Utah State (11/29/24)

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3 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Wish I knew why Vice wasn’t getting a few minutes. Still would like to see Cotton and Mason more, but this wasn’t the game. Maybe playing them last night in them last night in the blowout would have saved some legs for today. 

they were never gonna play this trip. a Stone cameo would've been all that we'd see v. UNI but even Hodge seems done with him now. 

the same 8 v. High Point, then maybe a few minutes experience against the soft December calendar. 

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1 minute ago, NT80 said:

?  Falslev has been their best player.

Martinez was averaging almost 20ppg...Falsev around 15. 

[NT80]

Just now, Censored by Laurie said:

Martinez was averaging almost 20ppg...Falsev around 15. 

Falslev was high scorer their last two games and he was obviously hot tonight.  Gotta take it away from the hot scorer.

[Jonnyeagle]

We were close.

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Just now, NT80 said:

Falslev was high scorer their last two games and he was obviously hot tonight.  Gotta take it away from the hot scorer.

maybe OSU thought to only guard the hot man against us too. 

Falslev just careered. tip the hat and move on. 

[GrandGreen]

21 fouls called on NT, versus 9 on Utah St.

I think the refereeing was much in favor of USU in the second half.  

Discounting the stop the clock fouls in the last few minutes, the calls still seemed to me to be very tilted toward USU.  USU's much slower bigs seemed to get by with a lot more pushing than the Green.  I know losers often blame the refereeing, but sometimes there is merit to the allegation. 

Despite that, NT lost the game because of their inability to hit threes.  

This game should help NT continue to develop.  

[NT80]

7 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

21 fouls called on NT, versus 9 on Utah St.

I think the refereeing was much in favor of USU in the second half.  

Discounting the stop the clock fouls in the last few minutes, the calls still seemed to me to be very tilted toward USU.  USU's much slower bigs seemed to get by with a lot more pushing than the Green.  I know losers often blame the refereeing, but sometimes there is merit to the allegation. 

Despite that, NT lost the game because of their inability to hit threes.  

This game should help NT continue to develop.  

Even the announcers commented that the refs were calling the game closer in the second half.   They let them play in the first half, only like 5 total fouls.   They should keep it consistent. 

[GMG_Dallas]

16 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

21 fouls called on NT, versus 9 on Utah St.

I think the refereeing was much in favor of USU in the second half.  

Discounting the stop the clock fouls in the last few minutes, the calls still seemed to me to be very tilted toward USU.  USU's much slower bigs seemed to get by with a lot more pushing than the Green.  I know losers often blame the refereeing, but sometimes there is merit to the allegation. 

Despite that, NT lost the game because of their inability to hit threes.  

This game should help NT continue to develop.  

Hard to blame the refs when we forced 16 turnovers and took 15 more shots. Just couldn't hit our shots. Sometimes you're cold. I'm going to agree with @UNTLiferwho said we should have played bench guys against UNI considering it was a blowout. Have to give your starters rest when you can, especially on the first of a back-to-back.

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Just now, GMG_Dallas said:

Hard to blame the refs when we forced 16 turnovers and took 15 more shots. Just couldn't hit our shots. Sometimes you're cold. I'm going to agree with @UNTLiferwho said we should have played bench guys against UNI considering it was a blowout. Have to give your starters rest when you can, especially on the first of a back-to-back.

the UNI game was a 9 point game with 3:30 to play. 57-48. we shut them out from there to push it to 20, but at no point short of the last minute or so was it even possible to clear the bench. 

everybody needs stop over-analyzing tonight's loss. it was a toss up...they made a few more plays than we did. play the game ten times and it's 5/5 with a top 30 team that might sneak into the top 25 by Christmas. 

[GMG_Dallas]

20 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

the UNI game was a 9 point game with 3:30 to play. 57-48. we shut them out from there to push it to 20, but at no point short of the last minute or so was it even possible to clear the bench. 

everybody needs stop over-analyzing tonight's loss. it was a toss up...they made a few more plays than we did. play the game ten times and it's 5/5 with a top 30 team that might sneak into the top 25 by Christmas. 

Giving a few guys some rest and clearing the bench are two different things. We were up 17 against UNI with a couple minutes left in the first half and again early in the second half. Those are prime opportunities to sub in your 9th and 10th guys and give a couple of your main rotation guys a few minutes of rest. We actually had a double digit lead most of the second half against UNI. It was never really threatened.

Edit to add it's kind of funny to suggest we were never in a position to clear the bench against UNI yet Utah State played 11 guys against us and 10 against St Bonaventure. Some get on for less than 10 minutes but I promise you a starter gets needed rest for those few minutes they get to sit. Maybe we should do as the top 30 team does?

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[NT80]

16 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Giving a few guys some rest and clearing the bench are two different things. We were up 17 against UNI with a couple minutes left in the first half and again early in the second half. Those are prime opportunities to sub in your 9th and 10th guys and give a couple of your main rotation guys a few minutes of rest. We actually had a double digit lead most of the second half against UNI. It was never really threatened.

Edit to add it's kind of funny to suggest we were never in a position to clear the bench against UNI yet Utah State played 11 guys against us and 10 against St Bonaventure. Some get on for less than 10 minutes but I promise you a starter gets needed rest for those few minutes they get to sit. Maybe we should do as the top 30 team does?

I agree.  Injuries are bound to happen.  They almost did tonight.   They did last season.  Utah State played without a starter tonight and last night due to food poisoning.   You never know.   

We need more than 8 guys prepared to play effectively.