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This was my 81st men's basketball game since my freshman year in 2014. Best game I've seen in person, and I was in Ruston for the big comeback against LA Tech. Overcome an 18-point lead against a

greenjoe
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What a finish.  The way go get around the ESPN and ESPN2 and all the alphabet soup is to come to the games.  There’s nothing like all the fans standing and yelling “DEFENSE” or NORTH, TEXAS, NORTH, TE

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I was on a flight that happened to have the U available (thanks JetBlue) I’m pretty sure I was close to having an air marshal have to speak to me in the first half. 

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From the UAB fan forum...

https://csnbbs.com/thread-1003975.html

MyBB North Texas Mean Green

UAB (138) at North Texas (72), Tuesday 31 December 2024 (3 PM)

The Mean Green finished their OOC schedule at 9-3. Strength of schedule was 176.

Best wins: Oregon State (65) and Northern Iowa (95)
Worst loss: High Point (117)
Common Opponent: High Point. Both UAB and North Texas played at High Point (NC). North Texas lost by 5 while UAB lost by 3.

As is typical with North Texas, they play the game of basketball at a snail’s pace. Their adjusted tempo ranks 356 out of 364. UAB is at 68th. North Texas also creates a lot of turnovers when on defense. They are 4th in the nation in percentage of steals.

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Quad 1: 0-1
Quad 2: 2-2
Quad 3: 1-0
Quad 4: 4-0

UAB is a Quad 4 home game for North Texas.

KenPom: North Texas 76 - UAB 67
Barttorvik: North Texas 76 - UAB 65
Massey: North Texas 73 - UAB 69
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I'll be there. How is everyone feeling as we enter conference play? Overall I'm feeling good.

We are 2nd in NET in the conference. The two best publicly available models, KenPom and Bart Torvik, have us as the 2nd best team in conference and finishing that way. Our defense has been really good; it's actually better than last season. The biggest improvement is in the defensive rebounding. We are pulling down 74.8% of defensive boards compared to 68% last year.

Of course the team isn't without concerns. Although we start the same lineup every game, we haven't found a consistent closing one. There isn't a 'go to' scorer. The shot creation and/or shooting has been lacking in long stretches. So far our adjusted offensive efficiency is the lowest it's been since the 2019 season, but I don't think (hope) it will necessarily stay that way.

I'd be disappointed if we don't finish at least top 4 in conference. The conference, as others have noted in many threads, just isn't as good as last season. Last season there were 4 other teams in the top 100 of KenPom and 7 in the top 150. This season there are 2 other teams in the top 100 and 5 in the top 150. Last year in conference we played 3 Q1 games and 5 Q2 games; this year we're projected to play 1 Q1 game and 3 Q2 games.

A top 4 finish in conference means that we would need to win 3 games in Ft. Worth to go to the big dance. That's always the dream. The NIT as the consolation prize wouldn't be bad either. Could we host a NIT game again? Last year Indiana St., Princeton, and Bradley hosted opening round games. That would be a fun atmosphere.

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2 hours ago, Son Of A Flying Worm said:

I'll be there. How is everyone feeling as we enter conference play? Overall I'm feeling good.

We are 2nd in NET in the conference. The two best publicly available models, KenPom and Bart Torvik, have us as the 2nd best team in conference and finishing that way. Our defense has been really good; it's actually better than last season. The biggest improvement is in the defensive rebounding. We are pulling down 74.8% of defensive boards compared to 68% last year.

Of course the team isn't without concerns. Although we start the same lineup every game, we haven't found a consistent closing one. There isn't a 'go to' scorer. The shot creation and/or shooting has been lacking in long stretches. So far our adjusted offensive efficiency is the lowest it's been since the 2019 season, but I don't think (hope) it will necessarily stay that way.

I'd be disappointed if we don't finish at least top 4 in conference. The conference, as others have noted in many threads, just isn't as good as last season. Last season there were 4 other teams in the top 100 of KenPom and 7 in the top 150. This season there are 2 other teams in the top 100 and 5 in the top 150. Last year in conference we played 3 Q1 games and 5 Q2 games; this year we're projected to play 1 Q1 game and 3 Q2 games.

A top 4 finish in conference means that we would need to win 3 games in Ft. Worth to go to the big dance. That's always the dream. The NIT as the consolation prize wouldn't be bad either. Could we host a NIT game again? Last year Indiana St., Princeton, and Bradley hosted opening round games. That would be a fun atmosphere.

This year seems to be the year of which top 3/4 teams will find a way to lose a game or 2 to one of the teams in the bottom 1/2 of the league and cause them to gain a L in the L column that will drop them for tournament seeding/ regular season conference championship.

 

I say that as this isn't the year you can rely on the middle 5-9 to help even the Loss column out if you happen to fall to one of the lower half teams in conference.  IMO there is a clear 1-4/5 and after that a substantial drop in the level of competition.

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4 hours ago, Son Of A Flying Worm said:

Of course the team isn't without concerns. Although we start the same lineup every game, we haven't found a consistent closing one. There isn't a 'go to' scorer. The shot creation and/or shooting has been lacking in long stretches. So far our adjusted offensive efficiency is the lowest it's been since the 2019 season, but I don't think (hope) it will necessarily stay that way.

