Bye Bye Chandler Morris

GrandGreen · December 9

NIL continues to ruin sports not only for the have-nots like NT; but for all college sports.

I still don't know why the NCAA does not fight against it. Yes, NIL was created by the judicial system, but now they should be able to see how unfair and anti-competitive it has made college sports.

The NCAA should just ban NIL and make any player that accepts it; ineligible. Sent it back to the court system and hope for a more reasonable outcome.

As for losing QB Morris, bye to you and everyone else that wants to transfer. This offense is primary a product of coach Morris, I don't think QB Morris is as important as he probably thinks.

MeanGreenTexan · December 9

1 minute ago, Matt from A700 said:

I really would have liked to see Cash in Mestemaker's opportunities.

Kinda sounds like you are second-guessing the great QB guru's decisions. PaTRicK mAHoMeS!!!1!

Greendylan · December 9

1 minute ago, untjim1995 said:

UTSA has a giant advantage of us and others in the AAC. They are in a pro market with no pro football team, a huge city with a strong civic pride—like a bigger version of Fort Worth.

Denton will NEVER be this for UNT. You can try to make them do it or believe they’ll want to do it, but they’ll just disappoint you.

It's not going to be easy, and it will take innovation, persuasion, and a lot of strategic thinking--but I don't think it's fair to say "never." Also, UNT does have some advantages, such as being a massive school in a prosperous part of the country.

I'm not suggesting that we should be competing with A&M in NIL dollars by next season. But, I think moving up from bottom 3 to the middle of the AAC is an attainable goal, if the fundraising efforts are done effectively and aggressively. We are not helpless in all this.

untjim1995 · December 9

1 minute ago, GrandGreen said:

NIL continues to ruin sports not only for the have-nots like NT; but for all college sports.

I still don't know why the NCAA does not fight against it. Yes, NIL was created by the judicial system, but now they should be able to see how unfair and anti-competitive it has made college sports.

The NCAA should just ban NIL and make any player that accepts it; ineligible. Sent it back to the court system and hope for a more reasonable outcome.

As for losing QB Morris, bye to you and everyone else that wants to transfer. This offense is primary a product of coach Morris, I don't think QB Morris is as important as he probably thinks.

You can hope in one hand and $hit in the other…see which one fills up faster

DentonLurker · December 9

1 minute ago, GrandGreen said:

The NCAA should just ban NIL and make any player that accepts it; ineligible. Sent it back to the court system and hope for a more reasonable outcome.

The NCAA is there to do what the schools want it to do. That’s exactly what it’s doing.

cousin oliver · December 9

This is sad! I don’t know what to say. I am giving virtual hugs to all the Mean Green Nation in this moment.

untjim1995 · December 9

Just now, DentonLurker said:

The NCAA is there to do what the schools want it to do. That’s exactly what it’s doing.

And, just as I always said, the political system at all levels would protect their investors…hint, we ain’t an investor, nor are we an investment.

GrandGreen · December 9

1 minute ago, DentonLurker said:

The NCAA is there to do what the schools want it to do. That’s exactly what it’s doing.

I doubt there is one team in the NCAA, who now thinks NIL is a good idea. Not Alabama or ULM.

Green Otaku · December 9

3 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

NIL continues to ruin sports not only for the have-nots like NT; but for all college sports.

I still don't know why the NCAA does not fight against it. Yes, NIL was created by the judicial system, but now they should be able to see how unfair and anti-competitive it has made college sports.

The NCAA should just ban NIL and make any player that accepts it; ineligible. Sent it back to the court system and hope for a more reasonable outcome.

As for losing QB Morris, bye to you and everyone else that wants to transfer. This offense is primary a product of coach Morris, I don't think QB Morris is as important as he probably thinks.

The anti-trust laws in this country are too strong to fight against. You can not hinder or restrict anyone from making income in this country, once players were paid it was a wrap. How do you propose the NCAA fight federal law? I'll add it's federal law that they have already lost cases in as precedent.

GrandGreen · December 9

5 minutes ago, Green Otaku said:

The anti-trust laws in this country are too strong to fight against. You can not hinder or restrict anyone from making income in this country, once players were paid it was a wrap. How do you propose the NCAA fight federal law? I'll add it's federal law that they have already lost cases in as precedent.

Antitrust laws are directed against monopolies, and if there is any application at all to NIL; it would be to hinder NIL not support it.

