Ivy League Will Join the FCS Playoffs

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Starting in 2025, the Ivy League will participate in the FCS playoffs and the winner of the conference will get an automatic bid.

Football was the only sport where the Ivy League did not compete for a national championship.

The idea to join the FCS playoffs originated with a proposal from the league's student-athlete advisory committee.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/43040720/sources-ivy-league-participate-fcs-football-playoffs

[Wag Tag]

G5 wake F ing up! The money is in the playoffs, not going to the Potato Chip Bowl!!!

[meanJewGreen]

Just now, Wag Tag said:

G5 wake F ing up! The money is in the playoffs, not going to the Potato Chip Bowl!!!

G5 NIT

Top 24 schools. 

All games at home sites (neutral site games are dumb)

Byes for conference champs (and maybe second place) 

Army, Tulane Navy Memphis

Jax State, WKU SHSU Liberty

Miami (OH), Ohio, BGSU, Buffalo

UNLV Colorado State Fresno SJSU

Louisiana Marshall JMU GA Southern 

Wild Card: Uconn- TX state, Ark State, ECU

 

maybe thats too many, but could be fun. 

[wardly]

1 hour ago, meanJewGreen said:

G5 NIT

Top 24 schools. 

All games at home sites (neutral site games are dumb)

Byes for conference champs (and maybe second place) 

Army, Tulane Navy Memphis

Jax State, WKU SHSU Liberty

Miami (OH), Ohio, BGSU, Buffalo

UNLV Colorado State Fresno SJSU

Louisiana Marshall JMU GA Southern 

Wild Card: Uconn- TX state, Ark State, ECU

 

maybe thats too many, but could be fun. 

The G 6 programs should have their own football playoff system just like 1AA does. Throw in the PAC ,perhaps scale back to 3 teams per conference with 2 wild cards for a total of 20 . I don't recall the number of 1AA teams involved in their playoff system but what ever the number it works.

[meanJewGreen]

2 hours ago, wardly said:

The G 6 programs should have their own football playoff system just like 1AA does. Throw in the PAC ,perhaps scale back to 3 teams per conference with 2 wild cards for a total of 20 . I don't recall the number of 1AA teams involved in their playoff system but what ever the number it works.

24. With 8 byes. 

 

[wardly]

1 hour ago, meanJewGreen said:

24. With 8 byes. 

 

Thanks for the info

[GMG_Dallas]

There is zero reason to create a G5 playoff until effectively pushed out of the big boys playoff. If the G5s created their own playoff, it would give the P4 additional ammo to remove us from future FBS plans. The Big 12 barely made this playoff. You think they're going to make any attempt to break away? Of course not.

I watched some FCS playoff games on ESPN+ this past weekend. There's no media money to be made with a G5 playoff. If you want to create an NIT type system with some guaranteed bids for G5 champs who don't make the playoff then fine. That would bring opportunity to knock off P4 programs in a playoff environment but by no means can we afford to willingly separate. Make them evict us.

Edited 2 hours ago by GMG_Dallas

[Wag Tag]

10 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

There is zero reason to create a G5 playoff until effectively pushed out of the big boys playoff. If the G5s created their own playoff, it would give the P4 additional ammo to remove us from future FBS plans. The Big 12 barely made this playoff. You think they're going to make any attempt to break away? Of course not.

I watched some FCS playoff games on ESPN+ this past weekend. There's no media money to be made with a G5 playoff. If you want to create an NIT type system with some guaranteed bids for G5 champs who don't make the playoff then fine. That would bring opportunity to knock off P4 programs in a playoff environment but by no means can we afford to willingly separate. Make them evict us.

Same O same O!! We are the only football conf without a playoff and I’m including High School. To compare an FCS school to a school with an enrollment of anywhere from 25 to 40k makes no sense . You make my point big 12 barely got in you think a G5 with strength of schedule is going to get in? Power 5 goal is to become more and more exclusive.    Wake Up!!!

