Marshall Drops Out of Independence Bowl

UNTLifer · 2024-12-15T02:54:13Z

La Tech sucks.

These bowls are ridiculous with their pricing. It is the equivalent to selling out an Elvis concert only to get this.

Austin Butler GIF by Baz Luhrmann’s Elvis Movie

Stix · 2024-12-15T03:27:35Z

32 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

La Tech sucks.

These bowls are ridiculous with their pricing. It is the equivalent to selling out an Elvis concert only to get this.

SNL 11/04/78 - Elvis Presley's Coat

Hunter Green · 2024-12-15T04:12:23Z

7 hours ago, SUMG said:

La. Tech (5-7) is taking the spot.....Brett McMurphy

In sure Army is thrilled with that choice. They lost their rivalry game, but this has to put a damper on a 10-2 season and AAC championship. This entire system needs to be scrapped and then start over.

Edited 23 hours ago by Hunter Green

Shark84 · 2024-12-15T05:17:41Z

Until they do contracts, players will continue to skip playing in bowl games.

DentonStang · 2024-12-15T05:40:11Z

This is just a sign of catastrophic problems in that program. It's a one-off. FSU had issues because they massively screwed up their very high dollar portal haul with bad culture guys and ill-fit to scheme guys.

These aren't new problems, they are just being made visible quicker. Good. Players can leave a bad situation or a situation where they aren't being paid a fair NIL wage and go elsewhere, rather than waist their college years in a disaster program.

cogido · 2024-12-15T07:16:53Z

8 hours ago, Coffee and TV said:

What a payoff for Army: finish 10-2, win your conference and get a 5-7 team in Shreveport.

Right. It does suck for Army .
QUESTION: Do the academies have portal bailouts the way the other schools do? My guess is not so much (?) due to their future career connections. Since the vast majority of players in most colleges will never make an NFL check it appears that most just want to chase a little fast cash while they still have a couple of football years left in their futures.

rcade · 2024-12-15T14:37:21Z

I'd rather have a transfer portal window after the spring semester than one before the bowls. Force players who want to transfer to do it in the summer. The players who stayed get the benefit of spring practice and longer offseason time with their teammates.

untjim1995 · 2024-12-15T16:31:08Z

When this news came out, that Marshall couldn’t play in the game, I figured one of two things would happen:

1.) La Tech would get in the game for attendance purposes.

or

2.) The I-Bowl would go ask the closest SEC school with a losing record to come play, like Mississippi State, just to get a bigger chance at an attendance boost.

RBP79 · 2024-12-15T17:18:09Z

10 hours ago, cogido said:

Right. It does suck for Army .
QUESTION: Do the academies have portal bailouts the way the other schools do? My guess is not so much (?) due to their future career connections. Since the vast majority of players in most colleges will never make an NFL check it appears that most just want to chase a little fast cash while they still have a couple of football years left in their futures.

Your signing a contract. You owe whatever branch 6 years/8 total unless for the good of the service they reduce it. Individual can also make request for early out. Most that are approved are placed in Indivdual Ready Reserve.

Edited 10 hours ago by RBP79

NT80 · 2024-12-15T17:44:53Z

12 hours ago, DentonStang said:

a situation where they aren't being paid a fair NIL wage and go elsewhere

It’s not a JOB. It’s playing a game in exchange for a FREE education.

meaniegreenie · 2024-12-15T18:20:11Z

22 hours ago, BigWillie said:

I know several on here have mentioned to move the transfer portal until after bowl games, but if a player has already decided to go into the portal, they still would just choose to sit out the bowl until the portal opens.

The portal itself is the problem. It's pretty much killed ~~bowls~~ college football (unless you're a T-shirt fan of P2s).

FIFY

Edited 9 hours ago by meaniegreenie

EAGLE83 · 2024-12-15T18:29:12Z

If G5 DID THEIR OWN THING. That is how 1aa happened . I still regreat my vote on that issue. I wanted to help Basketball and the minor sports.Do not go back to a smaller division.Money would dry up fast.

wardly · 2024-12-15T18:36:42Z

50 minutes ago, NT80 said:

It’s not a JOB. It’s playing a game in exchange for a FREE education.

The athletics are performing a service in exchange for an education so it's not exactly free.