Edited December 9 by GrandGreen

MeanGreen22 · December 9

10 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

NIL continues to ruin sports not only for the have-nots like NT; but for all college sports.

I still don't know why the NCAA does not fight against it. Yes, NIL was created by the judicial system, but now they should be able to see how unfair and anti-competitive it has made college sports.

Working great for the SEC and Big10. That’s who these courts are really fighting for.

TIgreen01 · December 9

Until they change the system this is the best thing to happen for EM and UNT. Well, it’s step 1 anyway. Step 2 is Chandler getting 1.5-2mil from his new school. EM and UNT make these mercenaries money. We can build on that reputation. Really, I hate losing Mercer more than Morris. He won’t be as easy to replace.

Morris was maddeningly inconsistent. Maybe had the highest ceiling of anyone we’ve ever had suit up at QB, but too much inconsistent play from him. I think we can do better. Still hope he makes bank, but hard to believe he turned down 500 unless he was holding an offer for double that.

keith · December 9

2 hours ago, Cooley said:

Don't despair

https://247sports.com/player/chris-jimerson-jr-46142405/

http://www.hudl.com/v/2Lmdq7

What's our fascination with short QBs? He's listed as 5'10", but I've also seen 5'9", so he's probably 5'8". Of course, our last 5'8" QB was pretty good.

UNTLifer · December 9

I call B.S. on these numbers being thrown around for CM.

Green Otaku · December 9

4 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

Antitrust laws are directed against monopolies, and if there is any application at all to NIL; it would be to hinder NIL not support it.

https://apnews.com/article/ncaa-legal-battles-d2115349e2d81e481818159a4863cce4

billyboy85 · December 9

come home

Edited December 9 by billyboy85

GrandGreen · December 9

1 minute ago, MeanGreen22 said:

Working great for the SEC and Big10. That’s who these courts are really fighting for.

How is it working great for the super conferences? Now, they get to direct fan payments to players that before were just transferring in for the opportunity to play at the highest college level.

NIL only works for individual players and the mostly unseen agents that NIL has created.

MCMLXXX · December 9

2 hours ago, untbowler said:

that our 2nd string is a walk on freshman is an indictment of EM's recruiting at QB outside of CM, who faltered quite a bit during the 5 game losing streak and was not sharp against Temple either

When he recruited Cam Ward to Incarnate Word there were no other offers. Who knows, with a few weeks to prepare we may be pleasantly surprised. I will attend the Bowl no matter what.

southsideguy · December 9

2 hours ago, rcade said:

If any bigger schools are reading this comment I'm willing to transfer my fandom for the right price. I'll sell you my name and image and throw in my likeness at no extra charge.

But dont forget to give your old school and fans a thank you letter and ask that you respect your decision. After all that is the great way to give the school the finger on the way out.

keith · December 9

19 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

This offense is primary a product of coach Morris, I don't think QB Morris is as important as he probably thinks.

Really? The QB is the most important position on the team. If Chandler Morris wasn't playing for us this year we would have trotted out one of the two freshman and would have been lucky to win 2 games and could have easily gone 0-12.

MeanGreen22 · December 9

3 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

How is it working great for the super conferences? Now, they get to direct fan payments to players that before were just transferring in for the opportunity to play at the highest college level.

NIL only works for individual players and the mostly unseen agents that NIL has created.

Because they can just go out and buy whatever they need. QB sucks? Just go get the best passer in G5. Need a couple backup DBs? Here’s a blank check Mr XYZ player.

GrandGreen · December 9

I assume if QB Morris stays in the portal; that Coach Morris will not use him in the bowl game.

Jonnyeagle · December 9

1 hour ago, rcade said:

TheLinkU is run by two University of Houston grads. Are fans really funding a UNT NIL through a tech startup that is setting up collective donation pages for a bunch of different schools -- and no doubt taking a generous cut for themselves?

This NIL sucks. They are doing zero for UNT. We need our own alums running this thing for goodness sakes.

El Paso Eagle · December 9

18 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

I doubt there is one team in the NCAA, who now thinks NIL is a good idea. Not Alabama or ULM.

Oregon, SMU, and Texas would disagree

GrandGreen · December 9

1 minute ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Oregon, SMU, and Texas would disagree

SMU maybe, but why should UT or Oregon disagree? You seem to be assuming that recruiting results would substantially change without NIL.

UT and Oregon would do fine without the headaches NIL promotes. Even SMU would just go back to paying players in the old fashioned ways that they historically used.