Anyone else still rooting for Eric Morris?

[Rudy]

Do I want him to turn it around and be successful?  Well a successful EM means a successful NT, so yes. 

 

Do I think he can turn it around, hell no. 

 

Do I think he has the the coaching ability and intellect to turn it around, also no. 

[ntmeangreen11]

I wrote this a week or two ago but didn’t post, it’s pretty harrowing. Wins and end of season rankings for Morris. It’s the same as Seths record beat g up on Rice, UTEP, MTSU & FIU and losing every big game. 
 

2023

3-9 Louisiana tech (131)

5-6 FVS ACU

3-9 temple (126)

4-8 Tulsa (125)

4-8 UAB (110)

0-4(5) vs winning teams, cal went 6-7

 

2024

4-5 USA (74)

6-4 FCS SFA

2-8 Wyoming (125)

3-7 Tulsa (123)

2-7 FAU (128)

Game remains vs 3-7 Temple (127) and 6-4 ECU (loss now) (96) 

*USA is now 6-5 so technically so he does have one win over a team ending the season over .500 as of now. 
 

My math may be off but we are 1-9 vs. teams who end season above .500 

HELL NO I DONT SUPPORT THIS BS. 
 

We all saw this coming when they didn’t try to sign new portal players for the front six. Just dumb as hell, I am as out as out can be on this university and Morris. 

 

[MAX KOCH]

UNT has only done worse since firing Seth..  Didn't we actually play in a conference championship?   You can't even get the slightest scent of that from the current HC. Maybe a 3rd year miracle will occur...

[MeanGreenZen]

15 hours ago, 97and03 said:

I can’t believe how many apologists have come out to either pledge loyalty to Morris or just admit they are resigned to permanent loserville. We definitely can afford to buy out a coach. And we should. 

With what money? All the extra NIL money that is laying around? Are you going to finance his buyout?
I’d rather keep Morris and have them put my $ towards a new defensive tackle. 

[97and03]

4 minutes ago, MeanGreenZen said:

With what money? All the extra NIL money that is laying around? Are you going to finance his buyout?
I’d rather keep Morris and have them put my $ towards a new defensive tackle. 

And who will coach that expensive DT? 

[Green Lantern]

48 minutes ago, MeanGreenZen said:

With what money? All the extra NIL money that is laying around? Are you going to finance his buyout?
I’d rather keep Morris and have them put my $ towards a new defensive tackle. 

We have an over $50M a year athletics budget. Significantly more than FAU and Charlotte who are pulling the plug on their failed year 2 coaching experiments. Are you saying we’re not capable of doing what these peers do? It’s a matter of will, not resources. 

[Dannymacfan]

1 hour ago, 97and03 said:

And who will coach that expensive DT? 

Exactly.  Also, when does the spotlight start moving over to the AD with all these bad hires?  I also don't just "give" Mosley the Ross Hodge hire as that was a slam dunk he inherited from big Wren.

[RBP79]

We build all these new athletic facilities in hope of bring in great talent. Seems to me the part the administration is forgetting about is providing proven leadership also. We always go the cheap route in hopes we find a diamond in a goats arse.

[rcade]

I'm rooting for Morris because I don't see a buyout happening now. If boosters have that kind of money it would be better spent on players.

[3_n_out]

21 minutes ago, rcade said:

I'm rooting for Morris because I don't see a buyout happening now. If boosters have that kind of money it would be better spent on players.

And after we spend all our NIL on a prospect(s) and they bolt after the year, then what? What if they don’t even play I.E. Gabe Blair)? We’re still stuck with the same philosophy that hasn’t worked. We’re at a terrible place in our program, but it seems like we’ve had a lot of practice with it. 

[rcade]

3 minutes ago, 3_n_out said:

And after we spend all our NIL on a prospect(s) and they bolt after the year, then what?

That is the same question every team in college football has to ask themselves until the current Wild West era ends. I'd rather spend money improving a third year Morris team than pay him to live his best unemployed life.

Like others have said these five-year deals suck. Give a new coach a three-year deal.

[Big Z]

New CBS team rankings came out today and you would still root for this guy? W's against #125, #126 and #128

[greenminer]

“We can’t afford to buy him out”

”we def can afford to buy him out”

lots of posts with a sense of authority on this, from both sides. Does anyone have any actual insight, or are you just extremely comfortable in your assumption?

