I hope we lose to Temple

Hunter Green · November 24

2 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

I don’t want this team going to a bowl game that they will get blown out in. I don’t want to hear all off-season about how Eric Morris got us to a bowl game and how somehow that puts lipstick on this horrible horrible atrocity. And I certainly don’t want anybody talking about how we were so close in a lot of games and he’s gonna get it turned around. This man doesn’t have a douchebaging clue and it shows.

Couldn't agree more. Morris doesn't deserve a bowl game. Stay home and watch others who know what they're doing and how to win.

3_n_out · November 24

13 minutes ago, Hunter Green said:

Couldn't agree more. Morris doesn't deserve a bowl game. Stay home and watch others who know what they're doing and how to win.

And learn to scheme up new plays. Remove all those WR screens that take up half the playbook.

BigWillie · November 24

26 minutes ago, TripleGrad said:

And we're the passionate fans. The casuals have already checked out, probably permanently.

I know this was probably because of Thanksgiving break, but looking at the stadium, you could see this big time.

11 minutes ago, 3_n_out said:

And learn to scheme up new plays. Remove all those WR screens that take up half the playbook.

The screen play has its place, we use it WAAAY too much. I know it is part of Air Raid, but it only works consistently against slow, bad defenses.

3_n_out · November 24

5 minutes ago, BigWillie said:

I know this was probably because of Thanksgiving break, but looking at the stadium, you could see this big time.

The screen play has its place, we use it WAAAY too much. I know it is part of Air Raid, but it only works consistently against slow, bad defenses.

When will we play ourselves on the schedule?

BigWillie · November 24

Just now, 3_n_out said:

When will we play ourselves on the schedule?

I almost said something about that. Hahaha

Matt from A700 · November 24

I understand the sentiment but I still hope to win next week and make a bowl game. Morris will still be here next year regardless.

BigWillie · November 24

3 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

I don’t want this team going to a bowl game that they will get blown out in. I don’t want to hear all off-season about how Eric Morris got us to a bowl game and how somehow that puts lipstick on this horrible horrible atrocity. And I certainly don’t want anybody talking about how we were so close in a lot of games and he’s gonna get it turned around. This man doesn’t have a douchebaging clue and it shows.

This is exactly where I was with Littrell before he got canned. At this point, it is maddening that we make a change and stay the same. We just burn through money year after year for the same results.

I don't know what the answer is, but I know this isn't it. I agree, we should not give NT unproven coaches anything over 3 years. I would even say in today's NIL and transfer portal, you could even go 2 years.

Salsa_Verde · November 24

7 minutes ago, Matt from A700 said:

I understand the sentiment but I still hope to win next week and make a bowl game. Morris will still be here next year regardless.

Yup.

Aquila_Viridis · November 24

Winning against Temple should have no bearing on the actions that need to be taken. So, as always, I hope NT wins. We’ve already cratered so far that if embarrassed in a lowly bowl, that would receive no more general interest and derision than our current woe.

UNTLifer · November 24

1 hour ago, Marty said:

I'm usually for "more football" but not after tonight. Lose out and be done with the season.

Sadly, I feel the same way.

greenminer · November 24

4 hours ago, 3_n_out said:

And learn to scheme up new plays. Remove all those WR screens that take up half the playbook.

You mean the playbook that famously can be drawn out on a napkin?

NTSU52 · November 24

22 hours ago, TripleGrad said:

And we're the passionate fans. The casuals have already checked out, probably permanently.

Geeze yall are so f’ing negative all the damn time

Edited November 25 by NTSU52

meangreenfaninno · November 24

5 hours ago, NTSU52 said:

Geeze yall are so f’ing negative all damn time

Yeah your right we should be absolutely giddy over Eric’s performance.

Edited November 24 by meangreenfaninno

Green P1 · November 24

11 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

When you come across a horse with two severely broken legs, what do you do?

Give it a scholarship to play DB at North Texas?

3_n_out · November 24

7 hours ago, greenminer said:

You mean the playbook that famously can be drawn out on a napkin?

The same napkin he wipes his ass with.