[Coffee and TV]

29 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

I watched some FCS playoff games on ESPN+ this past weekend. There's no media money to be made with a G5 playoff.

You watched but there's no market for it? What sort of numbers did the games on the regular ESPNs do, cause I feel like more and more people are paying attention post-NDSU domination. 

[EAGLE83]

This the same argument we had when we dropped  to AAin the 80s. Money dried up. We had some playoffs but not much support.

[GMG_Dallas]

32 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:

Same O same O!! We are the only football conf without a playoff and I’m including High School. To compare an FCS school to a school with an enrollment of anywhere from 25 to 40k makes no sense . You make my point big 12 barely got in you think a G5 with strength of schedule is going to get in? Power 5 goal is to become more and more exclusive.    Wake Up!!!

Why would you willingly uninvite yourself to the party? Make them get rid of you. 

[GMG_Dallas]

21 minutes ago, Coffee and TV said:

You watched but there's no market for it? What sort of numbers did the games on the regular ESPNs do, cause I feel like more and more people are paying attention post-NDSU domination. 

If there were a market for it, the playoff games wouldn't be on ESPN+.

Edit, I don't have the answer to your second question. I would however want to know how long it took for people to start paying attention. Would it take an NDSU like run for people to care? If that's the case, we'd need a G5 program to establish itself as the NDSU of the G5 which may never happen outside of Boise State. Why would Boise State uninvited themselves to the playoffs they just got into?

Edited 2 hours ago by GMG_Dallas

[Coffee and TV]

Just now, GMG_Dallas said:

If there were a market for it, the playoff games wouldn't be on ESPN+.

Sort of like the AAC? 

They weren't all on ESPN+ is my point though, and you still tuned in. 

[GMG_Dallas]

1 minute ago, Coffee and TV said:

Sort of like the AAC? 

They weren't all on ESPN+ is my point though, and you still tuned in. 

Yeah, sort of.

I tuned in because I had nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, better to do.

[GMG_Dallas]

Here's the FCS playoff ratings on major networks. https://herosports.com/fcs-football-tv-viewership-ratings-playoffs-bzbz/

NDSU and SDSU seem to drive ratings. Makes sense considering they are the premiere programs in their states.

[greenminer]

10 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

NDSU and SDSU seem to drive ratings. Makes sense considering they are the premiere programs in their states.

People love a villain.

Edited 1 hour ago by greenminer

[Coffee and TV]

9 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Here's the FCS playoff ratings on major networks. https://herosports.com/fcs-football-tv-viewership-ratings-playoffs-bzbz/

NDSU and SDSU seem to drive ratings. Makes sense considering they are the premiere programs in their states.

Higher than any of our 3 regular season games on ESPN2, correct me if I'm wrong 

First Round:

Tennessee State at Montana (ESPN2) — 263K

[meangreenfaninno]

8 minutes ago, Coffee and TV said:

Higher than any of our 3 regular season games on ESPN2, correct me if I'm wrong 

First Round:

Tennessee State at Montana (ESPN2) — 263K

You beat me to the punch.

[GMG_Dallas]

1 hour ago, Coffee and TV said:

Higher than any of our 3 regular season games on ESPN2, correct me if I'm wrong 

First Round:

Tennessee State at Montana (ESPN2) — 263K

Again, Montana. One of the premiere programs for their state and that game had the same time slot as 3 total FBS games - Houston vs BYU, Air Force vs SDSU, New Mexico vs Hawaii (10pm).

In other news, second round:

2023 Second Round:

Southern Illinois at Idaho (ESPN2) — 132K

Also, false, we had 313k against UTSA on ESPN2. Also, 322k against Army on ESPN2. FCS playoff viewership seems to benefit from being played when FBS games are not on.

Edited 16 minutes ago by GMG_Dallas

[Wag Tag]

1 hour ago, EAGLE83 said:

This the same argument we had when we dropped  to AAin the 80s. Money dried up. We had some playoffs but not much support.

You realize you are talking over 40 yrs ago? Yea maybe things have changed.