If it worked at UIW why not here?

[meangreenfaninno]

Was it the advent of NIL that got Eric?  Why does his formula that was so successful at UIW not working here worth a durn!

[BBA1989]

He had Cam Ward to bail him out of games.  Watched it in person against SHSU in the playoffs right before he resigned, and Cam followed him to Wazzu.

[GMG_Dallas]

He was UIW for 4 seasons and barely had a winning record. He was a .500 coach until his final season there. Zero indication he could replicate the success once Cam Ward moved on. Can we stop pretending Morris was a great FCS coach?

[Wag Tag]

The NIL is definitely going to hurt UNT in attracting football HC! I also thought is there a play for sports concerning walk ons at Texas? Free tuition for households under $100,000.

[rcade]

12 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:

The NIL is definitely going to hurt UNT in attracting football HC!

I worry less about attracting head coaches than attracting players. There are a lot of coaches who would sell their grandmothers to come to Denton for what we're paying.

[keith]

His record at Incarnate Word:  6-5, 5-7, 3-3, 10-3.  Other than the last season with wins over powerhouses of Prairie View A&M, Texas State (when they sucked), McNeese State, Northwestern State, Nicholls (twice), Houston Baptist (twice), Southeastern Louisiana and SFA, he was a below .500 coach.  Why anyone cared or thought this was something special is beyond me.  

[GMG_Dallas]

47 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:

The NIL is definitely going to hurt UNT in attracting football HC! I also thought is there a play for sports concerning walk ons at Texas? Free tuition for households under $100,000.

This is for all UT system schools so I doubt it's UT Austin trying to entice walk-ons. Any reason UNT, or any other school, can't offer the same? It might require raising admissions standards though because that would be a lot of free tuition to give out.

[Wag Tag]

51 minutes ago, keith said:

His record at Incarnate Word:  6-5, 5-7, 3-3, 10-3.  Other than the last season with wins over powerhouses of Prairie View A&M, Texas State (when they sucked), McNeese State, Northwestern State, Nicholls (twice), Houston Baptist (twice), Southeastern Louisiana and SFA, he was a below .500 coach.  Why anyone cared or thought this was something special is beyond me.  

Cherry picking. He is the most successful coach at UIW in their short history with their first winning season. Kinne came in the next year with Morriss recruits and went 12-2 and got hired away. OC at WSU went 7-5 and had the 35th ranked passing offense. There is no question he can find and develop QB talent which UNT has never had in back to back years. This is the first year I can remember where we did not have a strong running back room. Wide receiver playing running back? This is a main reason you have to pass and play hurry up. I wish morris had hired a Phil Bennett type DC. A past head coach.

[Jonnyeagle]

1 hour ago, rcade said:

I worry less about attracting head coaches than attracting players. There are a lot of coaches who would sell their grandmothers to come to Denton for what we're paying.

Damn good point.  I had not thought of it that way.  

[GMG_Dallas]

1 hour ago, Wag Tag said:

Cherry picking. He is the most successful coach at UIW in their short history with their first winning season. Kinne came in the next year with Morriss recruits and went 12-2 and got hired away. OC at WSU went 7-5 and had the 35th ranked passing offense. There is no question he can find and develop QB talent which UNT has never had in back to back years. This is the first year I can remember where we did not have a strong running back room. Wide receiver playing running back? This is a main reason you have to pass and play hurry up. I wish morris had hired a Phil Bennett type DC. A past head coach.

4 years with 1 good season is not enough to determine how good a head coach is. There's absolutely zero reason to believe that singular good season isn't an outlier. The sample size is just too small. Based on these first two seasons at UNT, I think it's more than fair to question his ability to build and sustain a winning program.

[Big Z]

3 hours ago, keith said:

His record at Incarnate Word:  6-5, 5-7, 3-3, 10-3.  Other than the last season with wins over powerhouses of Prairie View A&M, Texas State (when they sucked), McNeese State, Northwestern State, Nicholls (twice), Houston Baptist (twice), Southeastern Louisiana and SFA, he was a below .500 coach.  Why anyone cared or thought this was something special is beyond me.  

Ask some of the podcasters, they would say "Oh he has Texas ties", "Look what he did with Cam Ward" 

[keith]

3 hours ago, Wag Tag said:

Cherry picking. He is the most successful coach at UIW in their short history with their first winning season. Kinne came in the next year with Morriss recruits and went 12-2 and got hired away. OC at WSU went 7-5 and had the 35th ranked passing offense. There is no question he can find and develop QB talent which UNT has never had in back to back years. This is the first year I can remember where we did not have a strong running back room. Wide receiver playing running back? This is a main reason you have to pass and play hurry up. I wish morris had hired a Phil Bennett type DC. A past head coach.

UIW....no one cares!  None of this made him the most qualified candidate to be the head coach at UNT, but here we are.  We've regressed significantly under his leadership.  He has had no role in developing Rogers or Morris.  They were already proven and developed by others.  It's not like he discovered a QB no one ever heard of.  And for all his ability to identify QB talent, he picked the wrong one for the first two games last year.  He is incredibly lucky that Morris ended up here this year.  If he's not our QB this season, we'd probably be 1-10 instead of 5-6.  Fortunately SMU left the conference and we got to play both Tulsa and Temple twice these last two seasons.  He's 0-2 against Vito's "premier rival" and now has us sitting at #97.  We took a risk with this hire and it's blown up in our face.