Bye Bye Chandler Morris

[MeanGreenTexan]

1 minute ago, FirefightnRick said:

A contract?

 

Rick

... and how much are these contracts worth, total?  (105 roster spots... How do we pay for this?  Keep in mind, you still have to offer scholarship & room-&-board to remain comparable in offerings)
... and for how long are each signed for?  1 year? (nothing different)  4 years? (laughable, unless the guaranteed money is beans... which, again, be prepared for intramural-level talent).

I know it sucks we keep losing talented players, but if we voluntarily break from the same organization that the UT's/A&M's of the world are also a part of, it will be an unmitigated disaster.

[wardly]

FYI,Morris just visited Oklahoma State.

[untjim1995]

20 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

A contract?

 

Rick

This is where the G5s and FCS need to go. Contracts for NIL, just like you have contracts for coaches. If you leave for the portal, you owe the $$$ back for the contract not fulfilled, including cost of attendance, stipends, and the remaining NIL. 

The NIL is something this old guy doesn't like, but I get it and accept it. The portal is my line in the sand. As long as it stays as it is, my interest and support of the sport has dwindled considerably. I'm not alone--and my generation of men are the ones who have disposable income and resources that are now being used in different ways. College football had been trending in the wrong direction for me for awhile, particularly in value for money spent and time spent at a game. But at least I knew that the kids made a commitment to stay at UNT for the majority of their college career. Following Mason Fine was incredible as a fan. He is non-duplicable in today's world, as he would get bought by anyone else up the food chain after one season of doing anything of note on the field. 

I recognize that the reality is that UNT and the rest of the G5s will just accept their place under the table of the P4s and fight for scraps and crumbs. And its why my decision to walk away from attending games in 2023 has been the best financial decision I've made in years.

[Deep Throte]

I can testify to the fact that Chandler is being offered north of 1 million dollars to play at Oklahoma State via their collective.

[DeepGreen]

2 minutes ago, Deep Throte said:

I can testify to the fact that Chandler is being offered north of 1 million dollars to play at Oklahoma State via their collective.

To Chandler Morris-

AMF

[97and03]

4 minutes ago, DeepGreen said:

To Chandler Morris-

AMF

Since it is Chad’s kid, I’ll allow it. 😉

[Mean Green 93-98]

15 minutes ago, DeepGreen said:

To Chandler Morris-

AMF

Huh?  Are you offering him a bicycle for NIL?

[MeanGreenDan]

1 hour ago, Deep Throte said:

I can testify to the fact that Chandler is being offered north of 1 million dollars to play at Oklahoma State via their collective.

I'm sorry but with his injury history, and currently not being able to throw it more than 10 or 15 yards, I cannot see this being at all justifiable. 

 

But it's their money not mine!

[DeepGreen]

3 hours ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

Huh?  Are you offering him a bicycle for NIL?

AMF.  Adios Mother F.....

Geeze.  You guys are slow.

[cousin oliver]

3 hours ago, Deep Throte said:

I can testify to the fact that Chandler is being offered north of 1 million dollars to play at Oklahoma State via their collective.

Damn.  That is life changing money.  I cannot blame him for taking that. 

[GMG_Dallas]

4 hours ago, Deep Throte said:

I can testify to the fact that Chandler is being offered north of 1 million dollars to play at Oklahoma State via their collective.

If your screen name is true, can you start an only fans and use the earnings to fund some success?

Thanks,

Sad Fan

[Udomann]

I have no words for how poor an investment this is for OK state. Of course anyone would take that money. 

[Jonnyeagle]

That is a ridiculous amount of money for a guy who has had his injuries.  Okie State must have lots of T. Boone Pickens cash lying around.

[greenminer]

Fascinated by what Coach Dad Morris thinks.

How do you feel about a system that, by all coaches' accounts, has transformed the game for the worse....but just afforded your own son/family a mil?  How do you speak to the media about it now?

[jtm0097]

5 hours ago, DeepGreen said:

To Chandler Morris-

AMF

Aw more football

[NT80]

6 hours ago, Deep Throte said:

I can testify to the fact that Chandler is being offered north of 1 million dollars to play at Oklahoma State via their collective.

If they only get 6 wins with him like we did not sure Gundy can keep his job.

[Cougar King]

7 hours ago, Deep Throte said:

I can testify to the fact that Chandler is being offered north of 1 million dollars to play at Oklahoma State via their collective.

They need all the help they can get but damn, that 1 million could have went to Mensah from Tulane or Castellanos from Boston College or Maalik Murphy from Duke.