The air raid had its time…in the 90s - 2000s. It’s like the Cowboys running the McCarthy offense that was successful 20+ years ago and we magically think it’ll work when WE run it. There’s no creativity in EMs play calling, and he doesn’t have a good sense of what plays to run at what point.

Big Z · November 24

7 minutes ago, 3_n_out said:

The same napkin he wipes his ass with.

The air raid had its time…in the 90s - 2000s. It’s like the Cowboys running the McCarthy offense that was successful 20+ years ago and we magically think it’ll work when WE run it. There’s no creativity in EMs play calling, and he doesn’t have a good sense of what plays to run at what point.

Bingo

FirefightnRick · November 24

13 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

You miss the point then. Hoping to keep this team, with THIS coach, out of a bowl game is 1000% rooting for UNT.

When you come across a horse with two severely broken legs, what do you do?

Remember how much we hated La Tech in the 90’s and ‘2000’s? How we mocked them for stupidly going from an Independent in the 90’s to wasting the mega bucks on travel in the WAC in the 2000’s, and their obnoxious fans coming here talking trash?

Then 2012 happened……

https://coachad.com/news/did-louisiana-tech-really-turn-down-a-bowl-game/

They had elevated their program to the point that when they lost the last two conference games of the ‘12 season finishing 9-3, and ending as the nation’s #1 offense, they were so damn upset over it they chose, either directly or indirectly to not play ULM in the Independence Bowl.

That announcement was the day I practically fell in love with their school and their program because to me it was the greatest stance on principle and accountability and a standard they felt they had set for themselves and held to.

Since then, we’ve been there several times, you and me, and have seen how poor their athletics were funded all those years, which gained even more respect from this college athletics fan.

That’s where I am as a fan and alumn of NT right now. Wishing we would set a standard, a high standard and stick with it.

Rick

NT80 · November 24

19 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

I don’t want this team going to a bowl game that they will get blown out in. I don’t want to hear all off-season about how Eric Morris got us to a bowl game and how somehow that puts lipstick on this horrible horrible atrocity. And I certainly don’t want anybody talking about how we were so close in a lot of games and he’s gonna get it turned around. This man doesn’t have a douchebaging clue and it shows.

Unless any of you have $5-10M to donate right now to Athletics for EM's buyout and New coach salaries then you're just a Mob howling in the wind.

It's not happening; we can't afford it.

We've been on this road before with Seth, Benford, etc...

Side.Show.Joe · November 24

16 hours ago, Salsa_Verde said:

Yup.

Why does Morris still have to be here next season?

FAU was able to fire Herman in year two. Tulsa fired Wilson in Year two. Charlotte fired Poggi in year two. All three were hired the same year as Morris. Why can't Mosley fire Morris in year two? If three of our peers in the AAC can fire coaches in year 2, why can't North Texas?

Side.Show.Joe · November 24

33 minutes ago, NT80 said:

Unless any of you have $5-10M to donate right now to Athletics for EM's buyout and New coach salaries then you're just a Mob howling in the wind.

It's not happening; we can't afford it.

We've been on this road before with Seth, Benford, etc...

I whole-heartedly disagree. We are not a mob. We are the fan base, and the only ones that actually give a crap. That's why we are demanding more than the sh!t show that is currently being feed to us. I refuse to marginalize the frustration of our fans. And if our AD can't or won't fund a Morris buyout, then he needs to be replaced too. Our stadium is usually half full on game day, when we have around 400,000 alums within an hour of campus. It is time we get someone that can build a real program in Denton, not make excuses for why we should continue to accept failing in football.

Green with Envy · November 24

1 hour ago, NT80 said:

Unless any of you have $5-10M to donate right now to Athletics for EM's buyout and New coach salaries then you're just a Mob howling in the wind.

It's not happening; we can't afford it.

Aren’t all of the assistants on year-to-year contracts?

Morris has a buyout somewhere around $2M. Why do we need $5-10M to make a change?

UNTcrazy727 · November 24

This fanbase is such a joke. After the mass player exodus, basically everyone on this site predicted 5-7 wins and despite being on track to finish on that mark, many fans are screaming to fire everyone. And to seriously be rooting for this team to lose against Temple and miss a bowl is 100% loser garbage. GTFO with that crap.

