Ivy League Will Join the FCS Playoffs

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Starting in 2025, the Ivy League will participate in the FCS playoffs and the winner of the conference will get an automatic bid.

Football was the only sport where the Ivy League did not compete for a national championship.

The idea to join the FCS playoffs originated with a proposal from the league's student-athlete advisory committee.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/43040720/sources-ivy-league-participate-fcs-football-playoffs

[Wag Tag]

G5 wake F ing up! The money is in the playoffs, not going to the Potato Chip Bowl!!!

[meanJewGreen]

Just now, Wag Tag said:

G5 wake F ing up! The money is in the playoffs, not going to the Potato Chip Bowl!!!

G5 NIT

Top 24 schools. 

All games at home sites (neutral site games are dumb)

Byes for conference champs (and maybe second place) 

Army, Tulane Navy Memphis

Jax State, WKU SHSU Liberty

Miami (OH), Ohio, BGSU, Buffalo

UNLV Colorado State Fresno SJSU

Louisiana Marshall JMU GA Southern 

Wild Card: Uconn- TX state, Ark State, ECU

 

maybe thats too many, but could be fun. 

[wardly]

1 hour ago, meanJewGreen said:

G5 NIT

Top 24 schools. 

All games at home sites (neutral site games are dumb)

Byes for conference champs (and maybe second place) 

Army, Tulane Navy Memphis

Jax State, WKU SHSU Liberty

Miami (OH), Ohio, BGSU, Buffalo

UNLV Colorado State Fresno SJSU

Louisiana Marshall JMU GA Southern 

Wild Card: Uconn- TX state, Ark State, ECU

 

maybe thats too many, but could be fun. 

The G 6 programs should have their own football playoff system just like 1AA does. Throw in the PAC ,perhaps scale back to 3 teams per conference with 2 wild cards for a total of 20 . I don't recall the number of 1AA teams involved in their playoff system but what ever the number it works.

[meanJewGreen]

2 hours ago, wardly said:

The G 6 programs should have their own football playoff system just like 1AA does. Throw in the PAC ,perhaps scale back to 3 teams per conference with 2 wild cards for a total of 20 . I don't recall the number of 1AA teams involved in their playoff system but what ever the number it works.

24. With 8 byes. 

 

[wardly]

1 hour ago, meanJewGreen said:

24. With 8 byes. 

 

Thanks for the info

[GMG_Dallas]

There is zero reason to create a G5 playoff until effectively pushed out of the big boys playoff. If the G5s created their own playoff, it would give the P4 additional ammo to remove us from future FBS plans. The Big 12 barely made this playoff. You think they're going to make any attempt to break away? Of course not.

I watched some FCS playoff games on ESPN+ this past weekend. There's no media money to be made with a G5 playoff. If you want to create an NIT type system with some guaranteed bids for G5 champs who don't make the playoff then fine. That would bring opportunity to knock off P4 programs in a playoff environment but by no means can we afford to willingly separate. Make them evict us.

Edited Wednesday at 10:03 PM by GMG_Dallas

[Wag Tag]

10 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

There is zero reason to create a G5 playoff until effectively pushed out of the big boys playoff. If the G5s created their own playoff, it would give the P4 additional ammo to remove us from future FBS plans. The Big 12 barely made this playoff. You think they're going to make any attempt to break away? Of course not.

I watched some FCS playoff games on ESPN+ this past weekend. There's no media money to be made with a G5 playoff. If you want to create an NIT type system with some guaranteed bids for G5 champs who don't make the playoff then fine. That would bring opportunity to knock off P4 programs in a playoff environment but by no means can we afford to willingly separate. Make them evict us.

Same O same O!! We are the only football conf without a playoff and I’m including High School. To compare an FCS school to a school with an enrollment of anywhere from 25 to 40k makes no sense . You make my point big 12 barely got in you think a G5 with strength of schedule is going to get in? Power 5 goal is to become more and more exclusive.    Wake Up!!!

[Coffee and TV]

29 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

I watched some FCS playoff games on ESPN+ this past weekend. There's no media money to be made with a G5 playoff.

You watched but there's no market for it? What sort of numbers did the games on the regular ESPNs do, cause I feel like more and more people are paying attention post-NDSU domination. 

[EAGLE83]

This the same argument we had when we dropped  to AAin the 80s. Money dried up. We had some playoffs but not much support.

[GMG_Dallas]

32 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:

Same O same O!! We are the only football conf without a playoff and I’m including High School. To compare an FCS school to a school with an enrollment of anywhere from 25 to 40k makes no sense . You make my point big 12 barely got in you think a G5 with strength of schedule is going to get in? Power 5 goal is to become more and more exclusive.    Wake Up!!!

Why would you willingly uninvite yourself to the party? Make them get rid of you. 

[GMG_Dallas]

21 minutes ago, Coffee and TV said:

You watched but there's no market for it? What sort of numbers did the games on the regular ESPNs do, cause I feel like more and more people are paying attention post-NDSU domination. 

