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The Athletes did not have a say in when college sports when the seeds of its ruin were sowed.  Actually a former College Athlete on the Supreme Court DISSENTED against this majority opinion:

"The NCAA position that an interest in maintaining a competitive balance justified the television plan was also rejected.[21] While agreeing with the desire to maintain such a balance, Stevens noted that there was no evidence that the plan succeeded in that effort.[fn 9] The decision of the circuit court was affirmed.[26]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_v._Board_of_Regents_of_the_University_of_Oklahoma

So please keep this in mind before you come for the athletes and their "disloyal ways" because it is the system that has the power and teaching them their "disloyal ways".   Everyone else Media Distributers, Commercial Sponsors, NIL contributers and Private Individual Sponsors are just buying product. 

And if you are a secondary fan of the Oklahoma Sooners on this board complaining about the system please preface criticism of the system or greedy immature athletes with "I know I am a hypocrite but....."

 

 

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I'm pretty sure it was the Northwestern players that started all of this back in 2013 when they started to demand compensation. So yeah, the players are just as guilty. 

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32 minutes ago, Rudy said:

I'm pretty sure it was the Northwestern players that started all of this back in 2013 when they started to demand compensation. So yeah, the players are just as guilty. 

I believe UCLA basketball player, Ed O'Bannion, is the one that started this mess when he sued the NCAA for profitting from his name/image/likeness on EA Sports NCAA Basketball video game back in 2009. 

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No doubt a lot of the institutions are very greedy but the players are doing their damned best to catch up on the great factor as quick as possible and they are making up for lost time. Say what you want about who's responsible,  but when your transferring three to four times you are greedy. So you can blame everyone they are equally at fault but don't think for a minute that 90% of the players give a damn about what's best for the game just as the university presidents are hypocrites in the fact that they let this run so far out of whack.

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30 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

No doubt a lot of the institutions are very greedy but the players are doing their damned best to catch up on the great factor as quick as possible and they are making up for lost time. Say what you want about who's responsible,  but when your transferring three to four times you are greedy. So you can blame everyone they are equally at fault but don't think for a minute that 90% of the players give a damn about what's best for the game just as the university presidents are hypocrites in the fact that they let this run so far out of whack.

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Capitalism enters college athletics and suddenly the 60 year old Texans lose their shit... Do not blame the players. This is a system that has been coming for the past few decades. We choose to worship college athletics in the United States unlike any other culture, so understanding HOW this came into reality is actually quite simple...

 

I hate it... I always will hate it and obviously I am not alone... But if you had a son that was getting offered hundreds of thousands or MILLIONS of dollars to transfer, would you still be blaming the players?

 

 

 

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This is the responsibility and result of greedy corporate interests, Misuse and lack of NCAA regulation towards large athletic brands, and a general shift away from the amateur style of athletics that dominated the collegiate level for over a century....

 

We unfortunately are not going back. The cat is out of the bag and the elite programs have snagged all the necessary power to ensure they get what they want. 

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2 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

No doubt a lot of the institutions are very greedy but the players are doing their damned best to catch up on the great factor as quick as possible and they are making up for lost time. Say what you want about who's responsible,  but when your transferring three to four times you are greedy. So you can blame everyone they are equally at fault but don't think for a minute that 90% of the players give a damn about what's best for the game just as the university presidents are hypocrites in the fact that they let this run so far out of whack.

Are you really going to call a 20 year old college student "greedy" for trying to make the most amount of money they possibly can? Look up the statistics of how many college players go pro and then tell me money shouldn't be important to them...

 

Hate the game, not the player. 

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3 minutes ago, rojomojo said:

Are you really going to call a 20 year old college student "greedy" for trying to make the most amount of money they possibly can? Look up the statistics of how many college players go pro and then tell me money shouldn't be important to them...

 

Hate the game, not the player. 

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1 hour ago, rojomojo said:

Are you really going to call a 20 year old college student "greedy" for trying to make the most amount of money they possibly can? Look up the statistics of how many college players go pro and then tell me money shouldn't be important to them...

 

Hate the game, not the player. 

Yes, they are.
It's not simply that they are trying to maximize the money, but HOW they are doing it.  Each player is entitled to do it however they want, but doing it in a way that is completely self-centered and void of any commitment to your team, your school, and its fans, then that is being greedy.  Again, you're allowed to do it, but don't be offended if somebody calls you greedy for doing it.

A simplistic analogy that stays on the sports field would be a running back that breaks away for the final first down with 20 seconds to go in a 1 point game.  Instead of sliding down at the 40, he chooses to keep running in order to score another TD, but he gets the ball knocked out.  The other team runs it back inside the 10 and is able to kick a last second FG to win. You could say that he's just trying to maximize his stats (true and valid), but his GREED in doing this cost his TEAM the game.

Now, as has been said, this situation isn't the fault of one specific side but from multiple sources.  But as was stated, the students are now starting to increase their impact on this runaway system.

BTW - it was questioned in an earlier thread as to who started this whole NIL thing and as someone mentioned, it was Ed O’Bannon UCLA BB.

https://www.on3.com/nil/news/what-are-nil-collectives-and-how-do-they-operate/

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