UNTLifer · 2024-12-15T19:53:24Z

14 hours ago, DentonStang said:

…where they aren't being paid a fair NIL wage and go elsewhere, rather than waist their college years in a disaster program.

1. The NIL isn’t supposed to provide the players a fair wage. It is supposed to allow them to take advantage of their name, image and likeness for marketing opportunities and to be paid by the video games for using their name and likeness in the games. It is not a wage for playing, but leave it to smuT to find a way to gain the system.

2. Wasting your college years is not getting an education.

Meangreen Fight · 2024-12-15T21:29:57Z

On 12/14/2024 at 1:23 PM, akriesman said:

Opening up the transfer portal before the end of the bowl season is ridiculous.

It is but I think opening it with no concern of how the players will transfer academically is ridiculous. Transfer portal should open at the end of spring semester. You want to transfer before that you can redshirt as a walk on (no scholarship) without losing a year of eligibility.

DentonStang · 2024-12-16T00:21:44Z

4 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

1. The NIL isn’t supposed to provide the players a fair wage. It is supposed to allow them to take advantage of their name, image and likeness for marketing opportunities and to be paid by the video games for using their name and likeness in the games. It is not a wage for playing, but leave it to smuT to find a way to gain the system.

2. Wasting your college years is not getting an education.

It used to be like an unpaid internship that gave you a housing allowance and paid for your tuition. Now you get paid for the internship. If they are smart they'll take advantage of the tuition perk. If not, they'll trade their football labor for their allowances and pay. Their choice.

NT80 · 2024-12-16T00:43:07Z

6 hours ago, wardly said:

The athletics are performing a service in exchange for an education so it's not exactly free.

Cheerleaders, Band, trainers, team managers, etc also perform a service….but get no FREE education like athletes do.

wardly · 2024-12-16T01:15:42Z

26 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Cheerleaders, Band, trainers, team managers, etc also perform a service….but get no FREE education like athletes do.

So if your neighbor says he will wash your car if you mow his yard are you getting a free car wash? The service that athletics perform has a higher value that the others mentioned by you hence their quid pro quo is greater, but certainly not free.

NT80 · 2024-12-16T01:26:22Z

6 minutes ago, wardly said:

So if your neighbor says he will wash your car if you mow his yard are you getting a free car wash? The service that athletics perform has a higher value that the others mentioned by you hence their quid pro quo is greater, but certainly not free.

I don’t know what NIL has to do with car washes?
Plenty of athletes walk-on and get nothing but the satisfaction of being on the team. Most are asking for nothing but an opportunity at playing time.

wardly · 2024-12-16T01:38:21Z

1 minute ago, NT80 said:

I don’t know what NIL has to do with car washes?
Plenty of athletes walk-on and get nothing but the satisfaction of being on the team. Most are asking for nothing but an opportunity at playing time.

I didn't mention the NIL. What I said was that the value athletics bring to the table is greater than band members [although some are on music scholarships] hence what they get from the university is greater. If you must work for something in order to receive it then its not free. So if you must mow your neighbors yard in order for him to wash your car then the car wash is not free. Finely, if an athlete must perform in exchange for an education then the education is not free.

UNTLifer · 2024-12-16T02:04:59Z

1 hour ago, NT80 said:

Cheerleaders, Band, trainers, team managers, etc also perform a service….but get no FREE education like athletes do.

True, but they are a byproduct of football and without football they don’t exist.

NT80 · 2024-12-16T02:09:41Z

1 minute ago, UNTLifer said:

True, but they are a byproduct of football and without football they don’t exist.

The band is smaller but they perform at basketball, and cheerleaders at multiple sports. Both at outside functions too like Christmas parade in McKinney coming up, etc…not just football

UNTLifer · 2024-12-16T02:12:42Z

2 minutes ago, NT80 said:

The band is smaller but they perform at basketball, and cheerleaders at multiple sports. Both at outside functions too like Christmas parade in McKinney coming up, etc…not just football

Then let me reword this, without sports they don’t exist.

Matt from A700 · 2024-12-16T03:03:55Z

On 12/14/2024 at 4:17 PM, rcade said:

If the transfer portal could move after bowl games (unlikely for academic reasons), there might be a lot more players participating in bowls.

I don't know how much time admissions offices need, but maybe ESPN could help by rearranging some programming and making sure all non-CFP bowls are played before the new year.