WBB at Houston (11/24/24)

[NT80]

11 minutes ago, wardly said:

UNT loses money on every sport it has so great, let's add baseball so we can lose even more money. Every dollar they pore into athletics is money that is lost to all other departments. I care about football and basketball but a real revenue sport is when money in is greater that money out.

We all know you hate baseball. 

If you make a dollar selling a ticket, it's revenue, and a revenue sport.  Profit is different.  Few college sports make a profit for an Athletic Department at the G5 level.  Baseball (as opposed to golf, swimming, track, etc) would lure fans to campus in the spring, spur donations, as well as tickets and merchandise. 

It's not always about making money (profit)...it's keeping relationships with fans and alums year-round.  Non-revenue sports aren't doing it.

[wardly]

49 minutes ago, NT80 said:

We all know you hate baseball. 

If you make a dollar selling a ticket, it's revenue, and a revenue sport.  Profit is different.  Few college sports make a profit for an Athletic Department at the G5 level.  Baseball (as opposed to golf, swimming, track, etc) would lure fans to campus in the spring, spur donations, as well as tickets and merchandise. 

It's not always about making money (profit)...it's keeping relationships with fans and alums year-round.  Non-revenue sports aren't doing it.

I don't hate baseball, but what I don't like is people who seem to want something for nothing . A dream with out a plan is still just a dream and  far I have seen no plan to fund a venue. I went to a health care seminar years ago where a woman who's husband was terminally ill. About 70% of a dying patients hospital bill is generated in the last 24 hours trying to keep them alive. She said that she didn't care what it cost as long as she didn't have to pay for it. Based upon lack of football and basketball support at UNT why would you think that baseball " would lure fans in the spring, spur donations, as well as tickets and and merchandise. "However in the future, which is now, universities will be forced to look at at profit and loss is the athletic department just like the rest of the universities departments. My definition is revenues less expenses equals profit or loss.Based upon your definition of revenue sports swimming would fall into that category if we charged dollar to attend a meet, passed around a collection plate, and sold swim caps. In summary UNT has only so many beans in the pot and to waste them on a very expense non revenue sport seems ridiculous.

[Mean Green 93-98]

18 hours ago, Cougar King said:

Its women's basketball, it's not a revenue sport. Nobody cares about it here

Very few people care about it anywhere.  I'm glad when our ladies win, but WBB matters about a third of what MBB matters, and MBB matters about a third of what football matters.

Not sure why this thread had to turn into an embarrassing attempt to troll a troll.

[NT80]

1 hour ago, wardly said:

 Based upon lack of football and basketball support at UNT why would you think that baseball " would lure fans in the spring, spur donations, as well as tickets and and merchandise. "However in the future, which is now, universities will be forced to look at at profit and loss is the athletic department just like the rest of the universities departments. My definition is revenues less expenses equals profit or loss.Based upon your definition of revenue sports swimming would fall into that category if we charged dollar to attend a meet, passed around a collection plate, and sold swim caps. In summary UNT has only so many beans in the pot and to waste them on a very expense non revenue sport seems ridiculous.

A home softball game probably averages 500 fans, more for bigger teams.  Similar for soccer.  I think baseball would attract more, and the AAC is a quality league.   Say 1000 attend.  That's 1000 more per contest than attend golf, swimming, or track events.   Those fans and alums are potential donors, and potential sponsors for advertising, or other sports attendance.  Anything to get an alum back on campus supporting the school is a positive.  

The non-rev sports?  Why do we even fund them or need them?  Title IX?  Check the sports offerings at schools with baseball and Title IX is not a consideration.  I say re-allocate resources to revenue sports.

[GMG_Dallas]

2 hours ago, wardly said:

A friend of mine was on the LSU Tiger Club Board, who raises money for athletics and parcels it out based upon the departments request. When the Tigers hired Baylor's WBB coach his response was" great, now we can lose even more  money ." UNT loses money on every sport it has so great, let's add baseball so we can lose even more money. Every dollar they pore into athletics is money that is lost to all other departments. I care about football and basketball but a real revenue sport is when money in is greater that money out.

Then disband the entire UNT athletic department. Why even try?