If there were a market for it, the playoff games wouldn't be on ESPN+.

Edit, I don't have the answer to your second question. I would however want to know how long it took for people to start paying attention. Would it take an NDSU like run for people to care? If that's the case, we'd need a G5 program to establish itself as the NDSU of the G5 which may never happen outside of Boise State. Why would Boise State uninvited themselves to the playoffs they just got into?

Edited Wednesday at 10:57 PM by GMG_Dallas

[Coffee and TV]

Just now, GMG_Dallas said:

If there were a market for it, the playoff games wouldn't be on ESPN+.

Sort of like the AAC? 

They weren't all on ESPN+ is my point though, and you still tuned in. 

[GMG_Dallas]

1 minute ago, Coffee and TV said:

Sort of like the AAC? 

They weren't all on ESPN+ is my point though, and you still tuned in. 

Yeah, sort of.

I tuned in because I had nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, better to do.

[GMG_Dallas]

Here's the FCS playoff ratings on major networks. https://herosports.com/fcs-football-tv-viewership-ratings-playoffs-bzbz/

NDSU and SDSU seem to drive ratings. Makes sense considering they are the premiere programs in their states.

[greenminer]

10 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

NDSU and SDSU seem to drive ratings. Makes sense considering they are the premiere programs in their states.

People love a villain.

Edited Wednesday at 11:15 PM by greenminer

[Coffee and TV]

9 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Here's the FCS playoff ratings on major networks. https://herosports.com/fcs-football-tv-viewership-ratings-playoffs-bzbz/

NDSU and SDSU seem to drive ratings. Makes sense considering they are the premiere programs in their states.

Higher than any of our 3 regular season games on ESPN2, correct me if I'm wrong 

First Round:

Tennessee State at Montana (ESPN2) — 263K

[meangreenfaninno]

8 minutes ago, Coffee and TV said:

Higher than any of our 3 regular season games on ESPN2, correct me if I'm wrong 

First Round:

Tennessee State at Montana (ESPN2) — 263K

You beat me to the punch.

[GMG_Dallas]

1 hour ago, Coffee and TV said:

Higher than any of our 3 regular season games on ESPN2, correct me if I'm wrong 

First Round:

Tennessee State at Montana (ESPN2) — 263K

Again, Montana. One of the premiere programs for their state and that game had the same time slot as 3 total FBS games - Houston vs BYU, Air Force vs SDSU, New Mexico vs Hawaii (10pm).

In other news, second round:

2023 Second Round:

Southern Illinois at Idaho (ESPN2) — 132K

Also, false, we had 313k against UTSA on ESPN2. Also, 322k against Army on ESPN2. FCS playoff viewership seems to benefit from being played when FBS games are not on.

Edited Thursday at 12:42 AM by GMG_Dallas

[Wag Tag]

1 hour ago, EAGLE83 said:

This the same argument we had when we dropped  to AAin the 80s. Money dried up. We had some playoffs but not much support.

You realize you are talking over 40 yrs ago? Yea maybe things have changed.

[NT93]

3 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

…by no means can we afford to willingly separate. Make them evict us.

Exactly.  Once the top 40 (or whatever the number is) breaks away, then you have some name schools with large followings that could make a “G5” playoff successful.  There will be some Texas Tech, Kansas St., Baylor type schools that get left behind and become our equals.  That’s when we break away, but not before then.

Edited Thursday at 01:39 AM by NT93

[Censored by Laurie]

6 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

 it would give the P4 additional ammo to remove us from future FBS plans.

in what sort of world do you in any sort of way conceive of UNT being a part of any future FBS plans? 

[Aquila_Viridis]

Moving to AA was not the problem. A lack of commitment to winning in AA was the problem. I have no interest whether NT has a ‘chance’ to play for a national championship. Nor any interest in whether the Texas Techs, TCUs etc of the world look up to or down on us. Nor whether there is tv money or the ability to watch the games on tv. Nor whether we get a share of the crumb that the ‘P4’ leave.
I want a team that consistently wins more games than it loses, and especially so for the home games. I also very much do not want this team to play - not ever - against programs that have a much bigger budget and commitment to winning at whatever level. We can’t wait around for all this to keep shaking out; it is an endless slow death. I’ve had enough anyway but the changes in the industry require drastic and immediate action.
The leadership of the university should figure out how to make that happen by appealing very directly in a funding campaign to the alumni and students and community, to support it. That would require a convincing plan about how to use the resources. Those plans, commitment and appeals are what we have never had from this university.

North Carolina of all places is spending $10 million a year for an NFL coach. We cannot be part of the same league as this anymore.

[Salsa_Verde]

Dropping down to FCS would be an incredibly idiotic move.

[NT80]

14 hours ago, Wag Tag said:

G5 wake F ing up! The money is in the playoffs, not going to the Potato Chip Bowl!!!

Few nationally care or watch FCS or Dll playoffs.   The same would go for G5 playoffs.

BTW, Dll Championship game is at McKinney ISD Stadium Saturday at 1pm.  Who knew?