Breaking: North Texas lands Miami QB Transfer (Free)

Censored by Laurie · 2024-12-18T14:42:01Z

22 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

This! I understand the staff wants to continue recruiting high school players, but especially at quarterback, how much time and effort should we put into developing a player for another school?

I still think the best path forward for a program like ours is to balance what is done in the portal with offering higher level incoming freshmen (maybe not 5 stars, but 3s and 4s) the opportunity at immediate/early playing time that is going to become scarcer and scarcer in the P4, even if the idea is that the freshmen leave after a season or two.

Tom McKrackin · 2024-12-18T14:44:57Z

1 minute ago, Censored by Laurie said:

I still think the best path forward for a program like ours is to balance what is done in the portal with offering higher level incoming freshmen (maybe not 5 stars, but 3s and 4s) the opportunity at immediate/early playing time that is going to become scarcer and scarcer in the P4, even if the idea is that the freshmen leave after a season or two.

I am good with this so long as you and others on here understand that if they can play they will be immediately gone. No more building for the future at our level. It is a team you build year to year. And if Morris has another mediocre season he needs to go!

97and03 · 2024-12-18T17:45:49Z

14 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

As much as Littrell gets heat around here, his era's QB play really spoiled us. McNulty and Greer were here, what? About 10 years ago?

Please don’t tell me you forgot about Aune mediocrity and the slew of failures they brought in to try to replace him repeatedly.

GMG_Dallas · 2024-12-18T21:07:37Z

3 hours ago, 97and03 said:

Please don’t tell me you forgot about Aune mediocrity and the slew of failures they brought in to try to replace him repeatedly.

And yet despite that, he holds the single season passing TD record for this program. The year before Fine, we would have all taken an Austin Aune. Again, we've been spoiled by that era's QB play.

Udomann · 2024-12-18T22:01:08Z

53 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

And yet despite that, he holds the single season passing TD record for this program. The year before Fine, we would have all taken an Austin Aune. Again, we've been spoiled by that era's QB play.

We've also been spoiled by the quality of opponents, which honestly, are mostly terrible

GMG_Dallas · 2024-12-18T22:48:36Z

44 minutes ago, Udomann said:

We've also been spoiled by the quality of opponents, which honestly, are mostly terrible

Correct. I'm not arguing Aune was a world beater. I'm just pointing out we've been spoiled since 2016. Ten years ago these are some of the names we were hoping would turn this program around at the QB position: Brock Berglund, Kevin Dillman, Caleb Chumley, Dajon Williams, Josh Greer, Connor Means, and Josh Cousins. Now we've got fans trashing a guy who had 3800 total yards and 42 total TDs in 2023 because it was at the FCS level. I don't know about you, but I'm picking this situation over what we had 12ish years ago.

3_n_out · 2024-12-18T23:59:07Z

Now we need to find targets for him to throw to and OL to block. Also, I hope EM has more than just screens in the playbook to call. It should be a really interesting spring to see who will come out as the top dog in the QB room.

meaniegreenie · 2024-12-19T00:15:13Z

18 hours ago, NT80 said:

He is supposed to be a good runner too.

I noticed that as well and intended to mention it.

At 6' 0", 208 lbs vs 191 lbs, maybe that 17 extra pounds is enough to gain 1ft at the goal line.
That's assuming we actually put him under center (once we get a new one).

3_n_out · 2024-12-19T02:59:19Z

2 hours ago, meaniegreenie said:

I noticed that as well and intended to mention it.

At 6' 0", 208 lbs vs 191 lbs, maybe that 17 extra pounds is enough to gain 1ft at the goal line.
That's assuming we actually put him under center (once we get a new one).

Perhaps because of his injury history, CM didn’t run as much as he could have. It would be a nice added wrinkle if our qb would be able to pick up some first downs on the run. That could definitely open things up more.

meaniegreenie · 2024-12-19T03:48:55Z

46 minutes ago, 3_n_out said:

Perhaps because of his injury history, CM didn’t run as much as he could have. It would be a nice added wrinkle if our qb would be able to pick up some first downs on the run. That could definitely open things up more.

There were numerous opportunities where he could have done that and slid to get the first down.
Instead, he forced a pass into a tough spot and we ended up stalling on the drive after 3 or 4 plays.

