USC and Louisville were the only teams to win with a back-up.  UNT, Coastal, Tulane, Cal, Pitt, OU*, Duke, and Miami** lost.  
Not having your QB is obviously a big deal.

From the little I’ve seen, we’ve gotten better publicity in a loss due to Mestemakers performance than we would have gotten with a win if Morris had played.  The media absolutely loves the “hasn’t started a game since freshman B team” narrative, and are blown away by his performance***.
 

*Hawkins started games for OU this year

**Cam Ward played half the game

***thanks to those giving EM some credit for how Mestemaker played. 

I think Mestemaker's game has definitely overshadowed TXST's win. His performance was a top story on ESPN.

 

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