Great read - move it needed

[MeanGreen_MBA]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41136586/smu-football-acc-death-penalty-return-2024

[MeanGreen_MBA]

We need this

[NT80]

48 minutes ago, MeanGreen_MBA said:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41136586/smu-football-acc-death-penalty-return-2024

$mut will always be the poster child for cheating!   Their Highland Park culture and wealth demands they try.

[Aquila_Viridis]

E$PN will celebrate any team with scandals or money or both, but once TX and a&m feel any pain from $mu, then the process will be started to reduce them to miniature donkeys again.

[meaniegreenie]

1 hour ago, MeanGreen_MBA said:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41136586/smu-football-acc-death-penalty-return-2024

Good article.

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By that fall, the Boulevard Collective signed every football and basketball player to standard NIL deals of $36,000 annually, according to On3. The Ponies have the payroll working again, and this time it's all aboveboard.

I've mentioned this numerous times, but once again, exactly HOW does every player on that team deserve $36k for usage of their Name, Image, or Likeness? 

Other than his family and a few friends, there's not 5 people that know what the 3rd string left guard looks like or even what his name is and his name certainly isn't being used to garner profits for any other company.  I suspect there are no pictures of him available other than various roster images, etc. in which nobody is profiting from.

The ONLY place his name or likeness might show up is in NCAA FB video game, but that might has well use "player AA" instead of his name. EA Sports (or whoever) isn't making money due to this guy.

This seems like the kind of thing the smaller schools might could start going after.  Force the disclosure and accounting for how NIL money is being determined and spent.  Again, it's even more preposterous that an NIL value can be determined BEFORE a player has even appeared with the team, i.e. his Name, Image, or Likeness have generated $0 in revenue (with the exception of a few top players that generate marketing buzz).

[untjim1995]

The reality is that money talks. They have it. We don’t. Our advantage is in enrollment and alumni, but they just don’t care about our teams, much less the university. We can’t compete with the money or the prestige of those power programs. 

[meanJewGreen]

37 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

The reality is that money talks. They have it. We don’t. Our advantage is in enrollment and alumni, but they just don’t care about our teams, much less the university. We can’t compete with the money or the prestige of those power programs. 

Every article I read about SMU references how much these billionaires remember the good ole days of success and how motivated they were to find that again. There's a sense of care that obviously anyone who posts here has, but the general alumni seems.... less than enthused. 

I think there are plenty of alumni who talk fondly about our 4 straight NO Bowls (even though we went 1-3) but I feel like those 4 years don't quite move the needle like the Pony Express did. I fondly remember during my years beating OSU in basketball and the 2 NCAA berths, but most of my alumni friends excluding @Jason Howeth could have cared less.

[meanJewGreen]

Also, I love this sentence:

In the '60s and early '70s, Hayden Fry had just three winning seasons in 11 years at SMU, going 49-66-1 before becoming a legend at Iowa.

Casually forgetting his 40-23 record with us including the last time we were ranked 😞

[rcade]

1 hour ago, meaniegreenie said:

I've mentioned this numerous times, but once again, exactly HOW does every player on that team deserve $36k for usage of their Name, Image, or Likeness? 

SMU was the first school to announce a pay-the-whole-roster deal. It let the world know that the Piggybank Express was open for business again and it fostered team cohesion. Those benefits seem worth paying even the bottom of the roster like an assistant manager at Subway.

I am surprised SMU had any fat cats left who cared about football success. The 1980s was a long time ago. But I guess what the Hard Line used to call the "cocaine and boob job crowd" in Dallas wants a winner.

[NT80]

1 hour ago, meaniegreenie said:

Good article.

I've mentioned this numerous times, but once again, exactly HOW does every player on that team deserve $36k for usage of their Name, Image, or Likeness? 

 

NIL is just a fake name for fake work payments.

Let's call it what it really is:   Bribery, or Pay for Play.

[coachMULLINS]

SMU has their foot on the gas! 

[rcade]

1 hour ago, NT80 said:

NIL is just a fake name for fake work payments.

Let's call it what it really is:   Bribery, or Pay for Play.

You can't call it Pay for Play when they don't have to play to get paid.

NIL is an endorsement deal, like Walt Garrison making bank in those old Skoal tobacco ads. Except most of the time they don't even bother to make athletes do an ad. They just say "here's a big check for just being yourself."

[untjim1995]

5 hours ago, NT80 said:

NIL is just a fake name for fake work payments.

Let's call it what it really is:   Bribery, or Pay for Play.

Now it’s here to stay…it’s the future and only $$$ will let you into the club. Until the really powerful teams split off.

[Tom McKrackin]

SMU is here to stay this time.

[greenjoe]

Like it or not, the Hayden Fry story goes from SMU to Iowa.  He just stopped in Denton for gasoline.

[ChiefTenBeers2015]

So with SMU joining the ACC this season, no $ from the conference for what, like the next 7 years, or so? There must be a ton of $ being generating from CFP for the ACC…but not SMU…where is it all coming from? 

[NT80]

2 hours ago, Tom McKrackin said:

SMU is here to stay this time.

No.  Penn State will smack them back down to reality Saturday.

[meaniegreenie]

1 hour ago, greenjoe said:

Like it or not, the Hayden Fry story goes from SMU to Iowa.  He just stopped in Denton for gasoline.

I remember reading back then on the Internet that the real story was that he heading to Buc-ees but missed the exit and just kept on going.