Eric Morris needs to go

[Dannymacfan]

I have seen enough.  UNT better pony up and move on or they will regret it!

[scratch1976]

Absolutely he needs to go! 💩💩💩 show! 

[El Paso Eagle]

100% agree. Sadly he has been over his head since day one and doesn't seem to have the confidence in himself to hire the experience to surround himself with to learn.

[El Paso Eagle]

Let me throw this question out on the table if I might. When it comes to hiring a football coach do you have confidence in Mosley? Seems like in this hire he was taken in by a fancy presentation and a good speaker.

[Shark84]

Don't know what the buyout is on the 3 years left on his contract but I promise you we don't have the money to buy him out and hire a quality candidate to replace him.

[El Paso Eagle]

1 minute ago, Shark84 said:

Don't know what the buyout is on the 3 years left on his contract but I promise you we don't have the money to buy him out and hire a quality candidate to replace him.

I would feel safe and guarantee there are G5 level coaches who make half of what he does perform better.

[GoMeanGreen1999]

2 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

I would feel safe and guarantee there are G5 level coaches who make half of what he does perform better.

Since it doesn't seem to matter who we hire to coach football, why can't we get creative and sign a coach to a 3 year deal?  Offer major incentives.  Don't say we can't do this because we wouldn't be able to get anyone to hire...someone would take the job.  

[El Paso Eagle]

Just now, GoMeanGreen1999 said:

Since it doesn't seem to matter who we hire to coach football, why can't we get creative and sign a coach to a 3 year deal?  Offer major incentives.  Don't say we can't do this because we wouldn't be able to get anyone to hire...someone would take the job.  

Let me jump in because you will have people say that will not allow them to recruit. News flash everyone with today's NIL you turn most your roster over every year so having a coach guaranteed to be here 4 to 5 years is not going to keep players around. I'm off or having a scented base contract that says for every year you went seven games or more we add a year to your contract but no more long-term guarantees especially on a coach who has never successfully coached at the FBS level PS also they may be great guys but no more hiring graduate assistance to coach your offensive and defensive lines.

[Wag Tag]

I think you give him a minimum of 1 more year and see how he does with a new DC. The problem is I don’t know what kind of DC you can hire if the HC is on the hot seat.

Edited 12 hours ago by Wag Tag

[greenjoe]

So, we reward good performance and cut bait with poor performance.  There’s no way that good logic could work.  I say let’s try it.  We certainly couldn't do worse.

[El Paso Eagle]

1 minute ago, Wag Tag said:

I think you give him a minimum of 1 more year and see how he does with a new DC. The problem is I don’t know what kid of DC you can hire if the HC is on the hot seat.

Good question. But I guarantee you there will be a lot of guys that would take the position.

[Green Otaku]

10 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:

I think you give him a minimum of 1 more year and see how he does with a new DC. The problem is I don’t know what kid of DC you can hire if the HC is on the hot seat.

Morris has made too many egregious mistakes with game management this year for me to have any belief that he has what it takes to run a program.  Poor decisions going for it on 4th and not getting a FG/punt, poor clock management, poor time out management, poor play calling on crucial downs, etc. We are playing like we are in a hail mary situation in the 1st quarter. If you don't have the basics down you aren't ready for the job.

[Pavlovs Eagle]

20 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:

and see how he does with a new DC

This sounds like a season where the apologists will be out in full force applauding a 6-win + bowl game shellacking.

[NT93]

Maybe the other 2 threads on this topic could be combined with this one since it was posted first.

[TIgreen01]

I’m just done with the air raid system.  Don’t care who the coach is.

[ForneyGreen]

1 hour ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Let me throw this question out on the table if I might. When it comes to hiring a football coach do you have confidence in Mosley? Seems like in this hire he was taken in by a fancy presentation and a good speaker.

No 🙂 I think Mosely is also in over his head.  Fortunately for him (and us), Coach Hodge was here and fell into his lap.

- No confidence EM can hire the right defensive coordinator

- No confidence that Mosely can hire the right football coach

[MAX KOCH]

1 hour ago, El Paso Eagle said:

I would feel safe and guarantee there are G5 level coaches who make half of what he does perform better.

It would be an enormous challenge to do worse by design 

 

[Jonnyeagle]

1 minute ago, ForneyGreen said:

No 🙂 I think Mosely is also in over his head.  Fortunately for him (and us), Coach Hodge was here and fell into his lap.

- No confidence EM can hire the right defensive coordinator

- No confidence that Mosely can hire the right football coach

Mosley needs to move quickly!

[3_n_out]

1 hour ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Let me jump in because you will have people say that will not allow them to recruit. News flash everyone with today's NIL you turn most your roster over every year so having a coach guaranteed to be here 4 to 5 years is not going to keep players around. I'm off or having a scented base contract that says for every year you went seven games or more we add a year to your contract but no more long-term guarantees especially on a coach who has never successfully coached at the FBS level PS also they may be great guys but no more hiring graduate assistance to coach your offensive and defensive lines.