[Wag Tag]

1000%. How much different would this year be with a typical Cobb running back room? 

[KingDL1]

2 hours ago, Wag Tag said:

1000%. How much different would this year be with a typical Cobb running back room? 

I am unhappy but will go to the third season with Morris. With Caponi fired and our running back situation, I am not quite ready to start over. I will be all for a mid-season firing if this crap continues. 

[MeanGreenTexan]

We brought in Littrell 2.0, except Littrell had enough strings to pull Phil Bennett off his couch when he needed him.   I guess we’ll see what kinds of strings Morris can pull.   He doesn’t seem nearly as connected.

[3_n_out]

5 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

We brought in Littrell 2.0, except Littrell had enough strings to pull Phil Bennett off his couch when he needed him.   I guess we’ll see what kinds of strings Morris can pull.   He doesn’t seem nearly as connected.

This is the key to his tenure here. If he doesn’t get this DC hire right to make this team competent, then he will be a lame duck coach for next year. 

[DentonLurker]

44 minutes ago, 3_n_out said:

If he doesn’t get this DC hire right to make this team competent, then he will be a lame duck coach for next year. 

I think he would even agree with this. Sometimes people act like the coaches don't see the same things we do. You may disagree with how they handle something (like keeping Caponi this year), but they see the same things we do.

[Rudy]

1 hour ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

We brought in Littrell 2.0, except Littrell had enough strings to pull Phil Bennett off his couch when he needed him.   I guess we’ll see what kinds of strings Morris can pull.   He doesn’t seem nearly as connected.

More like Littrell 0.5

[Aquila_Viridis]

We needed to move on from SL at that point. I don’t fault the selection; it offered upside as compared with SL. But of course there was also downside. The lack of preparedness for the first game last season was a major alarm. Fortunately there is some fluff in the conference. Now we somehow appear to be among the fluff. I don’t think we should go down this path any further.

[Travis]

On 11/24/2024 at 4:00 PM, UNTcrazy727 said:

I can’t believe how many people think going through another complete roster overhaul with a new coaching staff that has no time to recruit is a good way to set us up for success in 2025. 

Sadly we are likely going to be headed toward another complete roster overhaul regardless of him being here or not. 

[MrAlien]

I don't see any other option but to root for him...

If you fire him now and reset the program again (twice in less then 2 years) then you throw away next season.  All the recruiting, and portal momentum, and most of the team will disappear with the coach being fired. 

[GMoney]

Of course!  Change is hard on everyone from coaches, to players to admin...you name it!  Plus, he's a really good person.  Have there been some mistakes?  Yes!  But, this is year two and you need to let him course correct and see what happens.  You can't continuously replace HCs and build a program.

Edited November 26 by GMoney

[SilverEagle]

1 hour ago, GMoney said:

Of course!  Change is hard on everyone from coaches, to players to admin...you name it!  Plus, he's a really good person.  Have there been some mistakes?  Yes!  But, this is year two and you need to let him course correct and see what happens.  You can't continuously replace HCs and build a program.

Totally agree

[Side.Show.Joe]

On 11/24/2024 at 2:16 PM, MeanGreenZen said:

If he can finish the season with 2 wins: I think it is a successful year and gives momentum for the future.

Beat Temple then lose a bowl game: that is pretty Old Denton. And just like, how things go around here. 

Lose to Temple: I’m very discouraged, but still gonna cheer for him because we don’t have the money to fire him. And life is too short to hate the things you love when you can’t do anything to change it. 

I pull for the program. I wanted Morris to be the answer, but he has proven to be just the next bad coaching hire in our decades long struggle to find a real coach. 

I have come to the realization that North Texas will remain a basic program until someone in our leadership gets off their ass and actually hustles to find a real coach. Other G programs do this every few years, as they lose real coaches to higher paying power programs. 

I can not express enough how put out I am with our football program at this moment. Sure, we can beat Temple this weekend, but what does that prove? .... Nothing. Temple is a bum, just like most of the other teams we're beaten this season. And in my honest opinion, that wouldn't represent a movement in the right direction. Firing Morris would, but only if we actually went out and lured an actual winning coach from the Belt, C-USA or MAC. That's what serious programs do.

Edited November 26 by Side.Show.Joe