Representing the State of Texas, TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY VS UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS

[peanuts104]

For realz.

[TripleGrad]

I'm still pissed that San Marcos got our name.  Texas State was supposed to be the new NTSU name but got blocked by politicians from tu and aggy.  Then they gave it to Drunken State University.

Edited December 9 by TripleGrad

[Green Light]

Just now, Green Light said:

 

They do not have their own system, but are part of the Texas State University System along with Sam Houston, Sul Ross, & Lamar universities. Their official name is Texas State University-San Marcos. The other 3 schools chose not to change their official names. 

[NT80]

2 hours ago, Green Light said:

They do not have their own system, but are part of the Texas State University System along with Sam Houston, Sul Ross, & Lamar universities. Their official name is Texas State University-San Marcos. The other 3 schools chose not to change their official names. 

Correct, and if one later wants to add TSU-name then San Marcos is supposed to add their name.

 

The Texas State University System (TSUS) is made up of seven institutions: 

 

• Lamar University: Located in Beaumont 
   
• Sam Houston State University: Located in Huntsville, Conroe, and The Woodlands 
   
• Lamar State College Orange: Located in Orange, Livingston, and Lumberton 
   
• Sul Ross State University: Located in Alpine 
   
• Texas State University: Located in San Marcos 
   
• Lamar Institute of Technology: Located in Beaumont 
   
• Lamar State College Port Arthur: Located in Port Arthur 
   

The TSUS is the only public university system in Texas that doesn't have a flagship university. 

[3XNTGRAD]

4 hours ago, TripleGrad said:

I'm still pissed that San Marcos got our name.  Texas State was supposed to be the new NTSU name but got blocked by politicians from tu and aggy.  Then they gave it to Drunken State University.

When we changed from NTSC to NTSU in the 60s we originally asked for UNT and that was blocked by UT politicians.

In 1987 we asked for UNT when requesting for the name change that went into effect in 1988 (although TSU was discussed internally as another option at that time. I had a conversation with Pres. Hurley at the time about these options while I was a student. I preferred UNT personally because "North Texas" had been the one consistent part of all the institution's names for so long.).

[KingDL1]

2 minutes ago, 3XNTGRAD said:

When we changed from NTSC to NTSU in the 60s we originally asked for UNT and that was blocked by UT politicians.

In 1987 we asked for UNT when requesting for the name change that went into effect in 1988 (although TSU was discussed internally as another option at that time. I had a conversation with Pres. Hurley at the time about these options while I was a student. I preferred UNT personally because "North Texas" had been the one consistent part of all the institution's names for so long.).

I wanted to be NTU

[HouCat]

On 12/9/2024 at 7:34 AM, TripleGrad said:

I'm still pissed that San Marcos got our name.  Texas State was supposed to be the new NTSU name but got blocked by politicians from tu and aggy.  Then they gave it to Drunken State University.

When did this happen? I was in school and working at the Capitol when the name change legislation went through and don't remember a competing Bill from North Texas.

[Mean Green 93-98]

2 minutes ago, HouCat said:

When did this happen? I was in school and working at the Capitol when the name change legislation went through and don't remember a competing Bill from North Texas.

That's inaccurate.  @3XNTGRAD's post above explains what actually happened.  When we did the name change in the late 80's, Texas State was considered, but UNT was overwhelmingly preferred.

[HouCat]

On 12/9/2024 at 8:09 AM, Green Light said:

Their official name is Texas State University-San Marcos. The other 3 schools chose not to change their official names. 

Our official name is Texas State University, the -San Marcos part was dropped in 2014.

The TSUS doesn't have a de jure flagship but we're certainly the de facto. And I don't blame the other schools one bit for not wanting to give up their name.

Fun fact, North Texas was a part of the Texas State University System until 1949.

[HouCat]

11 minutes ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

That's inaccurate.  @3XNTGRAD's post above explains what actually happened.  When we did the name change in the late 80's, Texas State was considered, but UNT was overwhelmingly preferred.

Ok, so TripleGrad's recollection of the events is inaccurate and the "Texas State" name was only discussed internally and never brought before the legislature.

Got it.

[wardly]

On 12/9/2024 at 11:45 AM, 3XNTGRAD said:

When we changed from NTSC to NTSU in the 60s we originally asked for UNT and that was blocked by UT politicians.

In 1987 we asked for UNT when requesting for the name change that went into effect in 1988 (although TSU was discussed internally as another option at that time. I had a conversation with Pres. Hurley at the time about these options while I was a student. I preferred UNT personally because "North Texas" had been the one consistent part of all the institution's names for so long.).

Just asking, but in the 60's didn't we ask for "Texas State " as well which was also blocked by UT?

[Old Denton]

Doubt teasips had anything to do with it.  It was completely aggy.  It had something to do the being the Land Grant institution.  They dropped the restriction when we pivoted to NT brand and the institution just down the road from their  hated tu wanted to try it.  Our location (DFW) likely played a major factor in suppressing the attempt.

[Mean Green 93-98]

1 hour ago, wardly said:

Just asking, but in the 60's didn't we ask for "Texas State " as well which was also blocked by UT?

No, in the 60's they blocked us from being "University of North Texas," when we originally requested that name, because some thought it sounded too much like "University of Texas."

[wardly]

4 minutes ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

No, in the 60's they blocked us from being "University of North Texas," when we originally requested that name, because some thought it sounded too much like "University of Texas."

I was there 61' to 66'. Next question; were we ever invited to the University of Texas System?