Giving these coaches 4-5 year contracts can make them complacent. It seems they may not have the urgency to get things going due to the years they have, so they always feel like they’ll get that chance once again. Terrible thing for Jared to do for an unproven coach with no HC experience. I’m not going to count his IW stint since that’s a different division all together. 

[C Rod]

1 hour ago, TIgreen01 said:

I’m just done with the air raid system.  Don’t care who the coach is.

Same. What I would give to see Coach Cobbs as the HC with a run first scheme. Add in a competent 3-4 defense and we’d be set. 

[Tommy Gadberry]

6 minutes ago, C Rod said:

What I would give to see Coach Cobbs as the HC with a run first scheme.

I like Cobbs but I don’t think he us qualified to be a head coach.

[greenminer]

I'm not sure what the path is for Cobbs long term.  A lot of us would absolutely love to have him in a HC role in Denton, but we want to see him gain HC experience first.

Do we take a chance and give him that crown? Do we watch him leave, and possibly not return...ever?

[Venson]

I am torn on what to do with EM, but I know he needs to go. Many say we need a HC with head coaching experience at the FBS level. I know there are HCs at other FBS programs doing more with less, but would they come to a place where historically it's difficult to win consistently and risk it all if their eye is ultimately on a power conference job? Then if you take a P4 conference former HC, they have most likely been fired and they may not get the mojo back like Tom Herman at FAU or Charlie Strong. So, if that is the case where do we go? Many are saying no FCS HC or no more coordinators who have not been a HC at this level. Again where do we go if not those type of guys? My thought is that you may have to hire that guy that this board has been reluctant to go after. That's the guys who have had issues somewhere else and that's why they are no longer where they are. Lane Kiffin had issues and FAU gave him the chance to resurrect his career. Alabama gave Sarkisian (spelling) a chance to resurrect his career and he is doing good things at Texas. We have tried a lot of things, but we have not tried that route of HCs with some skeletons in their past. I feel that if that coach wins, people will forget about their past. I am sure people at Texas have forgotten about what went down with Sark at USC. Just my opinion because we have been striking out for a long time on HCs.

[GMG_Dallas]

4 hours ago, Venson said:

I am torn on what to do with EM, but I know he needs to go. Many say we need a HC with head coaching experience at the FBS level. I know there are HCs at other FBS programs doing more with less, but would they come to a place where historically it's difficult to win consistently and risk it all if their eye is ultimately on a power conference job? Then if you take a P4 conference former HC, they have most likely been fired and they may not get the mojo back like Tom Herman at FAU or Charlie Strong. So, if that is the case where do we go? Many are saying no FCS HC or no more coordinators who have not been a HC at this level. Again where do we go if not those type of guys? My thought is that you may have to hire that guy that this board has been reluctant to go after. That's the guys who have had issues somewhere else and that's why they are no longer where they are. Lane Kiffin had issues and FAU gave him the chance to resurrect his career. Alabama gave Sarkisian (spelling) a chance to resurrect his career and he is doing good things at Texas. We have tried a lot of things, but we have not tried that route of HCs with some skeletons in their past. I feel that if that coach wins, people will forget about their past. I am sure people at Texas have forgotten about what went down with Sark at USC. Just my opinion because we have been striking out for a long time on HCs.

Regarding the guys with no FBS HC experience, I personally have no issue with that. If we pluck a HC from a lower level, it needs to be somebody with extensive HC experience. There's guy who spend almost 10 years as a lower level HC. Examples include Lance Leipold of Kansas who went 109-6 over 8 seasons at D3 Wisconsin-Whitewater before being hired at Buffalo. Bob Chesney of James Madison went 111-46 over the course for 14 seasons at various D2 and FCS schools. There's guys out there to be plucked.

My choice is to promote from within with Cobbs. Cobbs may not work at HC and I know it's a huge leap in responsibility but you won't know unless you try and others haven't worked out. He's worked wonders at RB and he's been doing it for a while. I'm sure he's made connections over the course of his playing and coaching career and would surround himself with experienced winners. My biggest thing is he loves this school and would want to succeed for the love of the school and not just for his own career.

I looked back at Boise State head coaches since 2001 and found every single BSU HC spent time coaching at BSU prior to becoming HC and a few played at BSU as well. Several were promoted to HC from within, some went and became coordinators elsewhere before returning as their HC, and only 2 had prior HC experience, Bryan Harsin and Dan Hawkins. Harsin actually left to become Texas's co-OC and then Arkansas State's HC for a 1 year before returning to BSU as their HC but he'd been a coordinator there prior and played at BSU. I believe he's currently on the market and only 48 if we wanted somebody with experience though poor recruiting was a complaint at Auburn. Boise State kind of debunks the whole "prior HC experience" requirement, though. 

Edited 1 hour ago by GMG_Dallas

[Venson]

I just hope Jared has been working the phones trying to gather up the money to get rid of this guy. We need to cut our losses before he tanks us like Mac did and we end up getting pummeled by some FCS program again.