Some college football head coaches struggle with the NIL and Portal era...and give it up

[NT80]

Malzahn, 59, said he chose to return to his coaching roots rather than remain a head coach distracted by new-age responsibilities. Malzahn walked away from $15 million guaranteed -- he was set to make $5 million in 2025 and had three years remaining on his contract with the Knights -- for a different coaching lifestyle. He signed a three-year deal with FSU that will pay him $1.5 million in 2025.

"The job description of a head college football coach has changed dramatically in the last two years with everything -- transfer portal to collectives to agents and everything that goes with that," Malzahn said. "I'm just an old-school football coach.

"I love coaching football, and head coaches, it's hard to do that a lot. So that had something to do with it. And then the opportunity..."

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42916508/malzahn-dramatic-changes-coaching-prompted-move-fsu

 

 

[Jonnyeagle]

27 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Malzahn, 59, said he chose to return to his coaching roots rather than remain a head coach distracted by new-age responsibilities. Malzahn walked away from $15 million guaranteed -- he was set to make $5 million in 2025 and had three years remaining on his contract with the Knights -- for a different coaching lifestyle. He signed a three-year deal with FSU that will pay him $1.5 million in 2025.

"The job description of a head college football coach has changed dramatically in the last two years with everything -- transfer portal to collectives to agents and everything that goes with that," Malzahn said. "I'm just an old-school football coach.

"I love coaching football, and head coaches, it's hard to do that a lot. So that had something to do with it. And then the opportunity..."

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42916508/malzahn-dramatic-changes-coaching-prompted-move-fsu

 

 

Translation:  I was about to be fired.

[NT80]

6 minutes ago, Jonnyeagle said:

Translation:  I was about to be fired.

Jimbo Fisher was fired by A$M and got $78m to sit on a beach. 

Malzahn would have received $15m to sit on a beach if he were fired.  Instead he just walked away to take a $1.5M a year job.

[rcade]

2 hours ago, NT80 said:

Malzahn would have received $15m to sit on a beach if he were fired.  Instead he just walked away to take a $1.5M a year job.

True, but if Malzahn helps Norvell turn FSU around and Norvell takes a bigger job, Malzahn has a decent shot of succeeding him.

[NT80]

11 hours ago, rcade said:

True, but if Malzahn helps Norvell turn FSU around and Norvell takes a bigger job, Malzahn has a decent shot of succeeding him.

That was the point of why he walked away from UCF....he doesn't want to be a HC in this time of NIL and Portal.   He didn't enjoy the new responsibilities of being a head coach.  He just wanted to be an assistant and coach players, not deal with all this new $$ crap and player turnover.

[Wag Tag]

15 hours ago, NT80 said:

Malzahn, 59, said he chose to return to his coaching roots rather than remain a head coach distracted by new-age responsibilities. Malzahn walked away from $15 million guaranteed -- he was set to make $5 million in 2025 and had three years remaining on his contract with the Knights -- for a different coaching lifestyle. He signed a three-year deal with FSU that will pay him $1.5 million in 2025.

"The job description of a head college football coach has changed dramatically in the last two years with everything -- transfer portal to collectives to agents and everything that goes with that," Malzahn said. "I'm just an old-school football coach.

"I love coaching football, and head coaches, it's hard to do that a lot. So that had something to do with it. And then the opportunity..."

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42916508/malzahn-dramatic-changes-coaching-prompted-move-fsu

 

 

Talk to Saban!!

[rcade]

2 hours ago, NT80 said:

That was the point of why he walked away from UCF....he doesn't want to be a HC in this time of NIL and Portal.   He didn't enjoy the new responsibilities of being a head coach.  He just wanted to be an assistant and coach players, not deal with all this new $$ crap and player turnover.

He says that today but we don't know if he means it. College football coaches talk out of both sides of their mouths.

[NT80]

2 hours ago, rcade said:

He says that today but we don't know if he means it. College football coaches talk out of both sides of their mouths.