Meangreen Fight · 2024-12-19T12:30:54Z

On 12/18/2024 at 5:58 AM, GMG_Dallas said:

We can complain all we want about Aune but he holds the single season record in TD passes. While QB play wasn't perfect after Fine left, it was a heck of a lot better than right before Fine got here.

I completely understand that. This is no different than any HS prospect or even an FBS transfer. Not all QBs can replicate their previous success in a new system. I'd still rather have a guy who was accomplished than somebody who never saw the field.

Every transfer is a risk no matter what. Your logic is severely flawed though. Cam Ward was once a big time FCS transfer and was just a Heisman finalist with that Miami team you're trashing. Joe Burrow was once a career backup on an Ohio State team that couldn't win the championship and look what he did. If you want to get even crazier with it all, Stetson Bennett was once a walk-on who then transferred to a junior college before transferring back to Georgia to win a couple National Championships. We can go on forever with this. We got a guy with success at the D1 level. More success than Chandler Rogers had. There's no reason to believe he won't work out here.

What does work out mean? Big numbers another 6-6 season? So far that looks like that is ceiling for an Eric Morris team. Settle down, I didn’t say he would suck. I just suggested all the excitement is unwarranted. 🤦🏽‍♂️. Every example you mentioned, the QB was joining a very good roster compared to their conference rivals. That will likely not be the case here. So expecting any transfer to elevate a mediocre roster to a conference championship is just silly. And at the G5 level that is really the only realistic goal you can have entering the season. And using the atrocious passing offense and team records in the period before Seth is just lowering the bar. Many of us also thought Seth would have gotten more out of the talented Jason Bean who left here and had some really good games for Kansas.

GMG_Dallas · 2024-12-19T14:54:49Z

2 hours ago, Meangreen Fight said:

What does work out mean? Big numbers another 6-6 season? So far that looks like that is ceiling for an Eric Morris team. Settle down, I didn’t say he would suck. I just suggested all the excitement is unwarranted. 🤦🏽‍♂️. Every example you mentioned, the QB was joining a very good roster compared to their conference rivals. That will likely not be the case here. So expecting any transfer to elevate a mediocre roster to a conference championship is just silly. And at the G5 level that is really the only realistic goal you can have entering the season. And using the atrocious passing offense and team records in the period before Seth is just lowering the bar. Many of us also thought Seth would have gotten more out of the talented Jason Bean who left here and had some really good games for Kansas.

Ok so what's your suggestion? Don't get a QB? I'm confused as to what the end goal of your argument is. Regardless of who we get, we're going to suck? Looks like you're complaining just to complain.

Censored by Laurie · 2024-12-19T15:10:55Z

12 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Looks like you're complaining just to complain.

I'm going to develop an AI feature for the board that reads all the posts before they're submitted and sends a pop-up window stating: "looks like you're complaining just to complain. are you sure you want to continue?"

sort of a two-factor authentication for stupidity.

GMG_Dallas · 2024-12-19T16:09:24Z

57 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

I'm going to develop an AI feature for the board that reads all the posts before they're submitted and sends a pop-up window stating: "looks like you're complaining just to complain. are you sure you want to continue?"

sort of a two-factor authentication for stupidity.

Look, I've also been guilty of stupid complaints but this stuff he posted is on another level.

97and03 · 2024-12-19T16:30:39Z

1 hour ago, Censored by Laurie said:

I'm going to develop an AI feature for the board that reads all the posts before they're submitted and sends a pop-up window stating: "looks like you're complaining just to complain. are you sure you want to continue?"

sort of a two-factor authentication for stupidity.

I will always click “yes”

SilverEagle · 2024-12-19T16:32:06Z

1 hour ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Ok so what's your suggestion? Don't get a QB? I'm confused as to what the end goal of your argument is. Regardless of who we get, we're going to suck? Looks like you're complaining just to complain.

Sadly, one of the only North Texas traditions that make it from one NT generation to another. Wrinkled $100 bills are just as valid today as when I originally coined that analogy back in about 1973. TCU, has "RIFF RAM BAH ZOO" and we have "wrinkled $100 bills".