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We can bury our heads in the sand or we can face the ever changing landscape, but getting mad at young men for taking a giant chunk of money seems like the last thing we should be doing.   Yes, I contribute, no it isn't much.  I hope we can one day get to where we have a chance at retaining our best players and not losing them due to $

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31 minutes ago, GMG24 said:

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-footballs-top-50-programs-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/

 

We can bury our heads in the sand or we can face the ever changing landscape, but getting mad at young men for taking a giant chunk of money seems like the last thing we should be doing.   Yes, I contribute, no it isn't much.  I hope we can one day get to where we have a chance at retaining our best players and not losing them due to $


No one is mad at the players, we’re mad at the system and the bleak future it holds in front of us as a G5.  But you go ahead and waste and throw your money away.  To each his own.

 

Rick

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54 minutes ago, GMG24 said:

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-footballs-top-50-programs-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/

 

We can bury our heads in the sand or we can face the ever changing landscape, but getting mad at young men for taking a giant chunk of money seems like the last thing we should be doing.   Yes, I contribute, no it isn't much.  I hope we can one day get to where we have a chance at retaining our best players and not losing them due to $

It would be better if rent-a-players just put their requested fee for one year of football service on a site and we fans/coaches can decide who to go after.  Sorta like a ala carte menu of football players.   

NIL as it is now if totally non transparent and mostly under the table verbal promises is what I see.   

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55 minutes ago, GMG24 said:

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-footballs-top-50-programs-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/

 

We can bury our heads in the sand or we can face the ever changing landscape, but getting mad at young men for taking a giant chunk of money seems like the last thing we should be doing.   Yes, I contribute, no it isn't much.  I hope we can one day get to where we have a chance at retaining our best players and not losing them due to $

The problem is we are donating to a moving target. I believe eventually NIL will be moved in house, players become contract employees, and donors will get a write off. This is what G5 needs to do ASAP!

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34 minutes ago, DeepGreen said:

My guess is that Memphis receives a lot of financial support from Fed Ex.

This as well as I believe these are operating budgets not necessarily NIL, seems to be a very misleading headline.

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31 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:

The problem is we are donating to a moving target. I believe eventually NIL will be moved in house, players become contract employees, and donors will get a write off. This is what G5 needs to do ASAP!

Without a doubt.  Just frustrating when people seem to get so upset at the current landscape, then openly say well I'm not ___________ whatever their counter point is.  Either accept that we will be 1 and done on any productive player every year or try to be part of the solution, however much you desire to be part. 

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1 hour ago, GMG24 said:

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-footballs-top-50-programs-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/

 

We can bury our heads in the sand or we can face the ever changing landscape, but getting mad at young men for taking a giant chunk of money seems like the last thing we should be doing.   Yes, I contribute, no it isn't much.  I hope we can one day get to where we have a chance at retaining our best players and not losing them due to $

Those are not NIL numbers but total giving to athletics.

Former Aggies athletic director Ross Bjork said last spring that Texas A&M athletes have signed NIL deals worth approximately $10 million. That number is now dwarfed by a $20 million estimation at his new school, Ohio State.

 
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17 hours ago, Wag Tag said:

The problem is we are donating to a moving target. I believe eventually NIL will be moved in house, players become contract employees, and donors will get a write off. This is what G5 needs to do ASAP!

How is it going to be a write off to compensate someone for their name, image and likeness?

Even if you move away from NIL and make their compensation straight salary, I don’t see how our government is going to allow paying college football players to be a write-off. With everything going on in the world, you are going to incentivize people with the tax-code to pay college football players millions of dollars? It’s not a good look. 

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Does anyone know how our NIL dollars compare? What is our NIL commitment $$$? Remember that article came out BEFORE this season. Those numbers will grow exponentially. If A&M is at $10 million we have to be around what? Are we even six figures? That seems unlikely. $50K? 

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17 hours ago, NT80 said:

NIL as it is now if totally non transparent

I am all for transparency but goodness you would have lockerroom fights if you publicized what one player was paid over another one.  I think you have to leave the amounts that are paid to the coaches.  If you don't trust the NIL to do the right thing then you have much bigger issues.

My problem with the Light The Tower or whatever it is called NIL for football is that a large portion of the donation like 20-30% goes to the Houston guys that run it.  I want all the money to go to the players.  That is why I choose not to participate in it.