Agree.  His wife may have other idea$ about his future employment too, lol.

[emmitt01]

20 hours ago, rcade said:

True, but if Malzahn helps Norvell turn FSU around and Norvell takes a bigger job, Malzahn has a decent shot of succeeding him.

Turn FSU around?  That’s gonna be impossible with that looming juggernaut at SMU…what will the ACC do?!

[untjim1995]

36 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

Turn FSU around?  That’s gonna be impossible with that looming juggernaut at SMU…what will the ACC do?!

You know, SMU will be interesting to watch next year when they have a target on their back and they have to deal with expectations for the first time in about 40 years. 
 

Maybe they will fall back to being frauds and spares, but the current landscape makes me think that’s a pipe dream. I

[rcade]

11 hours ago, untjim1995 said:

Maybe they will fall back to being frauds and spares, but the current landscape makes me think that’s a pipe dream.

Even in an era where almost anything goes, I predict SMU is going to find a way to break a serious rule that actually gets enforced. Then it's another three decades in the wilderness and the grandchildren of today's SMU fans are posting on message boards in the 2050s vowing revenge.

Also, FSU will still be suing the ACC to get out of the conference.

[DentonLurker]

Some of these coaches are so full of it. They say whatever they want, whenever they want. They've all chased the $'s and hit their own version of the transfer portal so many times, and now they're upset the players can do the same? I have no sympathy for these guys.

[cousin oliver]

25 minutes ago, DentonLurker said:

Some of these coaches are so full of it. They say whatever they want, whenever they want. They've all chased the $'s and hit their own version of the transfer portal so many times, and now they're upset the players can do the same? I have no sympathy for these guys.

Yes absolutely no sadness for the coaches who have gamed the system for years. The coaches never get concussions or have compound fractures and whatnot.

[SMU2006]

13 hours ago, untjim1995 said:

You know, SMU will be interesting to watch next year when they have a target on their back and they have to deal with expectations for the first time in about 40 years. 
 

Maybe they will fall back to being frauds and spares, but the current landscape makes me think that’s a pipe dream. I

NIL for the SMU Collective is up 3x with the recent success so I agree it will be interesting to watch.  Money talks.

[untjim1995]

44 minutes ago, SMU2006 said:

NIL for the SMU Collective is up 3x with the recent success so I agree it will be interesting to watch.  Money talks.

Beware the college bluebloods that don't like your cash...they've got a way of making the NCAA compliance office see things that are usually unseen.

[UNTLifer]

2 hours ago, untjim1995 said:

Beware the college bluebloods that don't like your cash...they've got a way of making the NCAA compliance office see things that are usually unseen.

One can only hope.

[NT80]

2 hours ago, untjim1995 said:

Beware the college bluebloods that don't like your cash...they've got a way of making the NCAA compliance office see things that are usually unseen.

Yes, and $mut is not buying their way up to the P2 level, or even the Big12 level.  With all the Boise's and $muts taking up CFP space, the SEC and Big10 will soon split off and have their own playoff.

[NT80]

4 hours ago, DentonLurker said:

Some of these coaches are so full of it. They say whatever they want, whenever they want. They've all chased the $'s and hit their own version of the transfer portal so many times, and now they're upset the players can do the same? I have no sympathy for these guys.

It's a job for the coaches; real employment, real contracts that provide an out for both parties.  It's not employment for players (yet).  A free education was their exchange for playing.  They could always change schools anytime too. 

It's time to make player employees, that can be fired.  Let them pay for their education and medical premiums too, now that they are all zillionaires!

[Meangreen Fight]

On 12/11/2024 at 9:02 PM, NT80 said:

Jimbo Fisher was fired by A$M and got $78m to sit on a beach. 

😂. Every time I read something I am completely perplexed by the pearl clutching and bitching about NIL.   Jimmy Johnson made 1 million per year and settled for 3.9 million as a back to back Super Bowl Champion Head Coach.  

