I hope we lose to Temple

[UNTcrazy727]

17 minutes ago, GMG24 said:

Not sure everyone is understanding of college football landscape.  Miami paid a transfer DL $250,000 AND THE DUDE DOESN'T PLAY, He is a back up (insurance policy if you will.)  I totally understand on not wanting to throw money at players but the reality is if you can pay, kids will join.  If not, you're relying on finding kids who don't care about money (GOOD LUCK) and just want to compete and win football games. 

 

On our current roster 4 players from Littrell era contributed to wins this season.  Jordan Brown, Damon Ward, Jett Duncan, and Rod Brown.  We played 10 games with a very sub par DC.  We did not pursue the portal near hard enough to help fill holes in the defensive scheme.  IMO at our level we should be a 4 down front with the ability to hop in and out of 3 down when needed in favorable down and distances.  46 players on the current roster are Jr or Sr. 

The vast majority of this roster are So, RS Fr, and the biggest group being true Freshman.  You don't win a bunch of games at any level with a bunch of true freshman.  The fact we've been in them to compete has been a miracle (No I am not happy we aren't pulling them out or winning.)  The young and transfer talent they have brought in is encouraging to me personally.  Should we play better, should we be making more plays, ABSOLUTELY.   However, coach can't catch the ball for guys, coach can't catch wide open TD's for guys.  Coach can't magically make a walk on WR/ ST guy into a bonafide D1 RB.  Our scholarship RB's have been banged up like crazy and we have relied on a walk on, and 2 True Freshman RB.   I think we go to Temple, play very well and get into a bowl game and then its on.  

 

Coach lost our most productive OL in pregame to a freak injury...... PREGAME.  Sometimes the ball doesn't bounce your way.  Is he perfect? no, but to call for the staff and his job is silly in year 2.  The guy did a total rebuild last year and had us IN games with a completely rebuilt roster.  He needs to make the right DC hire in the offseason.  My pick is La Tech current DC.  We will see what happens.

You make valid points, but most on this site lack logic and reason. They’ll just say they’re better fans for expecting more and that you’re part of the problem. 

 

[UNTcrazy727]

15 hours ago, NTSU52 said:

Geeze yall are so f’ing negative all damn time

I swear most people here are happier when UNT loses just so they can bitch and moan and tear people down. 

[emmitt01]

45 minutes ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

I swear most people here are happier when UNT loses just so they can bitch and moan and tear people down. 

No, most people are happier when the product they support with time, energy, and (most importantly) money has some ROI. 
 

Tell ya what, name for me another thing you’d invest those three things in with no expectation of a pay off prior to year three…especially when those year three expectations are based on the biggest of “maybes”

Edited 18 hours ago by emmitt01

[3_n_out]

Some fans claim lack of logic keeping EM when they also wanted SL gone. To me, we essentially extended SL to 5 more years by way of EM. Tell me I’m wrong. 

[NT80]

8 hours ago, Side.Show.Joe said:

I whole-heartedly disagree. We are not a mob. We are the fan base, and the only ones that actually give a crap. That's why we are demanding more than the sh!t show that is currently being feed to us. I refuse to marginalize the frustration of our fans. And if our AD can't or won't fund a Morris buyout, then he needs to be replaced too. Our stadium is usually half full on game day, when we have around 400,000 alums within an hour of campus. It is time we get someone that can build a real program in Denton, not make excuses for why we should continue to accept failing in football. 

Seriously?  The AD doesn't care about verbal fan demands...unless you have a check with lots of $$$ on it to give??

Every fan of every team that is below .500 is also demanding their coach and AD be fired.  It's a yearly tradition.  One we have participated in far too often.  

Anyway....the point is (most) everyone on this board is a fan, and nobody is happy about losing.  The first reaction in  losing is fire the coach.   You already know it won't happen until money is not an issue.   Why didn't we fire the DC on a 2-year contract after his first season?   $$ 

 

[NT80]

8 hours ago, Green with Envy said:

Aren’t all of the assistants on year-to-year contracts? 
 

Morris has a buyout somewhere around $2M.   Why do we need $5-10M to make a change?

To hire a Coach that isn't such a risk takes $$. 

Otherwise you:

-hire a fired former Head Coach and take a chance (McCarney),

-hire a hot shot Coordinator at a P4 and hope he knows how to become a HC (Seth),

-or hire a HC from a lower division and hope he can translate his style to FBS level (Morris)

[Green with Envy]

9 hours ago, NT80 said:

To hire a Coach that isn't such a risk takes $$. 

 

So you are advocating for a 400% pay increase for the next HC so we can [hopefully] get out of this mess?    
 

If we had that kind of money, I’m rolling with Morris and putting $3.7M towards the OL/DL, easy.  
 

Edited 3 hours ago by Green with Envy

[Hunter Green]

If Morris stays another year, then I hope we beat Temple and go to the Frisco Bowl. Not was I was hoping for earlier in the year, but any bowl will help with recruiting IMHO.

[GMG24]

15 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

No, most people are happier when the product they support with time, energy, and (most importantly) money has some ROI. 
 

Tell ya what, name for me another thing you’d invest those three things in with no expectation of a pay off prior to year three…especially when those year three expectations are based on the biggest of “maybes”

I totally understand the frustration ( no one is as frustrated as the next true UNT alumni/Fan.)  The roster has been rebuilt, the reality is you don't win a lot of games when relying on Freshman - Sophomores to be the main contributors.  The jump from HS to College is vast and takes time to adjust to typically.  I would say if we are experiencing the same issues in year 3 then its time to hit the panic button.  We have shown to have the capability to play with the top of the top in our league.  Yes we crapped the bed at some point, yes it absolutely needs to get fixed.  If you fire Morris now, you're going to be dealing with the same stuff next 2 maybe 3 years as a roster gets totally rebuilt.  The portal will decimate a roster in HC Turmoil.  I believe some of the hoarding that the big boys do of the good OL/DL will slow when they limit roster sizes FWIW so guys we're losing out on may be forced to fall to us due to numbers.

[3_n_out]

10 hours ago, NT80 said:

To hire a Coach that isn't such a risk takes $$. 

Otherwise you:

-hire a fired former Head Coach and take a chance (McCarney),

-hire a hot shot Coordinator at a P4 and hope he knows how to become a HC (Seth),

-or hire a HC from a lower division and hope he can translate his style to FBS level (Morris)

The small time thinking has gotten us to where we are. They need to fully invest in the football program and not be “all in” jerry jones style