Cotton, Vice And Mason

[NT80]

1 hour ago, Censored by Laurie said:

I think there is a route forward here for Vice and either Mason/Cotton (maybe both)...just on Hodge to sell them on patience. winning helps. 
 

Vice was on Creighton last year.  He has already sat on a winning team.   

[UNTLifer]

They all should have gotten some minutes in the UNI blowout knowing we were going to have a short turnaround today. 

[Censored by Laurie]

3 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

They all should have gotten some minutes in the UNI blowout knowing we were going to have a short turnaround today. 

the UNI game wasn't "clear the bench" out of reach until the last 2ish minutes. 

i'd love to know what these kids have as much as anyone, but they were never going to touch the floor on this trip...they won't play against High Point...stop beating a dead horse. 

[Censored by Laurie]

oh no...a downvote. 

articulate a half-decent opinion or go the eff away. I swear actually having a winning program has made this board worse. 

[UNTLifer]

3 hours ago, Censored by Laurie said:

oh no...a downvote. 

articulate a half-decent opinion or go the eff away. I swear actually having a winning program has made this board worse. 

I did articulate an opinion and you countered with your opinion. I am not asking that they all play together at once, but give them 5 or 6 minutes. Vice will score as much at Sissoko as and Cotton/Mason as much as Massey right now. Give them some experience in small bites and increase their minutes over time. 

[MeanGreenZen]

On 11/26/2024 at 1:52 PM, Censored by Laurie said:

yes...I'm aware. so he should be even more developed with a season of practice against one of the best centers in the country and a Top 25 roster. 

 

let's tap the breaks on "elite". 

Considering what he has done with the resources at his disposal, that is “elite”.

He had a 146-24 record as a head coach in junior college with a national championship runner-up season. You don’t think he had elite players?

At North Texas, he was the primary recruiter of Zach Simmons and somehow kept a great player at the hardest position to fill in college basketball at North Texas for his entire career. 

Last year, he somehow convinced the 2nd and 3rd best players from a NIT winner to stay at North Texas despite much higher NIL offers elsewhere. 

This year, he dipped into the transfer portal again and has assembled a team off to one of the strongest starts in program history. 

That is elite. What do you think a guy like that could do with an even bigger NIL budget? 
 

 

[Censored by Laurie]

1 hour ago, MeanGreenZen said:

Considering what he has done with the resources at his disposal, that is “elite”.

He had a 146-24 record as a head coach in junior college with a national championship runner-up season. You don’t think he had elite players?

At North Texas, he was the primary recruiter of Zach Simmons and somehow kept a great player at the hardest position to fill in college basketball at North Texas for his entire career. 

Last year, he somehow convinced the 2nd and 3rd best players from a NIT winner to stay at North Texas despite much higher NIL offers elsewhere. 

This year, he dipped into the transfer portal again and has assembled a team off to one of the strongest starts in program history. 

That is elite. What do you think a guy like that could do with an even bigger NIL budget? 
 

 

sigh...ok. hang the banner. 

[MeanGreenZen]

2 hours ago, Censored by Laurie said:

sigh...ok. hang the banner. 

I’m not saying that he’s John Wooden 2.0: just that he is a great up-and-coming coach who is producing strong results and it is fun to be a fan of his team.

[Censored by Laurie]

13 minutes ago, MeanGreenZen said:

I’m not saying that he’s John Wooden 2.0: just that he is a great up-and-coming coach who is producing strong results and it is fun to be a fan of his team.

sure. so maybe it's just semantics, but nothing above equates to "elite" for me.  both from the standpoint that "elite" is rarified company and too when we start using language like that the @untbowler's of the board will show up only after every loss to blame our deified coach and the AD that didn't go after Will Wade I guess. 

just trying to help keep ten toes on the ground for everyone and make sure the basketball conversation stays intelligent and not at all resembling the football forum. 

[Cooley]

12 hours ago, MeanGreenZen said:

Considering what he has done with the resources at his disposal, that is “elite”.

He had a 146-24 record as a head coach in junior college with a national championship runner-up season. You don’t think he had elite players?

At North Texas, he was the primary recruiter of Zach Simmons and somehow kept a great player at the hardest position to fill in college basketball at North Texas for his entire career. 

Last year, he somehow convinced the 2nd and 3rd best players from a NIT winner to stay at North Texas despite much higher NIL offers elsewhere. 

This year, he dipped into the transfer portal again and has assembled a team off to one of the strongest starts in program history. 

That is elite. What do you think a guy like that could do with an even bigger NIL budget? 
 

 

For clarification purposes, Zach Simmons committed to UNT's prior coaching staff while Hodge/McCasland were still at Arkansas St. They did conduct a home visit after they arrived to convince him to stay.