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UNTLifer Grand Master

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Yes, it is out of control.  Teaches kids that if it doesn't work out, to take your ball and run off instead of working hard and earning your way.

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10 minutes ago, Cougar King said:

A lot of these guys won't even find another team to play for.

If you're not a top or middle-tier guy, I would suggest staying put at the school you're at.

Good point, but I'm sure most of these kids think they're going to be the exception to any rule. I also wonder, out of curiosity, that in the past, we knew teams had encouraged players to leave, but Dion Sanders took it to a new level, openly cutting players. I wonder how many players in this group were told it was time for you to leave.

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13 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Good point, but I'm sure most of these kids think they're going to be the exception to any rule. I also wonder, out of curiosity, that in the past, we knew teams had encouraged players to leave, but Dion Sanders took it to a new level, openly cutting players. I wonder how many players in this group were told it was time for you to leave.

Several. A lot of guys at every school are outright told to hit the transfer portal.

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22 hours ago, Dannymacfan said:

I don’t think that happen here.

We just changed defensive coordinators/schemes. I think we should assume it is happening or will in the spring. 

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23 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

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23 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Yes, it is out of control.  Teaches kids that if it doesn't work out, to take your ball and run off instead of working hard and earning your way.

This is so tiring, guys. Over and over, we get it. 

22 hours ago, Dannymacfan said:

I don’t think that happen here.

Matthew Moore didn’t play at all here for two years then hit the portal. At the very least strongly encouraged to transfer.

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1 minute ago, BillySee58 said:

This is so tiring, guys. Over and over, we get it. 

Matthew Moore didn’t play at all here for two years then hit the portal. At the very least strongly encouraged to transfer.

I agree. Get over it. 

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if we have defensive players who have rarely touched the field in 2 yrs on the worst defense in the country, then probably a good thing their transferring and freeing up a spot

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4 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

I agree. Get over it. 

There’s nothing to get over. It’s just perplexing trying to understand why you two whine about the current state of the transfer portal and NIL completely year round. No new dialogue or talking points, just the same rehashed frustration. 

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All of you who don’t like that players are “picking up their balls and going home” can’t say jack about firing coaches before their contracts are up. You’re not allowed to “take your ball and go home.” You made a commitment to that coach. Honor it.

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51 minutes ago, DentonLurker said:

All of you who don’t like that players are “picking up their balls and going home” can’t say jack about firing coaches before their contracts are up. You’re not allowed to “take your ball and go home.” You made a commitment to that coach. Honor it.

There is a HUGE difference between someone quitting and someone getting fired.  If a school cans a coach before his contract is up, but abides by that contract and pays him what he is owed, then the school is honoring the contract.  I would also note that scholarships aren't the same as contracts.  

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3 hours ago, BillySee58 said:

There’s nothing to get over. It’s just perplexing trying to understand why you two whine about the current state of the transfer portal and NIL completely year round. No new dialogue or talking points, just the same rehashed frustration. 

Because it is a bullshit system. I don’t need some kid running a podcast that gives him the attitude that he is all knowing to tell me that his opinion on the system is better than mine. It is what it is. I don’t like it.  I see kids chasing dollars hoping to secure their future and probably forgoing their education.

Do you really think Chandler Morris is worth the reported $1 million dollars Okie St is throwing at him?  Do you think Ohio State’s $200 million payroll provided a solid return?  It is not a sustainable system and is not being administered as intended. These collectives are paying kids a salary to just be on the team. It has nothing to do with marketing their likeness, their name or their image. 
It has turned our program into nothing more than a prep program for the P4 teams. We, UNT, spend time and money developing kids for what?  For them to move along to the highest bidder and we get $0 in return. It is not a sustainable system. Why do “G5” donors want to throw money at these kids that have zero loyalty to us?  What is the return?  Hopefully 9 or 10 wins, a conference title and some BS bowl game only to watch our best players walk prior to the bowl game/playoffs?

Sorry but the dialogue and “talking points” haven’t changed. It is nothing more than a game of greed. This is college sports with misplaced priorities that are ruining the game, in my humble opinion. 

That satisfy you?

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1 hour ago, NTXDJ said:

There is a HUGE difference between someone quitting and someone getting fired.  If a school cans a coach before his contract is up, but abides by that contract and pays him what he is owed, then the school is honoring the contract.  I would also note that scholarships aren't the same as contracts.  

Yep. The system can’t have it both ways. Either pay the kids a salary and let them pay for their schooling or stick with the scholarship system. 

Having hardworking students pay an “athletics fee” to support these programs while these athletes are getting a salary on top of all the benefits of their scholarship is system set up to fail. 

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