We’re all disappointed with the lack of progress this year but to want to pull the plug and go through another mass exodus with another new coaching staff with zero time to recruit is all but guaranteeing another frustrating season. You have to give Morris another year to get a new defensive staff in place to fix the defense.

The schedule is favorable next year and our best chance at success is with Morris. If he can’t win in year 3 with a favorable schedule, then sure, call for his firing. But to do it now would be dumb AF.

Glory to the Green · November 24

There is no part of me that wants our guys to lose…ever. GMG!

GMG24 · November 24

Not sure everyone is understanding of college football landscape. Miami paid a transfer DL $250,000 AND THE DUDE DOESN'T PLAY, He is a back up (insurance policy if you will.) I totally understand on not wanting to throw money at players but the reality is if you can pay, kids will join. If not, you're relying on finding kids who don't care about money (GOOD LUCK) and just want to compete and win football games.

On our current roster 4 players from Littrell era contributed to wins this season. Jordan Brown, Damon Ward, Jett Duncan, and Rod Brown. We played 10 games with a very sub par DC. We did not pursue the portal near hard enough to help fill holes in the defensive scheme. IMO at our level we should be a 4 down front with the ability to hop in and out of 3 down when needed in favorable down and distances. 46 players on the current roster are Jr or Sr.

The vast majority of this roster are So, RS Fr, and the biggest group being true Freshman. You don't win a bunch of games at any level with a bunch of true freshman. The fact we've been in them to compete has been a miracle (No I am not happy we aren't pulling them out or winning.) The young and transfer talent they have brought in is encouraging to me personally. Should we play better, should we be making more plays, ABSOLUTELY. However, coach can't catch the ball for guys, coach can't catch wide open TD's for guys. Coach can't magically make a walk on WR/ ST guy into a bonafide D1 RB. Our scholarship RB's have been banged up like crazy and we have relied on a walk on, and 2 True Freshman RB. I think we go to Temple, play very well and get into a bowl game and then its on.

Coach lost our most productive OL in pregame to a freak injury...... PREGAME. Sometimes the ball doesn't bounce your way. Is he perfect? no, but to call for the staff and his job is silly in year 2. The guy did a total rebuild last year and had us IN games with a completely rebuilt roster. He needs to make the right DC hire in the offseason. My pick is La Tech current DC. We will see what happens.

Edited November 24 by GMG24

Side.Show.Joe · November 24

1 hour ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

This fanbase is such a joke. After the mass player exodus, basically everyone on this site predicted 5-7 wins and despite being on track to finish on that mark, many fans are screaming to fire everyone. And to seriously be rooting for this team to lose against Temple and miss a bowl is 100% loser garbage. GTFO with that crap.

We’re all disappointed with the lack of progress this year but to want to pull the plug and go through another mass exodus with another new coaching staff with zero time to recruit is all but guaranteeing another frustrating season. You have to give Morris another year to get a new defensive staff in place to fix the defense.

The schedule is favorable next year and our best chance at success is with Morris. If he can’t win in year 3 with a favorable schedule, then sure, call for his firing. But to do it now would be dumb AF.

I'm not rooting for Temple next Saturday. I'll never cheer for UNT to lose. But, even if UNT beats Temple by 100 points, Morris still needs to be fired. This season started 5-1. There is no excuse for dropping 5 straight games. Just like there is no excuse for blowing 21 point lead to an interim head coach... at home no less.

The portal changes everything. That's why other AAC programs are able to fire their coaches in their 2nd seasons at their schools.

Morris has already had two season to fix the defense. He hasn't been able to fix it. I can't think of any reason why he might magically figure it out this off season.

These are Morris' FBS wins this season...

USA 6-5 (bowl team)

Wyoming 2-9

Tulsa 3-8 (Fired their 2nd year coach)

FAU 2-9 (Fired their 2nd year coach)

Morris has built a team that for the most part, only beats bums. We saw this movie before with Littrell. I'm done with this crap. It's time to rebuild.

Edited November 24 by Side.Show.Joe