[MeanGreenZen]

Thing is, if you are going to spend $1M on injury-prone CM, you definitely need to spend that much on someone else just as good too.  Maybe he plays, maybe he doesn’t. Plenty of programs have the $ to do it. 
CM’s bio: Oklahoma, TCU, North Texas, Okie State…

My grandpa is spinning in his grave over what college football has turned into. 

Edited December 12 by MeanGreenZen

[keith]

17 hours ago, Deep Throte said:

I can testify to the fact that Chandler is being offered north of 1 million dollars to play at Oklahoma State via their collective.

Sure, but after self-employment tax, medicare tax and income tax, it will be a lot less 🤣.  All this NIL money floating around has been a nice windfall for the taxing authorities.

[TIgreen01]

Curious what his thinking is if he takes that offer.  Gundy just fired the OC and DC.  He’s got to have someone in mind, already, and wondering who that could be.  Maybe Chad?

 If not, I think I’d be looking to try to drum up interest elsewhere if I were Chandler.  If his goal is to play pro ball, Gundy definitely has a track record for getting QBs a shot in the NFL, but they looked completely lost up there this year.

[Wag Tag]

13 hours ago, greenminer said:

Fascinated by what Coach Dad Morris thinks.

How do you feel about a system that, by all coaches' accounts, has transformed the game for the worse....but just afforded your own son/family a mil?  How do you speak to the media about it now?

I bet dad ends up where Chad goes at one 10th sons salary!!!

 

Edited December 12 by Wag Tag

[Greenrex]

All this million-dollar chit chat is based on one internet post of unknown origin that probably didn't even have to pick all the squares with a bicycle.

[Meangreen Fight]

On 12/10/2024 at 12:40 PM, Green Lantern said:

know how much waste, bloat, and inefficiency is all through the institution and system. We could come up with $3,000,000 a year in wasted, unneeded, consultant fees and barely scratch the surface of what’s available. It’s not a matter of resources being available, it would simply be the will to allocate differently.

Loved everything about your post but I wanted to highlight this section.   I believe a lot of the fans on this board want to stick their heads in the sand and minimize the absurd mismanagement of the football program the last 20 years.   We have a ton of alumni locally that could be won over.  But the decisions made are insulting to the intelligence of people who casually pay attention when the program makes a big move.  I harp on Odus Mitchell because his tenure shows dramatically what can be done with hard work and competence.  And it is totally incompetent for program with upwardly mobile aspirations to hire first time FBS level coaches.  And what is worse when we do hire a FCS head coach they don't hire the best one available. Dodge, Littrell, and Morris were bad hires.   They may have been fine when it comes to the X & O of their sides of the ball.  We need marketer, Adminstrator and culture builder.   They selected the coaches I mentioned like a good functional Air Raid Offense would fix everything.    I attended at least 3 home game a year since the last couple of season at Fouts Field and the game atmosphere more dead now than ever in my opinion.  You can just feel the disappointment in fans.  

There is no structural disadvantage here that prevents North Texas from being on par with programs like Louisville, Memphis, Tulane, UNLV, San Diego State, UCF, SMU or USF.

[Green with Envy]

2 hours ago, Greenrex said:

All this million-dollar chit chat is based on one internet post of unknown origin that probably didn't even have to pick all the squares with a bicycle.

underrated

[Meangreen Fight]

On 12/11/2024 at 11:22 AM, untjim1995 said:

This is where the G5s and FCS need to go. Contracts for NIL, just like you have contracts for coaches. If you leave for the portal, you owe the $$$ back for the contract not fulfilled, including cost of attendance, stipends, and the remaining NIL. 

Legally you can do that without collective bargaining.  My hope is that we go to a collective bargained system were incoming freshman are only eligible to receive full scholarships with a cost of attendance stipend that is the average for all the universities in the state the college resides in.   After their freshman year they are eligible to transfer but two year contracts are available to them at that time.   So you can transfer get another one year athletic scholarship with stipend or get a two year binding contract.   Only medical redshirts are available for under contract players.  And their contracts can be extended for a third year on the year but the university is only obligated to at least give them full scholarship on the back end of a contract impacted by a medical redshirt year.   Once you transfer at the end of a contract you have to have 2 years of eligibility left to match the contract.   So a senior with 2 years of eligibility left cannot be released to be a "free agent" graduate student athlete under contract.   Either they payback the value of the remaining contract or they can be released at the discretion of the university.   I would go on with a few more minor details for graduate situations but already find this tedious.  Thank you GREEDY FBS MAFIA. 😂