Bye Bye Chandler Morris

[meaniegreenie]

3 hours ago, Meangreen Fight said:

Loved everything about your post but I wanted to highlight this section.   I believe a lot of the fans on this board want to stick their heads in the sand and minimize the absurd mismanagement of the football program the last 20 years.   We have a ton of alumni locally that could be won over. 

While a lot of what you said is true, I'm not convinced about winning over the alumni. Most were never interested in FB, or were fans of bigger schools, and many of the few that were have been lured away by the ESPN Minor League CFB system.

We let 30-40+ years of students roll through UNT w/o much of a FB program to embrace.
Worse yet, we spent a good portion of that time being a commuter school that was also significantly populated with students majoring in art, music, and elementary school teachers. While there are exceptions, a large majority of those students aren't interested in FB.

It's interesting that art and music majors aren't in the below, but maybe many of them never complete their degree or end up with a teaching degree focused in that specialty.  I'm kinda' surprised at the legal numbers.

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The most common jobs for people who hold a degree in one of the 5 most specialized majors at University of North Texas are Elementary & middle school teachers (208,639 people), Other managers (178,715 people), Secondary school teachers (129,171 people), Lawyers, & judges, magistrates, & other judicial workers (128,803 people), and Postsecondary teachers (110,155 people).

 

Now that we're well over 40k, we're less of a commuter school and the number of students interested in athletics should be getting a larger. However, even if 20k of those were FB fans, as I mentioned above, many of those are  T-shirt fans of other big name schools.  They'd rather watch SEC FB on a big screen TV in their comfy room with cheap snacks and beer than personally attend a UNT game.

[NT80]

2 hours ago, meaniegreenie said:

Now that we're well over 40k, we're less of a commuter school and the number of students interested in athletics should be getting a larger. However, even if 20k of those were FB fans, as I mentioned above, many of those are  T-shirt fans of other big name schools.  They'd rather watch SEC FB on a big screen TV in their comfy room with cheap snacks and beer than personally attend a UNT game.

It will take some BIG wins over name programs to pull in many of the fence-sitting fans and students.  Like us, they want to brag on their school about a BIG win, and beating Temple by only a touchdown isn't it.

[97and03]

If he ends up at another AAC school, then yes maybe it is time to shut the program down. 

[antique_alum]

Ragsdale enters the portal……really? 4 games in 2 years and UNT probably paid tuition, room & board…plus medical care, pt rehab, all related out of pocket expenses…enough to get him on his feet so he could hobble over to the portal ! What suckers we are….

We wish him well, but one might wonder what team will want him….however, there are rumors that there is interest from Baylor…..Medical Center!

University presidents, boards,  athletic directors, conference execs need to unite and lobby for changes to insane portal and NIL policies…or G5 football will be toast!

[GMG_Dallas]

7 hours ago, 97and03 said:

If he ends up at another AAC school, then yes maybe it is time to shut the program down. 

Why? Memphis has a large NIL deal with FedEx valued at $5 million per year. We're in DFW. How we haven't cultivated a similar deal with any of the 24 Fortune 500 companies located in the metroplex is an indictment on our leadership but it doesn't mean shutdown the program. Number 3 in the nation in volume of Fortune 500s and can't get a dang NIL deal...

[GMG_Dallas]

11 hours ago, NT80 said:

It will take some BIG wins over name programs to pull in many of the fence-sitting fans and students.  Like us, they want to brag on their school about a BIG win, and beating Temple by only a touchdown isn't it.

Big wins over big programs who are having a good year, not beating an Arkansas team that finished 2-10. We need to do like Northern Illinois and beat a Notre Dame team that finished 11-1 and in the playoffs. Those are the wins that cultivate fans.