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2 hours ago, Udomann said:

Bowl games have lost their prestige. Too many teams, too many bowls, too few people to cheer for anymore.

Impossible to disagree with this, but man have there been some great bowl games this year.

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5 hours ago, 97and03 said:

Has Morris discussed the QB situation? 

Yes, no one has film on Mestemaker and that could be used to our advantage. I think he also mentioned that he's on scholarship now.

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On 12/28/2024 at 11:37 AM, BigWillie said:

So go to pre game activities and leave, got it.

Sounds like most homecoming games… hell it appears that is the SOP for most of the current students who care to be within a mile of our stadium on game day.   

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29 minutes ago, Meangreen Fight said:

Sounds like most homecoming games… hell it appears that is the SOP for most of the current students who care to be within a mile of our stadium on game day.   

And why is that? Probably because this team has yet to win with any consistency. Think 2013 when we were winning how the crowds looked. See HoD bowl attendance.

Boiling it down to one thing that has been said 100000 times on here......

Amazon Football GIF by NFL On Prime Video

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On 12/28/2024 at 7:38 PM, NT93 said:

Impossible to disagree with this, but man have there been some great bowl games this year.

I have seen great effort and spirit in the bowl games. I feel w/o them there is nothing for a D-5 team to play for. I watch them all as well as the CFP. In fact I just bought two Cotton Bowl tickets hoping that UT is in it. To show how mixed up people o/s the metroplex are about a stadium named the Cotton Bowl that does not even host the game, I heard an announcer say that UT has an advantage because it plays OU here every year. Really? I would rather see it played in the old venue rather than a pro facility where Jerry Jones keeps the bulk of the revenue. Just call it what it is “Jerry”s Bowl”

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25 minutes ago, BigWillie said:

And why is that? Probably because this team has yet to win with any consistency. Think 2013 when we were winning how the crowds looked. See HoD bowl attendance.

Boiling it down to one thing that has been said 100000 times on here......

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Joe Green and company played their last college game here before less than 5,000 people. Put the blame where it really lies——apathetic students and a town who considers itself too cultured for football. Has not changed in 75 years and never will. If NT played in Lewisville, Frisco, Allen or Plano sell outs would be the norm, but Denton would rather have a few hundred show to see someone toot a horn.

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I am not excited at all about a NIL Scrimmage Bowl at SMU with people who didn't start this year and probably won't start next season either. Win, lose, or draw, it is a meaningless game. 

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41 minutes ago, BigWillie said:

And why is that? Probably because this team has yet to win with any consistency. Think 2013 when we were winning how the crowds looked. See HoD bowl attendance.

Boiling it down to one thing that has been said 100000 times on here......

Amazon Football GIF by NFL On Prime Video

Definitely a HUGE part of it but lots of other programs that don’t win consistently have better game day participation by their students for on campus football games.  It just a lack of vision by our university when it comes to athletics in general.  The new stadium should have been more centrally located than Fouts or just built on top of it.  I pushed back and others calling our students “weirdos in another thread.  General it seems like the Adminstration doesn’t understand the harder you make it to get to games that we don’t win the fewer the amount of people/students will show up.   If DATCU was across the street from the SuperPit or in the footprint of the old Fry Street area, I think you would see an average of 10% more students actually inside the stadiums.   The Fry Street area would have been harder to acquire and building within the Fouts (and adjacent parking lot) footprint may have required borrowing another stadium for a year or two.  But it would have been worth it in the long term and significant because it would be a symbol that athletics are an essential part of the experience they want to provide traditional on campus students.  Winning helps but fixing the culture takes more than just that.  And fixing the culture is the only way you can have a down season or two that doesn’t turn into 5 or 10 bad season.   