The NIT as the consolation prize wouldn't be bad either. Could we host a NIT game again? Last year Indiana St., Princeton, and Bradley hosted opening round games. That would be a fun atmosphere.

Consistency and efficiency on offense are the biggest concerns to me.  And as mentioned, no go-to shooter.  We have long periods of stagnant offense.  10 passes around the horn to end up with a rushed, unplanned shot is not a good offense.  Multiple missed layups and free throws each game are also a concern.

Fox Sports is launching a new post-season tourney this year.  Thus, the NIT is changing it's selection process to combat it. (think more Brand name teams to lure viewers and sponsors)...

AI Overview

Yes, the NIT is changing its selection process for the 2025 tournament, with the most significant change being the allocation of "exempt" bids to the top two non-NCAA Tournament teams from the ACC and SEC, essentially giving them automatic bids to counter the new College Basketball Crown tournament launched by Fox Sports; this change is primarily aimed at maintaining relevance in the evolving college basketball postseason landscape. 
 
Key points about the new NIT selection process:
  • "Exempt" bids:
    16 teams will receive "exempt" bids based on their ranking, with the ACC and SEC getting two automatic bids each. 
     
  • Power conference focus:
    The new format prioritizes the top non-NCAA Tournament teams from the major conferences, particularly the ACC and SEC, to compete with the College Basketball Crown. 
     
  • Response to competition:
    These changes are seen as a response to the new Fox Sports-backed tournament, which has secured deals with the Big Ten, Big 12, and Big East. 
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2 hours ago, Matt from A700 said:

I would be disappointed if it's not us and Memphis in the conference title game at Dickies.

Memphis beating #16 Ole Miss the other day was huge for them. If we somehow can pull that win off along with the UAB win, we might be able to get some votes...

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On 12/26/2024 at 8:24 PM, CMJ said:

Opening up conference play on the last day of the year.  Now things get real.

My personal line is UAB by 3.  Hope to ukfay to be ongwray

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53 minutes ago, bstnsportsfan3 said:

the 3 pm start time ( on a work day) will keep me from being at the super pit tomorrow

That's a problem for our Bowl also on Friday.

I think the 3pm kickoff on a workday will keep some locally from attending and many Nationally from watching.

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23 hours ago, GMG24 said:

This year seems to be the year of which top 3/4 teams will find a way to lose a game or 2 to one of the teams in the bottom 1/2 of the league and cause them to gain a L in the L column that will drop them for tournament seeding/ regular season conference championship.

 

I say that as this isn't the year you can rely on the middle 5-9 to help even the Loss column out if you happen to fall to one of the lower half teams in conference.  IMO there is a clear 1-4/5 and after that a substantial drop in the level of competition.

Definitely agree that there is a steeper drop off in the bottom half of the conference this season. There are 4 teams that are 200+ in KenPom. That doesn't even include Rice who lost to our little brother.

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20 hours ago, Matt from A700 said:

I would be disappointed if it's not us and Memphis in the conference title game at Dickies.

Love the spirit. We are capable of being there, and winning the title game, but right now the offense gives me too much reservation to necessarily consider anything else a disappointment.

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47 minutes ago, Son Of A Flying Worm said:

Love the spirit. We are capable of being there, and winning the title game, but right now the offense gives me too much reservation to necessarily consider anything else a disappointment.

I am holding out hope that the guys are still trying to find their stride glueing together offensively.  I'd like to see Walker, Massie cut / drive hard to the basket.  I'd also like to see some actual sets to get Wright some nice easy uncontested or semi contested shots early that way when he has to make much more difficult ones late in shot clock he's seen a few go in.  I am also really excited about Lorient's progression offensively, he seems to be more confident each game.  If we can get Jossell, Floyd and Sissoko to just provde 8/10 each and Sissoko will grab 10-12 Boards I really like our chances against most teams in the league.  Memphis being the massive outlier as their talent level is through the roof and it appears that Hardaway has figured out the "culture" of his program as his guys are all seemingly playing together and not to get theres.

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26 minutes ago, GMG24 said:

I am holding out hope that the guys are still trying to find their stride glueing together offensively.  I'd like to see Walker, Massie cut / drive hard to the basket.  I'd also like to see some actual sets to get Wright some nice easy uncontested or semi contested shots early that way when he has to make much more difficult ones late in shot clock he's seen a few go in.  I am also really excited about Lorient's progression offensively, he seems to be more confident each game.  If we can get Jossell, Floyd and Sissoko to just provde 8/10 each and Sissoko will grab 10-12 Boards I really like our chances against most teams in the league.  Memphis being the massive outlier as their talent level is through the roof and it appears that Hardaway has figured out the "culture" of his program as his guys are all seemingly playing together and not to get theres.

Agreed. We’ve got to run some action to free Wright up to get some uncontested shots consistently. He seems to be a pretty quality shooter, but unlike Edwards and Perry, does not have the 1 on 1 game to create his own shot. 

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