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Just now, JT Hammons said:

My problem with the Light The Tower or whatever it is called NIL for football is that a large portion of the donation like 20-30% goes to the Houston guys that run it.  

What does that mean?

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At this point, if you CAN contribute to NIL and don’t, then why do you even still follow college football? Or atleast, why would you follow North Texas?
I’ve invested almost 30 years loving this football program. I feel like I have some ownership in it. This is the current system. No one is going to name any buildings after me, but I give to NIL. It’s not much, but it has to help some. And I do that because I want to win. 
Maybe we’re just a poor music and teachers school and our opportunity to have a winning football team is over? 
Well, I refuse to believe that. I wish more of you would too. And NIL is part of the game right now. Will you help us play?

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17 hours ago, GMG24 said:

This as well as I believe these are operating budgets not necessarily NIL, seems to be a very misleading headline.

Agree.  I don't think this article is specific to NIL.

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23 minutes ago, MeanGreenZen said:

At this point, if you CAN contribute to NIL and don’t, then why do you even still follow college football? Or atleast, why would you follow North Texas?
I’ve invested almost 30 years loving this football program. I feel like I have some ownership in it. This is the current system. No one is going to name any buildings after me, but I give to NIL. It’s not much, but it has to help some. And I do that because I want to win. 
Maybe we’re just a poor music and teachers school and our opportunity to have a winning football team is over? 
Well, I refuse to believe that. I wish more of you would too. And NIL is part of the game right now. Will you help us play?

Thanks you hit the nail on the head.  I think the ones on here that protest the loudest about how they won't participate in NIL never gave that much if anything at all to UNT Athletics prior to NIL.   Not to say any of us love NIL but it is the reality of the situation we all find ourselves in right now.  It is a shame that many on here use NIL as a shield to justify their being too cheap to support the program.  I give the the basketball NIL and feel good and proud to do it.  I am not rich but but give what I can to help.

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3 minutes ago, Jonnyeagle said:

I think the ones on here that protest the loudest about how they won't participate in NIL never gave that much if anything at all to UNT Athletics prior to NIL.   

OK...well that's not true.

 

For those that "give a little to NIL" That's admirable. Truly is. (This is going to come off like I'm being a jerk...I'm not picking on you...but look at this objectively)

As for giving a little to NIL, that's great and all. Also Andy Dufresne eventually broke out of Shawshank. Took him just under 20 years. But we can keep digging that wall with our little $10 a month rock hammer...short of a billionaire or 50-60 millionaires coming in here with some dynamite or a bull dozer....that's what giving to our NIL in this landscape is like. Sorry, but it's just true. 

Remember, we have to compare out program in today's landscape. We can refuse to believe that we're not a poor program and our opportunity to have a winning football team is over...that doesn't make it not true.

In the context of today's college football world to use another Moneyball reference as I believe @FirefightnRick used one earlier:

"There are rich teams, and there are poor teams, then there's 50 feet of crap......and then there's us."

Saw on another thread that Chandler Morris may have gotten around $1 million to go to Ok State? (I don't believe that but we'll see) But let's say he got $500k. Very reasonable in P4 for a decent QB. That one player would be getting more than our entire NIL budget? Do we have close to $500k for our entire team? We cannot compete in this new world. Wishing we could and giving $10 bucks per month doesn't change that. It's just not enough. 

If most of the G5 do not break off and do something else, I have to question the UNT leadership's judgement in trying to keep and run a football program in today's world. 

If Morris DID get that much....then throw everything I said out the window. We're in a totally different stratosphere and it took less that 2 years. What will it be 2 years from now? Will there be a $10 million player in the next 3-5 years? I don't see how there won't be. We have to understand the unbelievable amount of money that is out there. It's beyond anything we can fathom.

 

I'm not protesting NIL. It's a free market. I don't blame the players or the schools with the means for doing what they're doing. Want me to get interested in UNT football again? Have the UNT Leadership step up and lead the rest of the G5 in breaking off and giving me something to hope for. Cause this ain't it. 

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If your a season ticket holder you give every year to the Mean Green "Scholarship Fund"...

College Sports is kinda like the Federal Government.....always wanting more.

 

 

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