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34 minutes ago, Meangreen Fight said:

Definitely a HUGE part of it but lots of other programs that don’t win consistently have better game day participation by their students for on campus football games.  It just a lack of vision by our university when it comes to athletics in general.  The new stadium should have been more centrally located than Fouts or just built on top of it.  I pushed back and others calling our students “weirdos in another thread.  General it seems like the Adminstration doesn’t understand the harder you make it to get to games that we don’t win the fewer the amount of people/students will show up.   If DATCU was across the street from the SuperPit or in the footprint of the old Fry Street area, I think you would see an average of 10% more students actually inside the stadiums.   The Fry Street area would have been harder to acquire and building within the Fouts (and adjacent parking lot) footprint may have required borrowing another stadium for a year or two.  But it would have been worth it in the long term and significant because it would be a symbol that athletics are an essential part of the experience they want to provide traditional on campus students.  Winning helps but fixing the culture takes more than just that.  And fixing the culture is the only way you can have a down season or two that doesn’t turn into 5 or 10 bad season.   

I get the culture part of it, but it isn't as big of a thing as some make it out to be. Look at UTSA as a prime example. They had consistent winning before this last year and it increased their attendance.

And there is no way you can tell me their game day experience is better than ours. They don't even have their own stadium!

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48 minutes ago, KingDL1 said:

Win, lose, or draw, it is a meaningless game. 

I think the die hards feel this way, but the casuals are different.   A win could garner more interest for next season. 

We’re the only game in the Friday time slot, we’re on ESPN, and we’re before the Mayo Bowl.  The potential is there. 

This is EM’s first bowl game.  I’m excited for a different result.  I don’t need the points…I’m taking North Texas to win outright!

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6 minutes ago, Glory to the Green said:

I think the die hards feel this way, but the casuals are different.   A win could garner more interest for next season. 

We’re the only game in the Friday time slot, we’re on ESPN, and we’re before the Mayo Bowl.  The potential is there. 

This is EM’s first bowl game.  I’m excited for a different result.  I don’t need the points…I’m taking North Texas to win outright!

Tell me you haven't followed NT long, without telling me you haven't followed NT long.

See our history of big games to understand what I mean.

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2 minutes ago, BigWillie said:

Tell me you haven't followed NT long, without telling me you haven't followed NT long.

See our history of big games to understand what I mean.

I’ve been around since 2001, so I’m aware of some of the highs and lows of our program.   

I also referred to this being EM’s first bowl game.  I usually have a half glass full attitude.

Regardless, I’m looking forward to tailgating and cheering on the Mean Green. Hope to see you all there.  

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I know we spew a lot of you know what at Denton not caring, but have we consistently outreached throughout the year? Our community. Our potential fans. Nothing is given. It must be earned 365 days a year not just basketball and football and soccer and softball season. 

In addition to uniform pics, birthday announcements, how about some community pics: new alliance announcements (this can be expanded beyond Denton), volunteer efforts - players visiting schools, hospitals, assisted living facilities…I would love to see these great connective photos. The media will never share them but we are the media. Blast our outreach efforts often loud and proud. They will get shared and celebrated on social media. 

It’s why SMU has so few fans in Dallas. There is no connection to the city and people of the community. Their fans are alums and some of highland park. I’ve never seen SMU do a Hispanic night, a teachers appreciation day…they could have a highland park high school day and bump their attendance - they may.

In Dallas these college programs need to run their marketing and promotions departments like a pro team and none of us do. 

GMG

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28 minutes ago, Glory to the Green said:

I think the die hards feel this way, but the casuals are different.   A win could garner more interest for next season. 

We’re the only game in the Friday time slot, we’re on ESPN, and we’re before the Mayo Bowl.  The potential is there. 

This is EM’s first bowl game.  I’m excited for a different result.  I don’t need the points…I’m taking North Texas to win outright!

Maybe so, and I hope we win, which would help. But I think it will look sloppy, like a scrimmage, and if we lose to TS, it will be even worse. 

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1 hour ago, DallasGreen said:

 a town who considers itself too cultured for football.

Cultured is not the word I would use to describe Denton.  

Artsy is more what I think of.  Hippies, Fry Street, artists, music and writers.  

Like Berkeley on a smaller scale.  Not an easy type crowd to sell your college football tickets and program to.

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1 hour ago, Glory to the Green said:

I don’t need the points…I’m taking North Texas to win outright!

We’re drinking out of the same bottle.

GMG

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