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They signed Eric to a 5 year deal per Brett Vito. So there is no way in hell they can afford to buy him out.  They are still paying off Seth now that he got canned again!  I don’t disagree that he deserves to be fired, but we screwed up with the guaranteed contracts and no buyout provisions.  Which Jared deserves the blame.

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Just now, Tommy Gadberry said:

They signed Eric to a 5 year deal per Brett Vito. So there is no way in hell they can afford to buy him out.  They are still paying off Seth now that he got canned again!  I don’t disagree that he deserves to be fired, but we screwed up with the guaranteed contracts and no buyout provisions.  Which Jared deserves the blame.

Wasn’t this past year the last year to pay out Seth?

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16 minutes ago, Travis said:

Wasn’t this past year the last year to pay out Seth?

I think we didn’t have to pay him the remainder of his guaranteed money if be had another gig.  Now that he is fired again we may owe him some more.

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1 hour ago, Tommy Gadberry said:

They signed Eric to a 5 year deal per Brett Vito. So there is no way in hell they can afford to buy him out.  They are still paying off Seth now that he got canned again!  I don’t disagree that he deserves to be fired, but we screwed up with the guaranteed contracts and no buyout provisions.  Which Jared deserves the blame.

Really????

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tommy Gadberry said:

They signed Eric to a 5 year deal per Brett Vito. So there is no way in hell they can afford to buy him out.  They are still paying off Seth now that he got canned again!  I don’t disagree that he deserves to be fired, but we screwed up with the guaranteed contracts and no buyout provisions.  Which Jared deserves the blame.

Yup - at least 2 more years of exciting 5-win football  😐

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14 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

in the new world of NIL coaches contracts should not be signed for more than three years.  There is no longer the luxury of building a team.

This is a good point. NIL has changed the game and we at North Texas has a long way to go . But turning over your whole roster each year would be difficult. If you sign a coach for three years a high school recruit would be hesitant to sign up with a coach knowing he will leave possibly when he is a red shirt sophomore . I believe you do have to sign a coach for five years for recruiting stability but have buy out packages along the way. 

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7 hours ago, ForneyGreen said:

Yup - at least 2 more years of exciting 5-win football  😐

This hurts, I was skeptical of the hire in the first place.  We got another OC that wasn't ready to be a head coach nor tweak his Air Raid offense to perform in the clutch and short yardage.  Walked out of the game after that 4th and 1 up the middle run that took us out of the game leading 21-14.  By the time I got to my car the score 31-24.  See y'all back at DATCU Stadium 2026 maybe if we have a new head coach or EM wins 9 games in 2025.  I can't afford to spend money on something that just frustrates me.

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1 hour ago, Sig381 said:

This is a good point. NIL has changed the game and we at North Texas has a long way to go . But turning over your whole roster each year would be difficult. If you sign a coach for three years a high school recruit would be hesitant to sign up with a coach knowing he will leave possibly when he is a red shirt sophomore . I believe you do have to sign a coach for five years for recruiting stability but have buy out packages along the way. 

I think that's the point. This is not a thing anywhere except the elite programs.

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1 hour ago, Meangreen Fight said:

This hurts, I was skeptical of the hire in the first place.  We got another OC that wasn't ready to be a head coach nor tweak his Air Raid offense to perform in the clutch and short yardage.  Walked out of the game after that 4th and 1 up the middle run that took us out of the game leading 21-14.  By the time I got to my car the score 31-24.  See y'all back at DATCU Stadium 2026 maybe if we have a new head coach or EM wins 9 games in 2025.  I can't afford to spend money on something that just frustrates me.

This is where I have been for a little bit. I went to a couple of the games where I thought they could make a difference in their national credibility, and we know how that went. Not sure why I was expecting anything different.

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19 minutes ago, greenjoe said:

3 year contracts.  1 year extension for bowl appearances.  

No.  No extensions for appearances.  6-wins should not be rewarded in any way.   Don’t reward mediocrity. 

Extension for conference championship games.  Raise the standards.   
 

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1 hour ago, Sig381 said:

This is a good point. NIL has changed the game and we at North Texas has a long way to go . But turning over your whole roster each year would be difficult. If you sign a coach for three years a high school recruit would be hesitant to sign up with a coach knowing he will leave possibly when he is a red shirt sophomore . I believe you do have to sign a coach for five years for recruiting stability but have buy out packages along the way. 

This world does not exist anymore.  It used to, but not in the portal and NIL age of college football.  If players cared about coaching staff stability they would not be transferring at the rate they are.  If this thinking permeates our AD, then they need to look for a new line of work because that ship sailed.  Seriously, how many 17-18 years olds sit down and review the contracts of the coaches to decide which offer to take?

High school recruiting should be de-emphasized.  It can't go away completely, but building a program through the high school ranks over multiple years no longer works.  When recruiting high school players, I think the only "stability" play is academic stability.  There are a lot of players that have the skill and ability to play D1 football, but won't make it to the next level.  Hopefully they are smart enough to realize that.  Sell them (and their parents!) on playing a sport they love and getting a solid education and degree while they do.  That's why it's important to continue to improve the academic status of UNT.  We're not going to be a Stanford, but improving 4-year graduation rates and tighter admission standards will help.  

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Why should we care much about high school recruits anymore?

I would focus on recruiting Sun Belt/CUSA, D2, D3, JUCO and NAIA STUDS. Guys who have proven themselves at a higher level. Along with some P4 drop downs who have also gotten reps but have suffered a setback and are looking for an opportunity to make an impact. 

There is no reason to develop a high school player anymore. If a high school player is ready to step on the field and compete NOW, let’s get him. 

Until the rules change or our NIL gets to a level where we can hang on to good guys for multiple seasons (which will probably be never) then team-building is year-to-year proposition. Get the guys who have reps at higher levels and have spent time in college weight programs. 

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