 

2 hours ago, NT80 said:

It's time to make player employees, that can be fired.  Let them pay for their education and medical premiums too, now that they are all zillionaires!

That is high class garbage take when looking at Jimbo Fisher.  Texas A&M significantly better without him coaching but walks away with money Jimmy Johnson only dreamed of.    How about some of these coaches and Administrators who have been taking far more value out of the system than they generated payback some of that money?  Ironic NIL became a thing the same year Fisher signed a 10 year $95 million contract.  Seems to so many everyone is cool for everybody in college football except the players being mercenaries. 
 

 Now if you want put 50% of all players NIL income into a collective pot distributed to all players (on all FBS level teams) that actually record snaps (minutes) in games, then let’s discuss.  These guys aren’t playing against air. 

https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1994/03/30/johnson-leaves-cowboys/

[El Paso Eagle]

I find it curious how people always want to point out the high-paid coaches when they're talking about how coaches are, but they seem to want to forget what a lot of these coaches go through to get up in positions. You look around a lot of the assistant coaches, and they've been at five or more schools (some many more) working their way up. And when's the last time you saw a player get fired during the season and told not to come back, no matter how badly they screwed something up. So again, you can say that coaches make all the money, and people talk about them being greedy, but with all due respect, when you have college players hitting the portal every year, their level of greed is just as high, if not higher than the coaches. I am all for paying all the players but then letting them cover their expenses, and even though many of you will not agree with it, I 100% believe there should be no more student fees for any university that is paying players. The students should not have to put out money to compensate athletes if there's enough money in athletics to pay players.

[NT80]

4 hours ago, Meangreen Fight said:

That is high class garbage take when looking at Jimbo Fisher.  Texas A&M significantly better without him coaching but walks away with money Jimmy Johnson only dreamed of.    How about some of these coaches and Administrators who have been taking far more value out of the system than they generated payback some of that money?  Ironic NIL became a thing the same year Fisher signed a 10 year $95 million contract.  Seems to so many everyone is cool for everybody in college football except the players being mercenaries. 
 

 Now if you want put 50% of all players NIL income into a collective pot distributed to all players (on all FBS level teams) that actually record snaps (minutes) in games, then let’s discuss.  These guys aren’t playing against air. 

https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1994/03/30/johnson-leaves-cowboys/

A$M was a stupid employer for offering Fisher that much guaranteed from the start.   

Schools have also been stupid with NIL deals too.  Offering $1m+ NIL to players that never saw the field, then transferred.   

News today:

Quinn Ewers attracts $4M from prestigious college program if he delays NFL dream yet again

https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-football/news-quinn-ewers-attracts-4m-prestigious-college-program-delays-nfl-dream-yet

Edited 15 hours ago by NT80

[Meangreen Fight]

11 hours ago, NT80 said:

A$M was a stupid employer for offering Fisher that much guaranteed from the start.   

Schools have also been stupid with NIL deals too.  Offering $1m+ NIL to players that never saw the field, then transferred.   

News today:

Quinn Ewers attracts $4M from prestigious college program if he delays NFL dream yet again

https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-football/news-quinn-ewers-attracts-4m-prestigious-college-program-delays-nfl-dream-yet

The outrage is still hypocritical BS anyway you want to slice it.  NIL greed didn’t destroy conferences and rivalries.  GREED in general did.  And the people that run College Football are responsible for balancing the health of the sport over greed.  College Football has no real structure except do whatever legal and necessary to get the most revenue.  End popular rivalry games for a few extra million dollars from another conference, is no biggie.  Walkout of the students who just signed their letters on intent for a 15% raise, no biggie.   Programs like Alabama using FCS for fodder while charging full ticket prices, media rights fee for a farce, no  biggie.  Players getting NIL “Oh my God this is ridiculous it is the END of college football, we need regulation….”   For me it isn’t of the waste perceived unfairness or greed that makes the game less enjoyable it is the hypocrisy of the fans.